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Catholic Church defends support of DREAM Act [ would help young illegal immigrants illegalls ]
contracostatimes ^ | Sept 10 2010 | Liset Márquez, Staff Writer

Posted on 09/12/2010 4:59:03 PM PDT by NoLibZone

RANCHO CUCAMONGA - The Catholic Diocese of San Bernardino is defending its decision to hold an event in the city that rallied support around legislation that would aid undocumented young people.

The gathering at Sacred Heart Roman Catholic Church aimed to raise awareness and promote advocacy for the DREAM Act, said John Andrews, spokesman for the Diocese of San Bernardino.

The Development, Relief and Education of Alien Minors Act would help young illegal immigrants who are illegally in the United States enlist in the military, attend college or acquire citizenship. The youth would have to meet certain requirements, such as being high school graduates and of good moral character.

But members of a Claremont-based grassroots group said the Catholic Diocese has violated the separation of church and state principle. Separation of church and state is derived from documents put together by the country's founders.

"They are no longer advocating people to vote, they are going further beyond than that. They are politically looking to circumvent the rule of law," said Raymond Herrera, founder of We The People, California's Crusader

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TOPICS: Culture/Society; Extended News; Foreign Affairs; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: 2surrender2mexico; 4thecommongood; borderslanguage; culture; illegalinvasion; illegals; invadersfrommexico; invasion; mexicaninvasion
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1 posted on 09/12/2010 4:59:09 PM PDT by NoLibZone
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To: NoLibZone

They cannot be of good moral character if the first thing they do here is break the law, can they?


2 posted on 09/12/2010 5:01:23 PM PDT by sayuncledave (A cruce salus)
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To: NoLibZone

Strip them of their tax-exempt status forthwith! As a Catholic I’ve nothing but the utmost contempt for the church hierarchy and the Vatican. Nothing but a bunch of money-grubbing hypocrites.


3 posted on 09/12/2010 5:02:15 PM PDT by jmacusa (Two wrongs don't make a right. But they can make it interesting.)
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To: NoLibZone

I have had my issues with the Church for many years, but its blantant encouragement of illegal immigration, to America’s detriment, was what finally caused me to break with the Church.


4 posted on 09/12/2010 5:03:02 PM PDT by ought-six ( Multiculturalism is national suicide, and political correctness is the cyanide capsule.)
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To: ought-six

blantant = blatant.


5 posted on 09/12/2010 5:04:51 PM PDT by ought-six ( Multiculturalism is national suicide, and political correctness is the cyanide capsule.)
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To: NoLibZone

Why doesn’t Mexico have its own DREAM Act for its citizens?


6 posted on 09/12/2010 5:05:11 PM PDT by FlingWingFlyer (Don't you dare try to use MY Constitution to protect and defend MY enemies!)
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To: NoLibZone

Am I of ‘’good moral character’’ if I decide not to continue to pay my taxes to subsidize criminality such as this?


7 posted on 09/12/2010 5:06:42 PM PDT by jmacusa (Two wrongs don't make a right. But they can make it interesting.)
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To: NoLibZone

One more reason I’m not part of that church anymore.


8 posted on 09/12/2010 5:12:53 PM PDT by ScottinVA (The West needs to act NOW to aggressively treat its metastasizing islaminoma!)
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To: NoLibZone

Church believes that you can reject secular laws if they are immoral. thus the foundation of liberation theology.

Besides over 90% of illegals are roman catholic.


9 posted on 09/12/2010 5:17:23 PM PDT by Secret Agent Man (I'd like to tell you, but then I'd have to kill you.)
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To: NoLibZone

This is one of N reasons why I left the church - where N is a large number.


10 posted on 09/12/2010 5:22:39 PM PDT by Da Coyote
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Not a shocker considering...

Catholic Legal Immigration Network
http://cliniclegal.org/
In 1988, the United States Conference of Catholic Bishops (USCCB) established CLINIC as a legally distinct 501(c)(3) organization to support a rapidly growing network of community-based immigration programs. CLINIC’s network originally comprised 17 programs. It has since increased to more than 185 diocesan and other affiliated immigration programs with 290 field offices in 48 states. The network employs roughly 1,200 attorneys and “accredited” paralegals who, in turn, serve 600,000 low-income immigrants each year. CLINIC and its member agencies represent low-income immigrants without reference to their race, religion, gender, ethnic group, or other distinguishing characteristics.

