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Twelve U.S. soldiers face trial after Afghan civilians 'were killed for sport....'
www.dailymail.co.uk ^ | Last updated at 8:43 AM on 10th September 2010

Posted on 09/10/2010 11:53:13 AM PDT by jagusafr

12 US Soldiers are facing trial in the deaths of Afghan civilians - being described as cold-blooded murder.

(Excerpt) Read more at dailymail.co.uk ...


TOPICS: Breaking News; Foreign Affairs; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: afghan; army; civilians; murder
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To: LeonardFMason
"NOTHING MORE.” simply doesn’t square with the facts."

You make it sound as if B29s flew over Tokyo, and without regard to targets, dropped ordinance anywhere they felt like it. They didn't. Those are the facts.

And again, drawing any comparison to what was done in Tokyo to killing for sport is a spurious claim. I'm sorry you keep making it.

101 posted on 09/11/2010 8:51:19 PM PDT by OldDeckHand
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To: bigheadfred
"I see you don't follow me around here much."

Wow, we have an inflated sense of self, don't we?

No son, I don't spend any energy "following you around" here - not just much, but at all.

BTW, I can see crazed leftists pointing to this thread highlighting were members of Free Republic hope for, and joke about the murder of children under the age of five.

Yep, that's hysterical. You're a regular Jerry Lewis. /s

102 posted on 09/11/2010 8:55:05 PM PDT by OldDeckHand
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To: OldDeckHand

I didn’t really think that a /sarc tag was needed for this statement, which only points out the implication of the other posts.


103 posted on 09/11/2010 9:09:53 PM PDT by Lucius Cornelius Sulla ('“Our own government has become our enemy' - Sheriff Paul Babeu)
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To: Lucius Cornelius Sulla
"I didn’t really think that a /sarc tag was needed for this statement, which only points out the implication of the other posts"

Yes, if you intended to be sarcastic, it went past me. I'm sorry I missed it.

104 posted on 09/11/2010 9:11:51 PM PDT by OldDeckHand
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To: OldDeckHand
I guess you believed Swift's A Modest Proposal too.
105 posted on 09/11/2010 9:12:56 PM PDT by Lucius Cornelius Sulla ('“Our own government has become our enemy' - Sheriff Paul Babeu)
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To: Lucius Cornelius Sulla
"I guess you believed Swift's A Modest Proposal too."

Not unless it came out in Cliff Notes.

106 posted on 09/11/2010 9:14:41 PM PDT by OldDeckHand
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To: OldDeckHand

‘Not unless it came out in Cliff Notes.’

No, but it came out in Spark Notes: “ http://www.sparknotes.com/lit/modestproposal/summary.html


107 posted on 09/11/2010 9:21:27 PM PDT by Lucius Cornelius Sulla ('“Our own government has become our enemy' - Sheriff Paul Babeu)
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To: OldDeckHand

When we are talking about people with a completely different mindset, like the afganimaniacs, I don’t think it’s a joke to talk about wiping them out. We shouldn’t be seeing increasing U.S. deaths. This crap should be over with. But when bush took his eye off the ball and headed for Iraq this was bound to happen. Win their hearts and minds. Crap. Heroin production has increased dramatically. Corruption. Billions poured down a craphole for NO GAIN.With restrictive ROE’s, No air support, too worried about civilian casualties, it was time to leave a LONG time ago. If some of our boys bring home a trophy or five, good for them.


108 posted on 09/11/2010 9:22:52 PM PDT by bigheadfred (We built a tower of stone. With our flesh and bone. Just to see him fly .)
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To: montag813

Great post and I love you for saying that. Mmmwwaaaahhh! That’s a big kiss for being a great American.


109 posted on 09/11/2010 10:09:50 PM PDT by JouleZ (You are the company you keep.)
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To: OldDeckHand

“The US resumed bombing of Japan after a two-year lull following the 1942 Doolittle raids in fall 1944. The goal of the bombing assault that destroyed Japan’s major cities in the period between May and August 1945, the US Strategic Bombing Survey explained, was “either to bring overwhelming pressure on her to surrender, or to reduce her capability of resisting invasion. . . . [by destroying] the basic economic and social fabric of the country.” [23] A proposal by the Chief of Staff of the Twentieth Air Force to target the imperial palace was rejected, but in the wake of successive failures to eliminate such key strategic targets as Japan’s Nakajima Aircraft Factory west of Tokyo, the area bombing of Japanese cities was approved. [24]

The full fury of firebombing and napalm was unleashed on the night of March 9-10, 1945 when LeMay sent 334 B-29s low over Tokyo from the Marianas. Their mission was to reduce the city to rubble, kill its citizens, and instill terror in the survivors, with jellied gasoline and napalm that would create a sea of flames. Stripped of their guns to make more room for bombs, and flying at altitudes averaging 7,000 feet to evade detection, the bombers, which had been designed for high-altitude precision attacks, carried two kinds of incendiaries: M47s, 100-pound oil gel bombs, 182 per aircraft, each capable of starting a major fire, followed by M69s, 6-pound gelled-gasoline bombs, 1,520 per aircraft in addition to a few high explosives to deter firefighters. [25] The attack on an area that the US Strategic Bombing Survey estimated to be 84.7 percent residential succeeded beyond the wildest dreams of air force planners. Whipped by fierce winds, flames detonated by the bombs leaped across a fifteen square mile area of Tokyo generating immense firestorms that engulfed and killed scores of thousands of residents.”

Dude you couldn’t be more wrong. I didn’t say they didn’t have targets. Your the know-it-all that said all of the targets were military industrial complex. YOUR WRONG. They targeted residential areas.

I am not equating anthing except death. Dead civilians are dead civilians. They die in war. Does it matter to them how?


110 posted on 09/11/2010 11:49:55 PM PDT by LeonardFMason
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To: Lucius Cornelius Sulla
“As you are aware civilian bombing victims are considered collateral damage. Deliberately killing an unarmed civilian is considered homicide.”

I am aware.

What's the difference between a civilian killed by a bomber and a civilian killed by homicide?

A silly euphemism. Dead is dead.

111 posted on 09/12/2010 12:00:57 AM PDT by LeonardFMason
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To: OldDeckHand

What an appalling thread. Makes me ashamed to think that
supposedly G*d-fearing christians could yipe so enthusiastically about murdering innocents.

In VN we often endangered and caused some innocent civilians
to die. Up close. Mines I set killed a man and his son.
I have felt bad about that ever since. I hope the Almighty
forgives me when my judgement day comes.


112 posted on 09/12/2010 9:04:17 AM PDT by rahbert
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To: cowboyusa

Everything you’ve written here has my endorsement.

Including the promise to make it GLOW.


113 posted on 09/13/2010 1:09:34 AM PDT by happygrl (Continuing to predict that Obama will resign)
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To: OldDeckHand

I guess we’ve all forgotten Haditha?


114 posted on 09/14/2010 9:29:13 PM PDT by Postman
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