Posted on 09/02/2010 7:55:00 PM PDT by 2nd amendment mama
VIDEO at link is "LaRouche supporter assaulted by Alaska State Fair Security"
This first day of the 2010 Alaska State Fair starts with sunny skies and a brutal assault by security personnel on a LaRouche supporter.
At about 5pm Alaska Time, Thursday, August 26, 2010, security personnel approach Sidney Hill, a lone man peacefully displaying an impeach Obama sign near Pioneer Plaza on the Alaska State Fairgrounds in Palmer. Minutes later, a crowd assembles, additional security forces arrive, and they physically assault the man holding the sign. He’s taken to the ground with force and detained.
An unidentified Alaska State Trooper arrives to physically disperse the crowd, and at several points during the conflict, crowd members yell in support of the demonstrator’s right to speak his message. The demonstrator’s personal firearm is confiscated by fair security, and he is held captive until Palmer police arrive to escort the man away in cuffs.
Sidney Hill was in jail awaiting a pre-trial at 1:00 pm on August 27, 2010 at the Palmer Courthouse. He has been charged with Assault 4-Cause Fear Of Injury, Disorderly Conduct-Challenge To Fight, and Criminal Trespass 2- Upon Premises. However, according to the Valley Frontiersman newspaper, “Assistant District Attorney Trina Sears said her office decided not to prosecute Hill on the assault charge.”
Did you notice how one instant, the security guard was quitely talking to a screaming, raving, insulting lunatic, and the next minute, the lunatic was belly to belly with a police officer?
Did you know that screaming insults at someone in close proximity can constitute assault?
Did you know that “state fairs” typically are not state funded (not sure about Alaska), but rather “state” refers to being for the whole state, not being run by the state?
Did you know that a 12-foot-wide sign, unlike a T-shirt, can pose an obstruction? (Sure, one guys’ not likely to cause a problem, but what if large numbers of people decide to?) And that therefore, even if it were a public space, he would not be permitted to carry it without a permit?
I’m deeply troubled by cops who act as if they are the law (rather than representing the law), and who use unnecessary force, but this guy was begging to be physically removed from the premise, and then fought cops like a rabid ferret.
Gee, someone did videotape the event... and then edited out the part immediately before the police used physical force? I wonder why someone would do that. Could it possibly be that it would have shown why the police used physical force?
Derka ,Derka, just like in Team America.
He did have absolutely no right to carry around a 12-foot-wide display and scream bloody blue murder. Yet I can’t help wonder what ELSE he did in those moments which were conveniently edited out of the video, immediately before the confrontation got physical. Let’s see, he was charged with threats, and challenges to a fight. Before the gap in the video, the security guard is talking quitely and calmly while he’s raving like a lunatic; after the gap, he’s belly to belly with a police officer who grabs his hand. Gee, you don’t suppose there’s something in that edited portion that the editor doesn’t feel makes his case very well, do you?
As I grow older, I seem to shake my head a lot more at where this country is headed.
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we’re already there. We’re heading back now my friend
The security guys were shaped like SEIU members.
Anyone wanna bet they are SEIU?
Most state fairs are held on private property. Many have official state recognition, but most are funded without state assistance. Even if the land they are held on is owned by the state, they still have a private permit, if not lease, for their activities, and no, you do have first amendment rights to do whatever you want to on such property. Your conduct has to be proper for the purpose of the property. Certain public lands, such as town squares, are fit for noisy greivances. But a school is public property, but you can’t just go screaming down the hallways. A road is public property, but you can’t just lean your hand on the horn as you circle the block over and over again.
Not sure the case you are referring to, but I certainly have seen many abuses of police authority.
The guy who wrestled him to the ground was a state trooper with his badge and gun.
I wouldn’t recommend attacking a state trooper carrying out his duty. The man had a badge, a gun, and backup. I also wouldn’t presume a trooper evil based on a video which edited out the part immediately before the trooper used physical force.
L.E.O. = union
“I don’t doubt that he became beligerent when asked to leave private property.”
I remember when righteous indignation was permitted in the Soviet IslamoSocialist Republik of Amerikastan.
You could even get all red in the face and shout at people without police acting like you’d killed and eaten someone.
However outre a nut this guy may be, I hope he sues the crap out of those security pukes for civil rights violations, assault, and general festering facism. Cops too.
I have always supported law enforcement officers and organizations, but I am *deeply* troubled by this business of putting people flat on the ground and cuffing them on the slightest pretext.
Unless they have probable cause to think a person is going to run or assault someone, they have no bloody right to rob a citizen of his dignity like that.
” Last I check security do not have the right or authority to physically touch you. They must have LEO’s do the actual arrest.”
Depends on the state’s laws regarding citizen’s arrest.
” if I did the same thing at the Butler Fair, I would EXPECT to be arrested for not leaving the premises when asked to do so.”
What if they asked you to leave because you had an American Flag lapel pin?
“Evidently there’s a “no advertizing” rule.”
Political speech is not advertising. It is, however, a God-given right.
In New Hampshire, in the Towns anyway, get 10 signatures on a petition and put it on the Town Warrant, fire the cops or cut their budget. Police powers are delegated from the people, it happens up here. The further government gets from the people the less control you have.
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