Posted on 09/13/2010 8:40:02 PM PDT by Kabud
According to the posts in the reference article, All 3 men arrested at the power plant were most likely Muslims:
Nail Idiatullin, one of the Russians has a variation of a turk name Idia-tallah, “a cognate form of Allah in Russian.”
Rustem Ibragimov, another Russian, whose first name is ‘a Russian cognate of the Muslim name Rustam or “Brave Fighter”. His last name, Ibragimov, is a Russified form of the Muslim “descended from Ibrihim”’
Evgeniy Luzhetskiy, from Kazahkastan where 65% of the population is Muslim.
Ruski admitted after Luinev testimony that they in fact did smuggle nukes in the past : i know it for a fact.
general Lebed also testified much to that effect
so...
you fantasize about muslims: NOT TRUE
how do you determine religion affiliation and from WHAT?
homo soveticus are atheists.
Nail Idiatullin, Rustem Ibragimov - names sounds central asian but are most likely FAKE
to MAKE YOU THINK ABOUT AL QUEDA
this is KREMLIN ALIBI!!!!!!!!!
Evgeniy Luzhetskiy - 100% slavic
Heh heh!
Always interesting when that happens!
A compelling conspiracy, but I’m curious why the Russians would have interest in causing such a disaster. No doubt US Intelligence would determine any culpability, and they’d be held accountable.
Only to tease the conspiracy angle, what impact would this alleged incident have on the November elections if it were executed to completion?
IMO this was a test run,,,
Most likely ragheads,,,
I guess we’ll find out the hard way...
:(
how many OTHER runs we never detect
how many OTHER runs we never learn about
hom many other spies we never catch
..
Obama is The commander in Chief. I try to not comment regarding him. No matter what -
he was elected and bares The legitimacy of The Vote.
Wise decision in these uncertain days, to be sure.
But the post about releasing Russian spies and how it emboldens the Russian government to send more spies or agents of espionage really hits home.
Anyone who is an enemy of the United States had to realize that we are totally vulnerable and open to attack at any time, almost without consequences.
These guys were lost is all, they were supposed to be sabotaging a power plant in Georgia the country.
The southern border is wide open for the most part,,,
Pick a number,,,
Even got Mexican(Mi-17 Russian) choppers on this side
of the border,,,
I think that area will be a full blown war soon...
Thank you for the ping Future Useless Eater.
Thank you for the ping Captain Beyond.
Thank you for the ping Gene Eric.
http://rt.com/prime-time/2010-07-12/moscow-bomb-shelters-outskirts.html
Moscow arms against nuclear attack
Published 12 July, 2010, 21:42
Nearly 5,000 new emergency bomb shelters will be built in Moscow by 2012 to save people in case of potential attacks.
Moscow authorities say the measure is urgent as the shelters currently available in the city can house no more that half of its population.
(I have been wondering if this could be true, do you know? Thanks!)
At one time gold was confiscated and no one did anything about it. Very passive, we Americans. Between the Chinese 1000 years plan to rule the world and the Muslin plan to eventually convert every world citizen to their faith or kill’em and Iran going nuclear and Russia holding natural resources for ransom, it is all going to get very interest around here esp. when the banking system collapses.
Now, that is not true. They do not have '100s of thousands of tons of biological' weapons. The ironic thing is that there is no need to exaggerate what they have. Russia has the most advanced bio-weapons program in the globe (and probably the largest ...although there is no telling what nations like North Korea, Pakistan, Israel, Libya, Iran, and in particular, China, have ....but definitely the Russian program is the most advanced). Unlike other types of weapons, one does not need '100s of thousands of tons' when it comes to advanced bio-weaponry. One just needs enough for a specific number of warheads. These are not the 50s where Anthrax was the big boogieman wiggling in the attic! Some of the babies that have been churned up in vats are true Gehenna-causing-scenarios. As the character in Training Day (Denzel Washington's character) would say, they are 'walking Apocalypses.'
A recombinant virus, say the work that Alibek claimed was been done on Ebola and Marburg virii, which are a nasty set of hemmorhagic fevers that, in essence, turn you into an oozing sack of bio-matter where you bleed from every orifice, would do havoc if it struck a major city. With global transport being how it is (I am in Nairobi Kenya now ....I can eat dinner in New York TODAY) the spread-effects would be huge.
Then there is the dread granddaddy of all ...Smallpox, in particular the weaponized blackpox variants Vektor in Russia was working on. Considering the last time mass immunizations were done was 30 years ago (and that immunity is either negated, or at least degraded), then even normal smallpox would be bad. Weaponized 'enhanced' is a killer scenario.
Unlike nuclear weapons (and chemical weapons), biological weaponry is a true monster. It cannot be controlled. It can spread FAR beyond the target locus (please google and read 'Demon in the Freezer ....it is about how hard it was to eradicate smallpox, as well as the weaponized versions of it. If you cannot find it I will send it to you once I get home). A nuclear weapon, even a 'dirty' cobalt bomb with enhanced radioactive fallout, and even with strong prevalent winds, does not have the potential spread radius of a simple teaspoon of virulent smallpox released in a commercial hub (e.g. Tokyo, Dallas, Cairo, Cape Town ...a release in Nairobi would be affecting the States, Western Europe, and Asia in 30 hours. A release in Tokyo even faster ....you do know most flu virii start in China and spread globally).
Anyways, Russia has a formidable bio-weapons program. But it is not 100,000s of tons.
Furthermore, if the US re-started its biological program, that would be the most stupid act in decades! You do not harbor such a monster on native soil. Furthermore, the nuclear weapons the US has are more than sufficient to handle any Russian threat (although, Russia will be an ally to the US in the near future. The main foe nations for the US are China and Pakistan. Not even Iran ...China and Pakistan. Any nuke that goes off in the US will be Pakistani in origin, not Russian. It will be smuggled in, not shot via ICBM. Pakistani, not Ruskie). If more is needed, then more nuclear warheads can be brought to bear. However ...restarting the bio-weapons program. Pure anathema! If chemical weapons are a capable imp, and nuclear weapons a powerful genie, then bio weapons are a powerful but insanely rabid genie with its nads on fire! You do not want a bio-weapons facility that is working on recombinant virii or the like (e.g. the Ebola/Marburg work, work on superflu super-combinants, or ofcourse Mr Dreadgrandaddy Smallpox) in the same CONTINENT that you are in. And even then, with modern travel, you'd better be isolated in the Gobi or kalahari deserts!
I wish I was exaggerating.
please see my response (159) to Kabud on the US having bio weapons. Thanks
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