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Some Maryland stores selling banned dish detergent
abc2news.com ^ | 20 Aug 2010 | Joce Sterman

Posted on 08/22/2010 10:34:20 PM PDT by smokingfrog

Baltimore - A ban that's designed to protect the Chesapeake Bay from a dangerous pollutant went into effect more than a month ago and you may not even noticed. That ban impacts the detergent we all use in our dishwashers. ABC2 News Investigator Joce Sterman explains what's been cut out of the cleaning product and where we found banned items out for sale.

She's got kids, a career and still has to make time to do those households chores. It's obvious Lutherville’s Jenny Atwater is a busy mom with plenty on her plate. She says, “I hate unloading the dishwasher and I really hate unloading the dishwasher and seeing the dishes seem not very clean."

But Atwater has noticed that’s been happening a lot lately. She tells us, "I do notice there tends to be more stuff left with this detergent, just stuff that normally would have been washed away probably."

The dish detergent she's talking about is phosphate free. Jenny made the switch a few months, and chances are so did you, although you probably didn’t even notice. Jenn Aiosa with the Chesapeake Bay Foundation says, "The average consumer doesn't know."

Marylanders may not be aware that automatic dishwasher detergents with phosphorus are now banned in this state and more than a dozen others. The ban is thanks to a law put in place to help get rid of one of the biggest pollutants in the Chesapeake Bay. Aiosa explains, "It's really something that's relatively easy in the grand scheme of things for consumers to do but can have an impact."

The impact is something you should already be seeing on store shelves, but it took awhile to put this plan in place. Dennis Griesing with the American Cleaning Institute says, "It was a significant undertaking."

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TOPICS: Government; News/Current Events; US: Maryland
KEYWORDS: dishwasher; environment; phosphates; soap
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To: Peet

Stoopid me, replying to my own post ‘cause I forgot: You get the “Commercial Use” bulbs at the distributors - 130-volt so use a 100W where you would usually use a 75W, but the laaaassst! I have bulbs installed 9 years ago still in service...


41 posted on 08/23/2010 4:55:53 AM PDT by Peet (<- A.K.A. the Foundling)
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To: MHGinTN
So do I need to now make a run on Sam's Club to stockpile the dish detergent with the phosphates in it.

Just go to your local Ace Hardware store and buy a box of "TSP." Trisodium Phosphate. Add a bit to your load and all will be fine.

42 posted on 08/23/2010 4:57:05 AM PDT by IamConservative (Two wrongs don't make a right, but you might get even.)
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To: smokingfrog

We have a Maytag and it is a superior machine. It cleans dishes with out precleaning and is of excellent construction with out the minor failings of other machines that died.


43 posted on 08/23/2010 4:57:39 AM PDT by bert (K.E. N.P. N.C. +12 ..... Greetings Jacques. The revolution is coming)
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To: Venturer
I live on the Potomac and am afraid

I was stationed in southeast D.C. in the early and mid 60s, our flight line was next to the Potomac. The shore line there was always littered with condoms and dead domestic animals - not that much different than the rest of D.C.

44 posted on 08/23/2010 4:59:38 AM PDT by Graybeard58 (Nobody reads tag lines.)
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To: Gorzaloon

TSP is great stuff. We used to use it, under pressure with water, for cleaning tractors, it cut right through any kind of grease and grime.


45 posted on 08/23/2010 5:02:36 AM PDT by Graybeard58 (Nobody reads tag lines.)
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To: w1andsodidwe
“Has anything we have ever done to fix perceived pollution ever done any good? I have yet to see an article that does anything but tell me I must sacrifice even more.”

Yes, a great deal of good. Lead contamination, chemical, crap in the air land and water are all manifestly better.

This is mainly because our world had become so polluted between 1845 and 1970 that the average person was very much on board with cleaning up our planet.

But the wackos who people the green movement don't do what they do out of concern for the environment. They want power over people's lives and so they scream that the sky is falling all the louder. Ever wonder where the ‘parts per million’ number that used to accompany most stories on the latest threat to human life and habitation went? They have become embarrassingly low so they are avoided. The wackos (or 'Evil ones' take your pick)have even taken to making up threats out of whole cloth to add to the considerable power they have accumulated to themselves since the first 'earth day'. Evil doesn't have a day job.

46 posted on 08/23/2010 5:07:48 AM PDT by TalBlack
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To: smokingfrog

No, you will have to wash your dishes before putting them in the dishwasher, that’s all........................


47 posted on 08/23/2010 5:32:45 AM PDT by Red Badger (No, Obama's not the Antichrist. But he does have him in his MY FAVES.............)
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To: Venturer

“I live on the Potomac and am afraid to let my Grandchildren get in the river.”

