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Visiting Vatican City? Take Care!
news-fire.com ^ | Aug 9 2010 | Marian Buchant

Posted on 08/09/2010 7:54:12 PM PDT by NoLibZone

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1 posted on 08/09/2010 7:54:15 PM PDT by NoLibZone
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They enforce their borders and laws buy removing violators from their nation.

While being strictly against us enforcing ours by using the same tactics.


2 posted on 08/09/2010 7:56:33 PM PDT by NoLibZone (If we could remove bad representatives through voting, voting would have been made illegal by now.)
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side comment. If you're going to Rome, sign up for the scavi tour as soon as you know you're going.

http://saintpetersbasilica.org/Necropolis/Scavi.htm

3 posted on 08/09/2010 7:57:01 PM PDT by whence911 (Here illegally? Go home. Get in line!)
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They enforce their borders and laws by removing violators from their nation.

While being strictly against us enforcing ours, if we try to use the same tactics.


4 posted on 08/09/2010 7:58:21 PM PDT by NoLibZone (If we could remove bad representatives through voting, voting would have been made illegal by now.)
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The Vatican IS NOT a single, Bishop from Los Angeles!

Are you interested in honest debate, or just out to push your own personal Anti-Catholic venom?


5 posted on 08/09/2010 7:59:46 PM PDT by J Edgar
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6 posted on 08/09/2010 8:00:18 PM PDT by JoeProBono (A closed mouth gathers no feet - Visualize)
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Canon Mary Glasspool (left), and Canon Diane Bruce, bishops-elect with the Bishop of Los Angeles, the Rt Revd Jon Bruno, at the Los Angeles diocesan con­vention last week


7 posted on 08/09/2010 8:03:13 PM PDT by JoeProBono (A closed mouth gathers no feet - Visualize)
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It’s not just one bishop. The official policy, not just of the Catholic Church but that of most Christian sects, seems to be that Western nations have an obligation toward all less fortunate people. The “thinking” is that we must follow Christ’s compassionate example: Feed the hungry, heal the sick, clothe the naked. They never remember that Jesus never said we must steal from those that have and give it to those who don’t. Of course He also said that it was harder for a camel to pass through the eye of a needle than for a rich man to enter heaven. So maybe the socialist Christian do-gooders have the rich man’s best interests at heart—By stealing their money and giving it to the poor, they’re just trying to help the rich get into heaven.


8 posted on 08/09/2010 8:16:16 PM PDT by giotto
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GOOD!


9 posted on 08/09/2010 8:16:24 PM PDT by pnh102 (Regarding liberalism, always attribute to malice what you think can be explained by stupidity. - Me)
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The Vatican IS NOT a single, Bishop from Los Angeles! Are you interested in honest debate, or just out to push your own personal Anti-Catholic venom?

The venom came from you - curb your tongue. And as for "honest debate," where is your honesty in labelling the president of the US Conference of Catholic Bishops a "single, Bishop from Los Angeles?"

You slap rudely and misrepresent the status and seriousness of what is going on, and then claim some sort of moral high ground? And through implication, you split the Vatican away from all of it with zero authority. You are way out of line here.

IN FACT, millions of people, Catholic and non-Catholic, are awaiting a Vatician statement on the position this president of the US Conference of Catholic Bishops has taken.

Also IN FACT, the Vatican is EXACTLY where the focus should be in this matter.

Arguing for a Protestant-style independence of interpretation is repulsively hypocritical.

10 posted on 08/09/2010 8:23:06 PM PDT by Talisker (When you find a turtle on top of a fence post, you can be damn sure it didn't get there on it's own.)
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I sincerely doubt that those pictured and named are Catholics in good standing. If they are, the my conjecture that Cardinal Mahoney is a Commie plant gains more credence in my view.
11 posted on 08/09/2010 8:24:38 PM PDT by J Edgar
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I do not believe that valid Catholic doctrine dictates that the people of one country are OBLIGED to take care of people from another country.
The more fortunate have an obligation to look after the less fortunate, As An Expression of their love for God and all of His children.

This is entirely different from denying that a nation cannot have borders.


12 posted on 08/09/2010 8:30:18 PM PDT by J Edgar
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“The Vatican IS NOT a single, Bishop from Los Angeles! Are you interested in honest debate, or just out to push your own personal Anti-Catholic venom?
The venom came from you - curb your tongue. And as for “honest debate,” where is your honesty in labelling the president of the US Conference of Catholic Bishops a “single, Bishop from Los Angeles?”
You slap rudely and misrepresent the status and seriousness of what is going on, and then claim some sort of moral high ground? And through implication, you split the Vatican away from all of it with zero authority. You are way out of line here.
IN FACT, millions of people, Catholic and non-Catholic, are awaiting a Vatician statement on the position this president of the US Conference of Catholic Bishops has taken.
Also IN FACT, the Vatican is EXACTLY where the focus should be in this matter.
Arguing for a Protestant-style independence of interpretation is repulsively hypocritical.”


I sincerely believe you are the one out of line! If the US Conference of Catholic Bishops declared that war was immoral, that would not make it so!

I do not believe that valid Catholic doctrine dictates that the people of one country are OBLIGED to take care of people from another country.
The more fortunate have an obligation to look after the less fortunate, As An Expression of their love for God and all of His children.

This is entirely different from denying that a nation cannot have borders.


13 posted on 08/09/2010 8:36:35 PM PDT by J Edgar
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This is not a new dress code. As it always did, it simply relies on respect, common sense and taste, all of which seem in short supply these days.


14 posted on 08/09/2010 8:41:57 PM PDT by Rembrandt (.. AND the donkey you rode in on.)
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15 posted on 08/09/2010 8:43:56 PM PDT by JoeProBono (A closed mouth gathers no feet - Visualize)
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Bishop Bruno is a Bishop in the Episcopal Church.


16 posted on 08/09/2010 8:53:39 PM PDT by lastchance (Hug your babies.)
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Sorry. Hard to tell one “Bishop” from another.


17 posted on 08/09/2010 9:01:30 PM PDT by JoeProBono (A closed mouth gathers no feet - Visualize)
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Short sleeves seem to be permissible for the guys, but not muscle shirts. In a twist, men must wear full length trousers, but the women can get away with knee length cut offs.


18 posted on 08/09/2010 9:15:13 PM PDT by HiTech RedNeck (I am in America but not of America (per bible: am in the world but not of it))
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The methodology of the USCCB, insisting to hijack the entire American government system which represents Protestants, Jews, Buddhists, and atheists as well as Catholics, to bring the Mexicans over to America rather than insisting their welfare while they live in Mexico, is quite biased and short sighted if not just plain immoral. IIRC there is an item in the “official” catechism condemning such an approach.


19 posted on 08/09/2010 9:20:35 PM PDT by HiTech RedNeck (I am in America but not of America (per bible: am in the world but not of it))
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rather than insisting their welfare => rather than encouraging private assistance to their welfare


20 posted on 08/09/2010 9:22:05 PM PDT by HiTech RedNeck (I am in America but not of America (per bible: am in the world but not of it))
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