Posted on 09/01/2010 8:33:44 AM PDT by a fool in paradise
Wafer fab engineer, uppa 50’s few jobs available for nearly 4 years.
We’re still importing H-1Bs though...
or stay in cobol.
If you’re over 40 don’t both applying at google.
...plus the young worker won’t complain about having to come in on weekends or the size of his bonus check.
News flash - it ain’t just in Silicon Valley. Cash is king, and the ‘more mature’ engineer naturally gets more pay. I just ate my second pay cut in three years. At least I still have a job, unlike many.
SillyCon Valley is loaded with libs and they kick people over 45 to the kerb. Google is the worst. I have seen arrogant techies get older and then they get a shock.
They like the younger inexperienced engineers because they can work them like slaves!
“Even if it spends a month training the younger worker, the company is still far ahead.”
Yeah. Cuz an education in perl and java scripting can easily be transformed into in depth knowledge of industiral networking or fimrware in 6 months.
No problem... :)
Bill Gates needed his lower cost H1B workers. So he could make more money. So he could fund his foundation. So he could lobby the government to tax you more for things like socialized medicine (and outright push for death panels).
I loathe billionaire socialists like Gates and Soros who insist that I’m not paying enough taxes.
They are welcome to their wealth but they slit my throat to get it.
I have more problem with H1B discrimination. The Indian developers know they can rarely out-code their US counterpart so they get into management or the technical reviewer team to keep us out.
Sounds like the accounting profession. Shoosh, hire a pot full, work them to death and then rinse and replace. Nice, especially when you get to hire imports (see India, China). Would this have anything to do with CA financial problems?
We’re still importing H-1Bs though...
That’s a travesty . .
As an “older guy” who was one of those Silicon Valley engineer-manager-executives and took “way out #1” — became entrepreneurial and therefore stayed gainfully employed — let me point out one other thing about aging engineers.
Far too many of them stopped learning, growing, being excited about new technology. Instead, they depend solely on their vast “experience” — and they tend to approach every problem in the same old way, with the same old solutions. They pattern-match each task with what they have done in the past, rather than examining every problem as a new one and selecting the **best** (new or old) technology to solve it.
In other words, they are big, heavy hammers and to them every problem looks like the nails they “used” to pound in with it. So pound they do, oblivious to the fact that THIS newfangled nail has SCREW THREADS on it and a phillips drive slot on top. :-)
This is not only an issue with engineers — it affects professionals of every stripe, from doctors to CPAs to lawyers.
Yes, and it is not just tech companies that operate like this. Some of this is due to the "professional" HR people and the exposure to the company for age discrimination lawsuits from older workers. And the higher composite insurance costs that go with an aging workforce.
Judgement and experience have a value to companies that many HR personnel cannot understand. What works, works. I can never remember a HR manager that I met with any operational experience.
Hope & Change.
Hope & Change.
What a load of B.S. I bet some outsourcing H1B pimping company sold them on that fantasy.
One person who works on my team is in their mid 60’s, they are one of the best people in my team.
You make up all of your posts, or just that one?
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