In 2007 alone, CLINIC provided 7,676 detained immigrants with “know your rights” workshops.


11 posted on 09/12/2010 5:32:52 PM PDT by TSgt (And the war came.)
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Doesn’t surprise me. I live in the Diocese of San Bernardino. Bishop Gerald Barnes keeps pumping out letters to parishioners about how we have a moral obligation to support ALL immigrants. Just one more reason why folks are no longer contributing to any of Bishop Barnes’ fund raisers. Plus, each parish is given a budget number it must hit for his special annual fund raiser. If the budget number is not reached, then the parish has to reach into its own funds to make up the difference. Talk about a shakedown. This is in addition to the tithing amount, something like 10 to 20% of weekly basket collections, that have to be turned over to the diocese.


12 posted on 09/12/2010 5:36:29 PM PDT by CdMGuy
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To: NoLibZone

Let the Catholic Church pay the federal taxes that go to local school districts to pay for educating illegals, including the expense of training and educating bilingual teachers. Let them pay for the medicaid the vast majority of illegal students are on, and for the social services that their parents receive. Then let the Catholic Church suffer the consequences of increasing radical left voters and degrading the US to a Third World pit.


14 posted on 09/12/2010 6:14:34 PM PDT by pallis
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To: jmacusa
As a Catholic I’ve nothing but the utmost contempt for the church hierarchy and the Vatican.

Just curious; with that attitude, can you really consider yourself a Catholic?
15 posted on 09/12/2010 6:25:41 PM PDT by armydoc
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THE CATHOLICS ARE NOT BRINGING IN THE ILLEGALS. THE PROTESTANT FARMERS OUT WEST HAVE ALWAYS HAD A “TASTE FOR SLAVES”. THEY WANT THEM TO WORK ON THEIR RANCHES FOR VERY LITTLE WAGES.


16 posted on 09/12/2010 6:49:58 PM PDT by GinaLolaB
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To: armydoc

Yup. And I’ll stand before my God to be judged. There isn’t anyone on this earth who can judge me.


17 posted on 09/12/2010 7:13:15 PM PDT by jmacusa (Two wrongs don't make a right. But they can make it interesting.)
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The Catholic Church, in certain respects, resembles a confederacy whereby bishops retain a remarkable degree of latitude with regards to political issues. The Vatican exerts a veto power (or more commonly pressure) over the actions of bishops in each diocese when it is clear that the bishop is violating dogma. The opinions rendered by national organizations such as UCCB carry no formal authority over individual dioceses.
There are some conservative bishops (but sadly no enough) that actually get it. Some bishops have even opposed efforts of the politically formidable CCHD (Catholic Campaign for Human Development). The CCHD has numerous connections to Alinsky inspired organizations (such as IAF) and other radical illegal immigration support groups. The Catholic Church in the US has had ties with the Left in a significant way since the 60s.
I believe that if the Catholic Church does not quickly and thoroughly re-evaluate its role in supporting Leftist organizations, we will certainly see more devout parishioners dropping out and the money drying up. This has the real potential to be more problematic for the Church than the priest sex abuse scandal.


18 posted on 09/12/2010 7:33:56 PM PDT by grumpygresh (Democrats delenda est)
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To: sayuncledave

It’s rich even for Rats to suggest the gummit is in any condition to tell who has “good moral character” without tying itself in knots in the attempt.

If a youth in question is adamantly against gay marriage, for instance, is this grounds to chuck him out, or to keep him, or a matter of indifference?


19 posted on 09/12/2010 9:04:51 PM PDT by HiTech RedNeck (I am in America but not of America (per bible: am in the world but not of it))
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To: GinaLolaB
"THE CATHOLICS ARE NOT BRINGING IN THE ILLEGALS. THE PROTESTANT FARMERS OUT WEST HAVE ALWAYS HAD A “TASTE FOR SLAVES”. THEY WANT THEM TO WORK ON THEIR RANCHES FOR VERY LITTLE WAGES."

And you seem to want to start your own thread .. here?

Maybe you just meant to say .."Bush's Fault". 8)

20 posted on 09/12/2010 9:11:14 PM PDT by plinyelder ("I've noticed that everybody that is for abortion has already been born." -- Ronald Reagan)
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