I hear you. Know an old guy who fell off his pier into the Magothy. In the process, he cut his leg. Within days he had to have his leg removed. Scary $hit.


48 posted on 08/23/2010 5:34:31 AM PDT by Holen1
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To: w1andsodidwe

The enviro nutcases made us get rid of Freon in our air conditioners 20+ years ago, to “fix” the Ozone Hole.

The Freon is gone. The Ozone Hole is still here................


49 posted on 08/23/2010 5:34:55 AM PDT by Red Badger (No, Obama's not the Antichrist. But he does have him in his MY FAVES.............)
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To: MHGinTN

There’s plenty for sale in the stores down here.....maybe I just found a new line of work.
Place your orders,


50 posted on 08/23/2010 5:36:16 AM PDT by LFOD (Presently - Back in Dixie)
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To: IamConservative
Thanks for the advice. Going to buy some Afresh today.

I have almost always used the HE detergent, and have used the amount recommended on the HE bottles. I will try cutting back on the amount as well.

I like being able to wash large things like comforters, etc., but in general, I really dislike the machine.

51 posted on 08/23/2010 5:42:44 AM PDT by Tuscaloosa Goldfinch ( T.G., global warming denier.)
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To: Tuscaloosa Goldfinch
I like being able to wash large things like comforters, etc., but in general, I really dislike the machine.

I have to agree, we like a top loader better overall. We came about the tips on soap usage the hard way. Took us a long time to get it to where it didn't smell. The only thing we really like about the front loader is that it allowed us to put a counter top in over the washer and dryer. Very convenient having a folding table right above the dryer.

52 posted on 08/23/2010 5:46:34 AM PDT by IamConservative (Two wrongs don't make a right, but you might get even.)
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To: Right Wing Assault

Mine is one of the first Kenmore machines, and from what I’ve read on line, there is a design flaw in them which doesn’t allow the machine to drain completely. And you can’t wipe down what you can’t reach, i.e., the outside surface of the drum.


53 posted on 08/23/2010 5:46:34 AM PDT by Tuscaloosa Goldfinch ( T.G., global warming denier.)
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To: skr

I know - it’s made me use extra chlorine bleach, and rewash stuff - either that or run around in stinky clothes. My husband has threatened to put an old washer in the garage and wash his own work clothes because he works outside all day long and in this heat.... :-O


54 posted on 08/23/2010 5:50:52 AM PDT by Tuscaloosa Goldfinch ( T.G., global warming denier.)
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To: Global2010
make home soap

SSSS I didn't realize the fourth S stands for soap.

55 posted on 08/23/2010 5:51:31 AM PDT by palmer (Cooperating with Obama = helping him extend the depression and implement socialism.)
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To: Tuscaloosa Goldfinch

My daughter used our new HE machine during a windstorm, and the power went out in the middle of her load. It was out for 9 days, and we couldn’t get the clothes out of the machine because the door locked. Talk about a nasty odor! Yuck!


56 posted on 08/23/2010 5:56:14 AM PDT by Dizzy Lizzy
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To: skr
I just looked up HE washing machines and dishwashers. Apparently both need extra cleaning or unwelcome odors occur. We’ve never had to clean the inside of our old dishwasher. Using the hot cycle probably has something to do with it. So much for saving the environment when one has to use water just to clean an empty dishwasher, not to mention re-washing dishes.

Reminds me of low flow toilets. Flush twice to get the job done; just in case keep a heavy duty plunger on hand.
57 posted on 08/23/2010 6:02:55 AM PDT by algernonpj (He who pays the piper . . .)
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To: smokingfrog

My stainless steel Whirlpool appliances are rusting! Where do they get their “stainless” steel? Sri Lanka?


58 posted on 08/23/2010 6:03:01 AM PDT by Dr. Bogus Pachysandra ( Ya can't pick up a turd by the clean end!)
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To: Tuscaloosa Goldfinch

Leave the door and even the detergent door open a little. I found mine will start to smell if I close them when it is still wet inside.
I think that is the problem with most HE washers. They are sealed up so tight when the door is closed, they don’t let any air flow.


59 posted on 08/23/2010 6:08:39 AM PDT by kara37
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To: Red Badger
The enviro nutcases made us get rid of Freon in our air conditioners 20+ years ago, to “fix” the Ozone Hole. The Freon is gone. The Ozone Hole is still here.........

They also were behind the removal of asthma inhalers that actually worked.
60 posted on 08/23/2010 6:19:24 AM PDT by algernonpj (He who pays the piper . . .)
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