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Vast number of military bands may not be music to Gates's ears
Washington Post, ^ | 8/23/10 | Walter Pincus

Posted on 08/23/2010 9:09:21 PM PDT by Nachum

Defense Secretary Robert M. Gates frequently makes the point that Congress funds Defense Department personnel far more easily than it does State Department employees.

"There are about 6,000 FSOs," or Foreign Service officers, he told an audience in San Francisco this month. He drew laughter when he added that former secretary of state "Condi Rice used to say, 'We have more people in military bands than they have in the Foreign Service.' She was not far wrong."

Well, maybe Gates should take a closer look at those military bands during his campaign to trim defense spending. My interest was triggered by a new field manual for Army bands, released last month, that Steven Aftergood first noted on his Secrecy News Web site.

You may be aware of the Army Band, known as "Pershing's Own" -- based in the Washington area -- which, according to the manual, is authorized to have 250 officers and enlisted men. Then there is the Army's Old Guard Fife and Drum Corps, West Point's Military Academy Band, and the Army Field Band, located at nearby Fort Meade, Md. These are known as the Army's "special bands."

But there are also three large Army bands: the Army Training and Doctrine Command Band, at Fort Monroe, Va.; the Army Ground Forces Band, at Fort McPherson, Ga.; and the U.S. Army Europe Band and Chorus, stationed at Heidelberg, Germany.

(Excerpt) Read more at washingtonpost.com ...


TOPICS: Government; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: bands; bhodod; bhosecdef; gatess; military; music; secdef
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1 posted on 08/23/2010 9:09:27 PM PDT by Nachum
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To: Nachum

Don’t cut the bands. But cut the paygrade. If they’re in a band, nothing over E5.


2 posted on 08/23/2010 9:11:37 PM PDT by Loud Mime (It's the CONSTITUTION! www.initialpoints.net)
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To: Loud Mime
Gates needs to get the F* out of Washington and back to that academic jerkoff-hole in Texas where he came from. Leave the ceremonials and the ritual homages to those who deserve them and appreciate them.
3 posted on 08/23/2010 9:21:14 PM PDT by hinckley buzzard
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To: Nachum

Military bands are essential to parades and many formations. I suspect that cutting military customs and traditions is the hidden goal here, and I fear that we’ll see more of it.


4 posted on 08/23/2010 9:23:01 PM PDT by Seaplaner (Never give in. Never give in. Never...except to convictions of honour and good sense. W. Churchill)
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To: Seaplaner

Exactly.


5 posted on 08/23/2010 9:23:41 PM PDT by Nachum (The complete Obama list at www.nachumlist.com)
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To: hinckley buzzard

Exactly!

At this rate, in 20 years they’ll melt down the Marine Corps Memorial for some idiotic reason.....besides hate for our military and what it stands for.


6 posted on 08/23/2010 9:26:19 PM PDT by unkus
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To: Nachum; Jeremiah Jr; null and void

"Where am I going to find a hundred guys just like that?"

7 posted on 08/23/2010 9:30:14 PM PDT by Ezekiel (The Obama-nation began with the Inauguration of Desolation.)
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To: Nachum

My basic training company formed a band.


8 posted on 08/23/2010 9:38:05 PM PDT by Retired Chemist
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To: Loud Mime

You do that and they will sound like some sicilian funeral
band.


9 posted on 08/23/2010 9:47:54 PM PDT by rahbert
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To: hinckley buzzard

Notice that under Obama and Gates the Defense Department is getting cut while the rest of government grows wildly. Gates says he is saving money which is nonsense. Any money cut by Defense is appropriated to other parts of government to be spent.


10 posted on 08/23/2010 9:49:09 PM PDT by Red Steel
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To: Nachum
Then there is the assignment. Take the Old Guard Fife and Drum Corps, for example. All members over their four-year enlistment period have "a stabilized assignment at Fort Myer, and enjoy full military benefits including medical and dental care, group life insurance coverage, 30 days of annual paid vacation, Post Exchange and Commissary benefits, and educational benefits," according to its Web site.

This gets spun as though it is some kind of special benefit. It is actually a standard part of any military assignment, as long as you dont get kicked out. It's called the dispensary/hospital, SGLI, Leave, PX and Commissary privileges.

I hate the media.

11 posted on 08/23/2010 9:51:18 PM PDT by capydick (''Life's tough.......it's even tougher if you're stupid.'')
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To: Ezekiel

One of my favorite movies.


12 posted on 08/23/2010 9:54:28 PM PDT by Proud2BeRight
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To: Red Steel

What if other government departments, agencies, and instrumentalities, especially entitlements, pursued and received budget cuts as vigorously as those which Defense must endure? Perhaps then, especially with severe cuts to “mandatory spending” entitlements, the Congress might balance the budget with a surplus to spare for repaying the debt, but then only with severe cuts to entitlements and other “mandatory spending.”


13 posted on 08/23/2010 9:55:51 PM PDT by dufekin (Name our lead enemy: Islamic Republic of Iran, Mahmoud Ahmadinejad, Islamofascist terrorist dictator)
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To: rahbert

No, they will sound like any university band.


14 posted on 08/23/2010 9:56:26 PM PDT by Loud Mime (It's the CONSTITUTION! www.initialpoints.net)
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To: Seaplaner
Military bands are essential to parades and many formations. I suspect that cutting military customs and traditions is the hidden goal here, and I fear that we’ll see more of it.

It's an American heritage. Before chief Osceola died, he recalled the Army's band could be heard 25 miles ahead of their combat formation heading towards the Everglades.

15 posted on 08/23/2010 9:59:24 PM PDT by BerryDingle (I know how to deal with communists, I still wear their scars on my back from Hollywood-Ronald Reagan)
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To: Ezekiel

LOL! Good one!


16 posted on 08/23/2010 10:05:06 PM PDT by FlingWingFlyer (DemocRATS! America's Taliban!)
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To: Nachum

I’ve never understood military bands... Honestly, does anyone REALLY pay attention to them?


17 posted on 08/23/2010 10:05:28 PM PDT by KoRn (Department of Homeland Security, Certified - "Right Wing Extremist")
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To: Seaplaner
Military bands are essential to parades and many formations.

While they are nice, they are also an anachronism. Needing bands is like needing bagpipes playing on advance into battle.

18 posted on 08/23/2010 10:23:38 PM PDT by glorgau
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To: glorgau

Perhaps they can keep a few around like the U.S.S. Constitution is still commissioned.

Have to remember that 40% of everything the federal government is doing is on borrowed money.


19 posted on 08/23/2010 10:26:13 PM PDT by glorgau
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To: glorgau

Yea, seems like they could just issue syncronized
I-pods or maybe CD players. Electric bagpipes...


20 posted on 08/23/2010 10:30:08 PM PDT by tet68 ( " We would not die in that man's company, that fears his fellowship to die with us...." Henry V.)
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