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Light bulb factory closes; End of era for U.S. means more jobs overseas
Wapo ^ | 09/08/10 | Peter Whorisky

Posted on 09/08/2010 1:40:25 PM PDT by freespirited

WINCHESTER, VA. - The last major GE factory making ordinary incandescent light bulbs in the United States is closing this month, marking a small, sad exit for a product and company that can trace their roots to Thomas Alva Edison's innovations in the 1870s.

The remaining 200 workers at the plant here will lose their jobs.

"Now what're we going to do?" said Toby Savolainen, 49, who like many others worked for decades at the factory, making bulbs now deemed wasteful.

During the recession, political and business leaders have held out the promise that American advances, particularly in green technology, might stem the decades-long decline in U.S. manufacturing jobs. But as the lighting industry shows, even when the government pushes companies toward environmental innovations and Americans come up with them, the manufacture of the next generation technology can still end up overseas.

What made the plant here vulnerable is, in part, a 2007 energy conservation measure passed by Congress that set standards essentially banning ordinary incandescents by 2014. The law will force millions of American households to switch to more efficient bulbs.

The resulting savings in energy and greenhouse-gas emissions are expected to be immense. But the move also had unintended consequences.

Rather than setting off a boom in the U.S. manufacture of replacement lights, the leading replacement lights are compact fluorescents, or CFLs, which are made almost entirely overseas, mostly in China.

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TOPICS: Front Page News; News/Current Events; US: Virginia
KEYWORDS: china; corruption; economy; energy; ge; generalelectric; incandescent; jobkiller; lightbulbs; manufacturing; obama; virginia; winchester
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Way to go, Congress!

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1 posted on 09/08/2010 1:40:28 PM PDT by freespirited
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To: freespirited

Turn out the lights.
The party’s over.


2 posted on 09/08/2010 1:41:52 PM PDT by No Truce With Kings (I can see November from my house.)
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To: freespirited

It probably means increased depression, since most people don’t have access to full spectrum lights besides bulbs.


3 posted on 09/08/2010 1:42:36 PM PDT by nickcarraway
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To: freespirited

GE are mega wh*res too. MSNBC/CNBC/NBC. They undermine America to curry favor with China and Saudi Arabia.


4 posted on 09/08/2010 1:42:44 PM PDT by Frantzie (Imam Ob*m* & Democrats support the VICTORY MOSQUE & TV supports Imam)
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To: freespirited

My youngest DD attends Shenandoah Conservatory in Winchester. She is sickened by the news, as should be all Americans. Bob


5 posted on 09/08/2010 1:43:03 PM PDT by alstewartfan ("If I should live to be seven, I might forget Stephanie!" Al Stewart)
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To: freespirited
Way to go, Congress!
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dont forget who signed it....GWB. another RINO who gave us that and started the whole stimulus crap.

6 posted on 09/08/2010 1:43:30 PM PDT by Vaquero (Don't pick a fight with an old guy. If he is too old to fight, he'll just kill you.)
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To: freespirited
Congress was a day late and a dollar short in that change. The big switch to fluorescent lighting happened over half a century ago ~ in factories, stores, offices, public places, etc.

This was nothing but feelgood legislation that accomplished nothing.

Now, the next form of lighting ~ LEDs. US Manufacturers own all the good patents in this technology.

7 posted on 09/08/2010 1:44:15 PM PDT by muawiyah
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To: freespirited

The “replacement lights” GE sells won’t be made in the US, you can take that to the bank.


8 posted on 09/08/2010 1:44:29 PM PDT by bigbob
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To: Vaquero
dont forget who signed it....GWB. another RINO who gave us that

Yup. GWB believes in GWB (global warming BS).

9 posted on 09/08/2010 1:44:29 PM PDT by freespirited
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To: freespirited

“a 2007 energy conservation measure passed by Congress that set standards essentially banning ordinary incandescents by 2014.”

A law passed at the behest of GE because they had the patents and investments in China to build the new bulbs.

Freeeeee Trade! China doesn’t play it but its nevertheless Frrreeeeee!


10 posted on 09/08/2010 1:45:29 PM PDT by Shermy (Smoot Hawley caused the Depression, FDR saved us from the Depression. Two Big Lies.)
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To: freespirited

Government electrics is friends with Obama.

They kiss his butt, he promotes green tech that they will profit from.

They close up shop in the USA and sell carbon credits to china.

Move shop to china where labor is cheap and polluting is easy.


11 posted on 09/08/2010 1:45:37 PM PDT by cripplecreek (Remember the River Raisin! (look it up))
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To: No Truce With Kings

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12 posted on 09/08/2010 1:45:58 PM PDT by BenLurkin (This post is not a statement of fact. It is merely a personal opinion -- or humor -- or both.)
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To: freespirited

The GE bulbs I’ve been seeing are stamped Mexico and don’t seem to last like they used to.


