Posted on 08/16/2010 12:13:31 PM PDT by nickcarraway
Why would anyone want to pursue a degree in a career which is likely to be offshored?
This is a total and complete lie. Looks like Pravda news. Ever call customer service for American airlines? All Indian all the Indian time. In the Information Technology biz, all Indian and ‘No American need apply’.
We all know what the US Chamber POT is full of!
In a way it’s true. The real damage and the majority of the lost jobs are not due to the H-1Bs that come over and do work here but by the tens of thousands who sit in Mumbai or Chennai and do all the work we send to them over there.
“The best policy” would be to train our kids in colleges around the country instead of making liberals out of them and teaching them to rely on the government.
We have been training American kids. Go to any Tech school, community college, or university....and see all the classes and courses for computers...programming, IT, software design
Americans are much better trained than Indians....India gets lauded for its training, but it is still a Turd World country that is behind the US in so much high tech. Not only the Indians are not as well trained, they lack mucg of the western mores and work ethic
True enough, but that’s kind of a chicken-or-egg problem. Are students avoiding technical disciplines because there’s no jobs, or are there no jobs because they’re avoiding the technical disciplines? I think you’ve got a point, though...CS is hard (I went for the business side of things instead of CS) and the starter pay’s not great unless you get lucky and catch a bubble in the market.
I’m torn whether I’d want my daughter to follow me into IT or not. Who knows what things’ll look like in 15-20 years when she’s going out into the workforce? It’s been good to me, and I like the work—first programming, then a shift to testing several years ago, and now largely in management and being the happy Anglo face that deals with the client while the folks 9000 miles away do the real job. I just wonder if there’s going to be any place in technology for an entry-level American graduate in the 2020s.
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The short-sighted greed (as opposed to old-fashioned long-term investment mentality) of modern American (pseudo-)capitalists is why leftist politicians have enough of a constituency to stay in power. The welfare class (even augmented by vote fraud) just isn't enough -- but add in all the middle-class workers who are treading water while sinking a bit lower every year because of this crap....
Impose tariffs on H1-B visas. They are a form of foreign trade, and should be subject to tariffs like any other type of imported product or service.
You have a good idea....outsourcing should be tariffed. The present system is not based on any free market theory...since we have plenty of Americans who are out of work and can do the jobs.
Tariffs were the way the US collected revenue...until the Globalists pushed for the income tax at the turn of the 20thC.
From what I experienced in the high tech industry is that people from India work cheaper. They also will cut your throat if they can get your job. Don’t ever trust them on the job.
My point was that it is very easy to become very independent, and many are already doing it without the blessing of licensing/authorizing “authorities.”
Bankers and Corporate CEO’s wonder why Americans hate their guts. They haven’t got a clue. Well when they and their families are lined up in front of a revolutionary firing squad, maybe they will get it.
I believe they are getting their due now. All the Americans they fired cannot purchase their products...and the less-talented, less-paid Third Worlders cannot afford their products. The snake is beginning to swallow itself
The problem was compounded by managers who insisted on using the most wasteful and labor-intensive techniques available so they could justify trying to increase their head-count. This was because managers at different levels were paid according to the head-count under them instead of how much product they put out.
Catch-22. Nobody wants to work that hard in college to get a Comp Sci or Engineering degree just to compete with cheap H-1B's upon graduation. Do you think people are stupid? Get rid of H1-B's wages will go up more grads follow, it's not that hard people.
What about outsourcing development overseas?
Also, before businesses had a stake in the quality of education in this country. But now, who cares, they can take advantage of workers outside of the country, so now, they don’t care about education in this country.
Well if a company does that then they should lose all tax breaks instead of the incentives they are given now. Some Benedict Arnold free traitors look at this country as an economic zone, I prefer to look at it as a free country which values it's citizens. Our citizens can compete with any other country, try this H1B crap in Europe, there would be riots.
onshoring is the process through which they get their experience, then go home to become outsource destinations.
the only saving grace, currently, is that those projects need solid senior people to manage and run them. few senior people are willing to leave their lives in America to live in third world countries so the corporation can save a few dollars and mitigate the risk to their shareholders.
this will change as today’s H1-b junior-mid levels move into more senior roles (which has been happening for the last few years)
btw, there is hardcore racism in hiring practices within the industry. good luck finding anyone that cares.
the racism label has less to do with making all people equal and more with wresting control away from white 1950’s America. otherwise, any form of racism would not be tolerated.
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