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In Michigan, It’s GOP’s Rick Snyder 51, Democrat Virg Bernero 29
National Review ^ | 8-26-2010 | Jim Geraghty

Posted on 08/26/2010 8:53:40 PM PDT by Frantzie

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To: grellis; AdmSmith; Arthur Wildfire! March; Berosus; bigheadfred; blueyon; Convert from ECUSA; ...
Snyder's appeal is especially strong among independent voters, who favor him 50%-15% -- with 35% undecided.
Which means, half the indies didn't want to vote for any more Demwits, but ordinarily wouldn't vote for a Republican -- with 35% of respondents not really independents anyway, or here and there thinking about voting third-party. Thanks Frantzie.
21 posted on 08/27/2010 2:21:41 PM PDT by SunkenCiv (Democratic Underground... matters are worse, as their latest fund drive has come up short...)
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To: Impy

It’s very unusual for union members to cross party lines (not unheard of, but in most of those cases it’s members who are conservative); the independents, or rather, those tired of the whole “hold your nose to vote” candidates on the Demwit side have broken down whatever hold the straight-ticket mentality had on non-union members.

My favorite gubenatorial election was when Gov John Engler ran the second time; he was unopposed, so people had a grand time crossing over to vote for Fiegler. The union voters were rubber-stamping some doctrinaire hardliner who was at least a professional politician, I forget the name. But I remember how the union nimrods (I was surrounded and almost out of ammo) sighed, and then made lockstep for the Fiegler campaign.

He got his ass handed to him. It was embarrassing. And yet, this year he was being asked are-ya-or-aren’t-ya? Fiegler and Mike Cox are arch-enemies, so there were those (mostly in the press) who just wanted to see that matchup. Cox got knocked out of the primary.


22 posted on 08/27/2010 2:59:32 PM PDT by SunkenCiv (Democratic Underground... matters are worse, as their latest fund drive has come up short...)
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To: Screaming_Gerbil; grellis

Don’t know if I can vote for Ricky or not. Might go Libertarian.


23 posted on 08/27/2010 3:05:55 PM PDT by Springman (Rest In Peace YaYa123 and Bahbah.)
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To: Impy

Yeah, if Snyder is the second coming of Milliken or George *, he’ll be less than useless.


24 posted on 08/27/2010 3:18:13 PM PDT by fieldmarshaldj (~"This is what happens when you find a stranger in the Amber Lamps !"~~)
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To: Springman

Why not vote for the Dem?

4 more years might be enough to implode the state - and with Republicans in control of the US House there won’t be any bailouts.

Maybe then we can donate Mich. to Canada.


25 posted on 08/27/2010 3:22:51 PM PDT by nascarnation
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To: SunkenCiv

You’re recalling Engler’s third run in 1998. Geoffrey Fieger’s opponents in the Dem primary were Larry Owen and Doug Ross. Owen was supposed to be the front-runner until Fieger caught fire. Of course, Fieger led a near-total collapse of the party ticket and only carried Wayne County in the general (and that by just 57-43%). Of course, Howard Wolpe in ‘94 scarcely did much better, and only got two counties, Wayne and Genesee (Flint).


26 posted on 08/27/2010 3:29:47 PM PDT by fieldmarshaldj (~"This is what happens when you find a stranger in the Amber Lamps !"~~)
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To: grellis

Here’s another noteworthy poll from Michigan.


27 posted on 08/27/2010 4:24:42 PM PDT by Clintonfatigued (Obama's more worried about Israelis building houses than he is about Islamists building atomic bombs)
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To: cripplecreek
Snyder has little choice but to move right.,

And given the likes of the conservatives that one their primary berth in my district if that is any indication things are looking up, follow me on this.

I spoke with one of them, yes, it looks like a lot of converatives one their berths and will go into the general election.

IMHO if they win Snyder will get a very conservative house and senate. This is just a hunch on my part. So we are in agreement, he will have no choice as they help him make the hard choices from keeping the state from going chapter 11. My CPA wonk tells me the news at the latest CPA confab with a comp-controller type was dire. The state is in serious financial trouble next year.