13 posted on 09/08/2010 1:46:21 PM PDT by a fool in paradise (I want IMPROVEMENT, not just CHANGE.)
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To: freespirited
>>Way to go, Congress!<<

There once was a day that our government protected America and her standard of living.

That's no more.

My daughters live up in the Winchester area, this will hurt the already suppressed local economy.

Yep, Thanx Congress...for all the help.

14 posted on 09/08/2010 1:47:48 PM PDT by servantboy777
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To: freespirited

Oops, I took a compact florescent bulb to my local federal building to ask them how to use it, but I dropped it in the lobby where all the people were returning from lunch. I quickly cleaned up the obvious shards of glass, but there was a whole bunch of powder and other stuff on the floor, and it got tracked all through the building. They had to close the building because the mercury vapor levels were deemed too high. It cost millions to have a remediation company come in and tear up the carpets and epoxy seal the floors.

/”sarcasm”


15 posted on 09/08/2010 1:49:30 PM PDT by Born to Conserve
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To: freespirited; 1rudeboy
"Light bulb factory closes; End of era for U.S. means more jobs overseas"

If only we could get some more government intervetion into the free market to fix the problems caused by government intervention into the free market...

16 posted on 09/08/2010 1:49:51 PM PDT by Mad Dawgg (If you're going to deny my 1st Amendment rights then I must proceed to the next one...)
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To: freespirited

Hate CFLs:

1. Mercury in them will cause a bigger environmental problem than the carbon burned in an incandescent will.

2. They oscillate, which takes its toll on both eyesight and on your head.

3. Far more expensive.

4. Won’t fit into lamps and fixtures that incandescents will.

5. If they last longer, I haven’t been able to bear that out. I’ve labeled the ones I use here and compare them to incandescents - so far they have come out equal in lifespan.

6. Energy savings? I’ve got five flat screen TV’s in the house. The aspect of my power bill spent on lights is minor in comparison to devices with CPUs in them, or with monitors. I don’t have an AC, but in homes that do, the power used by AC’s dwarf that used by lights.

Conclusion: Not backed by science. It’ll create a bigger environmental disaster than the one it seeks to clean up.

Between giant car batteries used by hybrids/prius and these mercury based CFLs, our kids 20 years from now are going to wonder if we put crack in the water supply. Had we actually put the crack in the water supply, it may actually be safer than the chemicals that will leach from the batteries and the lights.


17 posted on 09/08/2010 1:49:56 PM PDT by RinaseaofDs (Does beheading qualify as 'breaking my back', in the Jeffersonian sense of the expression?)
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To: freespirited

So they’ll make us all buy more expensive bulbs that will take years to pay for themselves. And we’re forced to buy them from overseas.

I’m reminded of one person who many on here hate. His name is Ross Perot. He said “There’s one deficit nobody wants to talk about. And that’s the trade deficit.” Guess they still don’t want to talk about it.


18 posted on 09/08/2010 1:50:17 PM PDT by Terry Mross (o)
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To: freespirited

I predict that eventually we will force a repeal of this silly law, but it will be far too late for Americans who made incandescent bulbs for a living.


19 posted on 09/08/2010 1:51:42 PM PDT by Buckeye McFrog
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To: alstewartfan

I went to Shenandoah University also. Great town. Great history.

Too bad for the loss of jobs.


20 posted on 09/08/2010 1:52:41 PM PDT by 30Moves
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To: freespirited

“The law will force millions of American households to switch to more efficient bulbs”.

...not my American household. I’ll be stocking up and you can be sure that regular bulbs will be sold somewhere. There is no way I’ll be forced into using those twisty little idiotic, headache causing bulbs of pain.


21 posted on 09/08/2010 1:52:41 PM PDT by albie
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To: Terry Mross
What prudent merchant will hazard his fortunes in any new branch of commerce when he knows not that his plans may be rendered unlawful before they can be executed?

James Madison.

That quote could be easily applied for any number of taxes and regulations.
22 posted on 09/08/2010 1:54:26 PM PDT by cripplecreek (Remember the River Raisin! (look it up))
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To: freespirited
The law will force millions of American households to switch to more efficient bulbs.

And forcing others to buy extra storage bins for all the ones we've stockpiled.

23 posted on 09/08/2010 1:54:47 PM PDT by nina0113
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To: RinaseaofDs
5. If they last longer, I haven’t been able to bear that out. I’ve labeled the ones I use here and compare them to incandescents - so far they have come out equal in lifespan.

They did last longer when they were made here. Now that they are coming from China, their longevity is diminished.


24 posted on 09/08/2010 1:55:26 PM PDT by Nepeta
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To: freespirited

Another Bush gift indeed. Republicans banned DDT, Freon, Nuclear power and light bulbs in hope the leftards will like them. Learn the lesson yet????


