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Much Ado About “Nothing”: Stephen Hawking and the Self-Creating Universe
First Things ^ | 09/12/2010 | Stephen Barr

Posted on 09/12/2010 7:43:20 AM PDT by SeekAndFind

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1 posted on 09/12/2010 7:43:23 AM PDT by SeekAndFind
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Of course, God can create circumstances to make things appear in any way; there is no way to refute the existence of God. Therefore, whether God exists or not is simply not a scientific question.


2 posted on 09/12/2010 7:48:40 AM PDT by coloradan (The US has become a banana republic, except without the bananas - or the republic.)
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To: SeekAndFind

Why does Hawking have to think so small and limit his parameters? Such thinking is a sign that man views himself as the only God, as if God is beyond comprehension, then God does not exist! Sorry, but Hawking needs to look at the bigger picture!


3 posted on 09/12/2010 7:49:03 AM PDT by tired&retired
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To: SeekAndFind

Every created thing carries with it some residual of its creator. Since God is an uncaused existence, it is no surprise that His primordial creation should, from certain aspects, appear to be uncaused.


4 posted on 09/12/2010 7:51:29 AM PDT by jjotto ("Ya could look it up!")
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5 posted on 09/12/2010 7:54:54 AM PDT by WSGilcrest (I'm just sayin'...)
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To: SeekAndFind
“Why does anything exist rather than nothing at all?”

The atheist answers, “There is no explanation.”
The theist replies, God.

An intelligent case can be made for either answer.
But to say that the laws of physics alone answer
it is the purest nonsense

Bingo

Science can describe the Universe, but
It cannot, in principle, explain
Where it came from, or
Why it exists

For this, one requires a MetaPhysic
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Metaphysics

6 posted on 09/12/2010 7:55:14 AM PDT by HangnJudge
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With all his "brilliance", I don't think that Hawkings has accomplished anything useful for the world.

?Not a failure...just doing what he likes to do....guess at how the universe works....

7 posted on 09/12/2010 7:55:32 AM PDT by Sacajaweau (What)
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To: SeekAndFind

he has no idea....

.....he can neither prove or disprove this.

to be fair, neither can believers.


8 posted on 09/12/2010 7:56:21 AM PDT by Vaquero (Don't pick a fight with an old guy. If he is too old to fight, he'll just kill you.)
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To: Sacajaweau

OK so how did nothing get there? Where was nothing before it became something?


9 posted on 09/12/2010 7:58:36 AM PDT by screaminsunshine (counter revolutionary)
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To: WSGilcrest
Heh, that picture is just plain wrong. But it's funny as heck anway. $:-)

One thing I got out of my studies (such as they were) of the Standard Model, is that a true TOE (Theory of Everything) could be ultimately summarized as an equation with all of creation on one side, and a zero on the other. In English: All that exists is merely another expression of nothingness. At a point, though, the math was simply beyond me.

All known symmetries do not add up to 1; they balance out to zero. All except gravity, the odd man out, and that may change the whole picture. But a TOE that incorporates gravity is still a dream.

10 posted on 09/12/2010 8:13:23 AM PDT by Joe Brower (Sheep have three speeds: "graze", "stampede" and "cower".)
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To: SeekAndFind
The atheist answers, “There is no explanation.”
The theist replies, God.

Throughout the history of scientific inquiry, people have used "God" as shorthand for "There is no explanation (yet)."

11 posted on 09/12/2010 8:16:46 AM PDT by snarkpup (We need to replace our politicians before they replace us.)
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To: coloradan

1. There is only one universe.
2. The concept of alternate universes is stupid. The universe, by definition, is all there is, was, and will be (Carl Sagan).
3. It is even more stupid to say that a universe can exist one moment, then not exist the next moment, then come back into existence a little later.
4. I’m still laughing over the idea that a universe can exist in the “no-universe state.”
5. My sides still hurt from laughing over the idea that a universe can pop into existence spontaneously.


12 posted on 09/12/2010 8:20:51 AM PDT by Leftism is Mentally Deranged (Annoying liberals is my goal. I will not be silenced.)
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To: screaminsunshine
OK so how did nothing get there?
Where was nothing before it became something?

I've yet to see an improvement on this
The Laws of Physics show the path to the Creation
Hawking cannot define the creation without following the Law
Where did the Law Come From?


13 posted on 09/12/2010 8:23:23 AM PDT by HangnJudge
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Stephen Hawking and the Self-Creating Universe
First Things ^ | 09/12/2010 | Stephen Barr

Hawking is a Lilliputian in the field of Isaac Newton.

14 posted on 09/12/2010 8:30:38 AM PDT by Uri’el-2012 (Psalm 119:174 I long for Your salvation, YHvH, Your law is my delight.)
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To: SeekAndFind

Thoughts are only evident when reality appears in front of the originator, know God? Then we can see what is creating by His spoken word..


15 posted on 09/12/2010 8:49:51 AM PDT by aeonspromise
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To: UriÂ’el-2012
"I think he's a nut!

Don Knotts

16 posted on 09/12/2010 8:49:53 AM PDT by yesca ("..don't touch that)
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And The Universe is more interesting than poor Stephen can imagine ... see fifth chapter of Daniel, Old Testament, for an ‘other dimensional being’ visiting Belshazzar’s palace party central, invisible except for a forearm/hand.


17 posted on 09/12/2010 9:05:23 AM PDT by MHGinTN (Mormons, believing they cannot be deceived; nye impossible to convince them when they're deceived.)
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To: SeekAndFind

Hawking figures since he’s mess up, there can’t be a higher power.


18 posted on 09/12/2010 9:12:32 AM PDT by wolfcreek (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Lsd7DGqVSIc)
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To: Sacajaweau

“With all his “brilliance”, I don’t think that Hawkings has accomplished anything useful for the world.” Such a foolish statement! Stephen has been a teacher all of his adult life! And his work on black holes has advanced the understandings in Physics. Stephen Hawking has been a tremendous addition to the human species ... because God made him and had a plan for Stephen’s life. Thanks be to God that our species has such men as Stephen Hawking or Christopher Hitchens. These men make some of us THINK!


19 posted on 09/12/2010 9:14:00 AM PDT by MHGinTN (Mormons, believing they cannot be deceived; nye impossible to convince them when they're deceived.)
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To: HangnJudge

Purrhaps quantum fluctuations?

http://www.braungardt.com/Physics/Vacuum%20Fluctuation.htm


20 posted on 09/12/2010 9:19:43 AM PDT by PeteCat
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