28 posted on 08/27/2010 4:32:40 PM PDT by taildragger ((Palin / Mulally 2012 ))
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To: fieldmarshaldj

Thanks!


29 posted on 08/27/2010 4:41:02 PM PDT by SunkenCiv (Democratic Underground... matters are worse, as their latest fund drive has come up short...)
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30 posted on 08/28/2010 6:09:41 AM PDT by grellis (I am Jill's overwhelming sense of disgust.)
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To: rintense; All
Does anyone know what kind of R his running mate is?

Conservative? Squishy like Rick?

31 posted on 08/28/2010 6:16:08 AM PDT by Lakeshark (Thank a member of the US armed forces for their sacrifice)
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To: Frantzie

And Verg just picked a black female mayor from Southfield as his running mate. A smart political move that will go no where. Verg has no name recognition. And when he opens his mouth he turns people off.


32 posted on 08/28/2010 6:21:53 AM PDT by 70th Division (I love my country but fear my government!)
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To: quantim
So we end up with a purple governor, better than than Marxist Moleface, pure socialist.

I am imagining that said in Tim Allen's voice like the pure Michigan ads. Was that your intent?

33 posted on 08/28/2010 6:25:33 AM PDT by magslinger (DISCLAIMER: No liberals were harmed in the making of this post. I'm sorry and will try harder.)
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To: Frantzie; cripplecreek; Atom Smasher; Impy; InterceptPoint; RatsDawg; netmilsmom; stayathomemom; ...
Did you ever think you would be seeing Republicans winning Michigan by a rout?

Michigan had traditionally been considered a swing state, at least through most of the 20th century, kind of a microcosm of the nation as a whole. It had about half of its population in Detroit and suburbs, the other half in small cities, towns, and rural. It had heavy industry and agriculture. And it had strong corporations and strong unions.

The problem for Republicans in the last decade and more has been demographic: whites moving out with the tanking economy, immigrants moving in.

But with the economy so horrendous under 'Rat rule, the Pubbies have a golden opportunity now.

34 posted on 08/28/2010 7:30:01 AM PDT by justiceseeker93
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To: softwarecreator

I only count one republican in that list, St John Engler.

The rest were liberal RINOs.


35 posted on 08/28/2010 9:13:11 AM PDT by Beagle8U (Free Republic -- One stop shopping ....... It's the Conservative Super WalMart for news .)
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To: Screaming_Gerbil

Grandmole needs to keep her promise and blow me before she leaves office.


36 posted on 08/28/2010 9:16:25 AM PDT by Beagle8U (Free Republic -- One stop shopping ....... It's the Conservative Super WalMart for news .)
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To: Beagle8U
What, you haven't been "Blown Away?"

Blown Away, 4 Years Later

(*smile*)

How about Jenny just leave office? That would work for me...

37 posted on 08/28/2010 9:32:22 AM PDT by Screaming_Gerbil (...he that hath no sword, let him sell his garment, and buy one... Luke 22:36)
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To: Lakeshark
From what I've heard, Calley is a social conservative and fiscal squish, which is frankly like most republican politicians in this state.
38 posted on 08/29/2010 8:35:08 AM PDT by Darren McCarty (I don't look for leaders. I follow my own path, my way.)
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To: Beagle8U

Milliken was the worst governor in my lifetime, including the boy governor Blanchard and the Canadian trash.


39 posted on 08/29/2010 8:37:10 AM PDT by Darren McCarty (I don't look for leaders. I follow my own path, my way.)
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To: Frantzie
Rick Snyder has two things going for him right now. Virg Bernero won his primary. Many of the conservatives will vote for Snyder because they are scared of Bernero. The other is that a lot of people who don't follow politics like how he's running as "apolitical."

I think things are going to tighten up when Bernero goes after Snyder and tries to paint him as a jobs killer.

40 posted on 08/29/2010 8:39:51 AM PDT by Darren McCarty (I don't look for leaders. I follow my own path, my way.)
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