25 posted on 09/08/2010 1:55:29 PM PDT by Dogbert41
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To: freespirited
Yup. GWB believes in GWB (global warming BS).

No, he doesn't. Who dropped the Kyoto treaty? Who fought the EPA tooth and nail (all the way to the Supreme Court) to keep them from treating CO2 as a pollutant?

Please show me one quote from GWB that in anyway supports man made global warming.

26 posted on 09/08/2010 1:55:29 PM PDT by A.Hun (Common sense is no longer common.)
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To: RinaseaofDs; blackie; ExTexasRedhead; Nachum; LucyT
The danger of compact fluorescent lighting

Snip: Also new research has come to light that indicates that CFLs emit a high humming sound that is not in our range of hearing but is in the range of hearing of cats and dogs. Can you image hearing a high pitched humming sound all day long. It would be enough to drive you nuts! Many pet owners report that their cats or dogs do not want to be in rooms with CFL bulbs on and will become anxious if they are forced to be.

27 posted on 09/08/2010 1:57:40 PM PDT by MamaDearest
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To: Vaquero

And a lot of people either don’t realize or won’t admit that the “you can buy a house if you’re breathing” period started in 2005 when W and the repubs held the power.


28 posted on 09/08/2010 1:58:25 PM PDT by Terry Mross (o)
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To: Nepeta

I have a couple of the older American made CFLs that I like just fine. The ones coming from China are pure crap and half the time they don’t even work right out of the package.

The LED lights are nice but damn expensive.


29 posted on 09/08/2010 2:01:31 PM PDT by cripplecreek (Remember the River Raisin! (look it up))
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To: freespirited

Stock up on the 100 watt beauties.


30 posted on 09/08/2010 2:04:06 PM PDT by Cheetahcat (Zero the Wright kind of Racist! We are in a state of War with Democrats)
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To: freespirited

....eventually Congress will pass another law because of the mercury in CFL’s that you’ll have to pay to dispose of them...properly,by law,(taxed).


31 posted on 09/08/2010 2:06:30 PM PDT by Doogle ((USAF.68-73..8th TFW Ubon Thailand..never store a threat you should have eliminated))
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To: MamaDearest; GailA; DvdMom; callisto; ZULU; rodguy911; Candor7; freekitty; flat; unkus; Howie66; ...

We The People must DEMAND the light bulb Gestapo in DC be stopped! The new Republican majority in the House and Senate must repeal this insanity.

We must DEMAND that the Republicans get Big Brother out of our light bulbs, out of our health care, out of what cars we buy, out of our plastic bags, and out of our lives and out of our businesses.


32 posted on 09/08/2010 2:06:49 PM PDT by ExTexasRedhead (Take back our country on November 2, 2010.)
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To: RinaseaofDs
My 82 year old mom got all excited about saving money by unplugging the charger for her cell phone. I pointed out that running the 52" plasma TV all day long is her major energy consumer. Her air conditioner, washer and dryer are next. The refrigerator as well. It's amazing how folks get worked up over little things and ignore the elephants.
33 posted on 09/08/2010 2:07:40 PM PDT by Myrddin
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To: Terry Mross
And a lot of people either don’t realize or won’t admit that the “you can buy a house if you’re breathing” period started in 2005 when W and the repubs held the power.

Bush railed against what was going on in congress re: fanny and freddie....he just did not continue after a short while and signed the bills necessary to get what he wanted in trade....the real enemies in this was buttwipes like Bawney Fwank and Chuckie ‘putzhead’ Schumer....but Bush was not innocent by any stretch.

34 posted on 09/08/2010 2:08:26 PM PDT by Vaquero (Don't pick a fight with an old guy. If he is too old to fight, he'll just kill you.)
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To: freespirited
compact fluorescents, or CFLs, which are made almost entirely overseas, mostly in China.

And yet, I will bet we never hear the phrase "shipped jobs overseas" in relation to this. Even though "shipping jobs overseas" precisely applies better to this act by Congress than to any corporate layoff.

35 posted on 09/08/2010 2:08:48 PM PDT by denydenydeny (You're not only wrong. You're wrong at the top of your voice. --Spencer Tracy, Bad Day at Black Rock)
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To: freespirited

Pelosi / Reed can own this one.


36 posted on 09/08/2010 2:10:36 PM PDT by NonValueAdded ("People are losing jobs because of DemocRATs" Rush Limbaugh 9/8/10)
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To: a fool in paradise
The GE bulbs I’ve been seeing are stamped Mexico and don’t seem to last like they used to.

Just checked my stash of GE Incandescents. They were "Made in China" by "GE Lighting(China)Co. LTD."

Looks like the CFL's may have had nothing to do with the plant shutting down.

37 posted on 09/08/2010 2:12:51 PM PDT by sonofagun (Some think my cynicism grows with age. I like to think of it as wisdom!)
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To: a fool in paradise
“The GE bulbs I’ve been seeing are stamped Mexico and don’t seem to last like they used to.”

Because like the chinese the stuff only has to be 80% of the original.

38 posted on 09/08/2010 2:13:10 PM PDT by Cheetahcat (Zero the Wright kind of Racist! We are in a state of War with Democrats)
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To: nina0113

Stock Tip: Stock up on storage bins for stockpiling.


39 posted on 09/08/2010 2:13:57 PM PDT by onona (dbada)
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To: freespirited

“Now what’re we going to do?”

Vote Republican


40 posted on 09/08/2010 2:14:13 PM PDT by DontTreadOnMe2009 (So stop treading on me already!)
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To: cripplecreek
The LED lights are nice but damn expensive.

I replaced a couple spots (incandescent) with LED spots. The LED light is very blue and the load is completely wrong for the dimmer. LED needs to be controller with a PWM style of dimmer. Incandescent dimmers are based on triacs and a variable oscillator. The LED lamps don't present enough load to operate the dimmer properly.

The LED lights that I added for outside are also a problem. They are attached to motion detectors. The circuitry leaks enough current to maintain a dim glow of the LEDs. When motion is detected, the LEDs illuminate fully. A motion detector style of LED lighting controller should use a relay to fully break the circuit to the LED elements.

41 posted on 09/08/2010 2:14:24 PM PDT by Myrddin
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To: Terry Mross
I’m reminded of one person who many on here hate. His name is Ross Perot.

Yeah, everytime I read of another plant closure, the three words "Giant sucking sound" (spoken in Perot's Texas twang) always pop into my head.

42 posted on 09/08/2010 2:16:11 PM PDT by Drew68
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To: RinaseaofDs
2. They oscillate, which takes its toll on both eyesight and on your head.

With our government's long record of being totally unable to foresee the consequences of their actions, there will probably be a significant and very expensive increase in eye problems after a few years of mandatory use of these fluorescent mini bulbs.

43 posted on 09/08/2010 2:16:24 PM PDT by Will88
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To: freespirited
The resulting savings in energy and greenhouse-gas emissions are expected to be immense.

Non-existent greenhouse-gas problems now trump existing jobs.

The only thing immense here, is the level of stupidity exhibited.

44 posted on 09/08/2010 2:17:44 PM PDT by DoughtyOne (UniTea! It's not Rs vs Ds you dimwits. It's Cs vs Ls. Cut the crap & lets build for success.)
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To: RinaseaofDs

Good post. You’re right. And id like to add the danger of the the new bulbs. Do these crazies realize the lawsuits that are to pop up because these new bulbs are extremely hazardous to your health when they break. Lawmakers are putting american citizens in harms way to satisfy global warming bullies. There should be class action lawsuits against the gov for putting us in harms way and stealing our f*****g liberties. When is it going to stop.


45 posted on 09/08/2010 2:22:21 PM PDT by Free Per the Constitution
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To: sonofagun
From the article: "We've always had a lot of industry here in the valley, I've never had a problem finding a job," he said. "A person really wanted to work, you could go from one factory to another. Everything nowadays is tougher."

This has nothing to do with CFL's vs incandescants. It has everything to do with allowing our manufacturing base along with its infrastructure flee our country for cheap labor AND less stringent eco standards imposed on manufacturing.

46 posted on 09/08/2010 2:23:27 PM PDT by sonofagun (Some think my cynicism grows with age. I like to think of it as wisdom!)
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To: freespirited

The Left won’t be satisfied until Americans are all starving, shivering in the cold, and sitting in the dark.


47 posted on 09/08/2010 2:25:55 PM PDT by EternalVigilance (With God, Obama can't hurt us. Without God, George Washington couldn't save us.)
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To: A.Hun
No, he doesn't. Who dropped the Kyoto treaty? Who fought the EPA tooth and nail (all the way to the Supreme Court) to keep them from treating CO2 as a pollutant? Please show me one quote from GWB that in anyway supports man made global warming.

This is an AP story.

George Bush Global Warming Speech

48 posted on 09/08/2010 2:30:16 PM PDT by freespirited
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To: freespirited

I have been stocking up on incandescents. They’re really cheap.


49 posted on 09/08/2010 2:36:21 PM PDT by Jeff Chandler (Judas Iscariot - the first social justice advocate. John 12:3-6)
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To: freespirited

I could go on and on about how stupid the feds are about these CFLs, but I’m still so pissed about having to flush my toilet 12 times instead of one, because of the water conservation ideas from congress, that I can’t think about it.


50 posted on 09/08/2010 2:54:52 PM PDT by Born to Conserve
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