Skip to comments.Russian SPETSNAZ arrested at powerplant by I-95 possibly with a tactical nuke?
Posted on 09/13/2010 8:40:02 PM PDT by Kabud
This is the original news report from SPRINGFIELD, Effingham County in Georgia, next to the entrance of I-95 to Florida.
Effingham deputies call feds after arresting Russians with shovel, wire cutters outside Georgia Power plant
by Evgeniy Luzhetskiy
SPRINGFIELD Effingham County sheriff deputies have reported the early Sunday morning arrest of three men to the federal Joint Terrorism Task Force.
The men, two from Russia and one from Kazakhstan, were found near Georgia Powers Plant McIntosh on Old Augusta Road about 1 a.m. Sunday after a ranger with the Department of Natural Resources reported a suspicious vehicle, Effingham County sheriffs spokesman David Ehsanipoor said.
Deputies reported the men, who were inside a 1995 Nissan Pathfinder, had a machete, shovel, wire cutters and ski masks. One man also had black silk stockings in his front left pocket.
Arrested were Evgeniy Luzhetskiy, of Kazakhastan Nail Idiatullin and Rustem Ibragimov of Russia. All three reported they lived in Charleston, S.C., deputies reported.
The men were all charged with possession of tools during the commission of a crime.
The three were released after being interviewed by task force members, Ehsanipoor said.
"They did all have visas that allowed them to be here and are supposed to be leaving the country soon."
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By karkas1 | 09/10/10 - 07:47 pm these people are not amish also there are not jews Their ethnic background is one Russian, possibly Christian, and two others Russian Caucasians, possibly Muslims; however this background stuff does not matter, because their true religion is Communism and ethnically there are Marxists - these people don't have motherland, but there are willing to possess the whole Earth. And America is the only country which is an obstacle on their way; so tehre are ready for everything to ruin it.
By karkas1 | 09/10/10 - 07:40 pm You just caught three very dangerous Russian diversants and you are going to let them go?! Do you know what will happen next? Let me explain you. Their bosses back in Moscow will see that it is totally OK to send their agents to the US to set up various attacks against Americans. In case if these agents are caught, there is no punishment for them and in the worst case these agents will be sent back home, as it was done a couple of months ago to the guys from a spy ring, and as it is going to be done now. It means, that in the future you will have to expect tens of thousands of Russians who will be setting up various diversions on you sensitive objects, and even if catch some of them, others will do the job! If you want my advise what to do with these guys - here it is: put them to jail for at least 10 years. Next time they should be scared to go to America with bad intentions. Yet, BTW, Russians will respect you more.
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By Kabud | 09/12/10 - 04:43 am
Setting up one of these devices is complicated. The bombs need a small amount of power to keep them safely in storage. For example, the GRU specialist might have to run a very small wire to an electrical source, such as a power wire, and then attach it to the weapon. The wires can be run as far as one hundred yards or more from the weapon. The wires are small enough that they would easily break if someone tampered with them or tried to follow them to their source. In case there is a loss of power, there is a battery
Nuclear devices can also be slipped across the Mexican or Canadian borders. It is easy to get a bomb to Cuba and from there transport it to Mexico. Usually the devices are carried by a Russian intelligence officer or a trusted agent. If a Russian intelligence officer was for some reason not involved, the human missile transporting the device would be killed after safely handing it over to a GRU specialist. This is a simple security precaution.
2. Spetsnaz fighting shovel.
The common Soviet/Russian entrenching tool. Sharp on three sides, a single monolithic object, unlike the current American entrenching tool. Used by Spetsnaz soldiers as a fighting weapon, silent, and in the right hands, downright deadly.
"In a combat training of Spetsnaz soldiers a great attention is paid to their ability to engage in hand-to-hand combat and to use hand-held weapon . . . an entrenching shovel is of special importance . . . it is a formidable weapon of the close combat."
"the entrenching shovel is an excellent throwing implement - the range of aimed throw made by a well-trained specialist is 10 meters or more."
A weapon used as a hand-to-hand fighting tool, and, WHEN USED IN THE RIGHT HANDS, A THROWING WEAPON ALSO!
Again - - from Suvorov:
"In the hands of a spetsnaz soldier the spade is a terrible noiseless weapon . . . The little spade can be used in hand-to-hand fighting against blows from a bayonet, a knife, a fist or another spade . . . Finally a soldier is taught to throw the spade as accurately as he would use a sword or a battle axe . . . As it spins in flight [the spade has] accuracy and thrust. It becomes a terrifying weapon. If it lands in a tree it is not so easy to pull out again."
Here, thanks to the Russian web site: "Entrenching Shovel in Close Combat. Version of Spetsnaz GRU. Basic Fighting Technique." you can see video clips of Alexander Popov [???], demonstrating the fighting shovel combat technique.
You see a lot of twirls, pirouettes, jumps, etc. Ballet-like in form??!! This is characteristic of Russian style martial arts? Russian All-round Fighting [RAF] DOES emphasize Russian folk dance as a basis for many martial arts "moves"!? An indigenously developed Russian close-quarters-combat fighting form that is very effective!?
I would ask the question too, HOW OFTEN WOULD SUCH WEAPONS BE EMPLOYED?
Martial arts as taught to special operations units the world over are obviously useful, to say the least, but how often used? I would think very rarely, if at all?
Such martial arts techniques are more than anything else an excellent way of developing physical fitness, building confidence, instilling aggressiveness, AND OF COURSE - - PERHAPS KILLING AN AMERICAN SENTRY - - NOISELESSLY - - WITH A KNIFE OR A SHOVEL!!
An even more frightful weapon is a spade in the hands of a skilled fighter. It was with the Soviet Army spade that we began this book. Ways of using it are one of the dramatic elements of sambo. A spetsnaz soldier can kill people with a spade at a distance of several metres as easily, freely and silently as with a P-6 gun.
Lunev asserted that some of the hidden caches could contain portable tactical nuclear weapons known as RA-115 "suitcase bombs". Such bombs have been prepared to assassinate US leaders in the event of war, according to him  Lunev states that he had personally looked for hiding places for weapons caches in the Shenandoah Valley area and that "it is surprisingly easy to smuggle nuclear weapons into the US, either across the Mexican border or using a small transport missile that can slip undetected when launched from a Russian airplane 
God Bless USA
From Kabud | 09/12/10 - 01:37 pm http://losangeles.fbi.gov/pressrel/pressrel10/la051810.htm The FBI is coordinating a training exercise among multiple government and law enforcement organizations at the national and local level, to exercise response capabilities relative to a terrorist attack involving an improvised nuclear device. The exercise will take place Monday, May 17th through Wednesday, May 19th.
But mind that there is no such thing as `homemade nuke`. ON the other hand a suitecase device is a real one. So it is all just double speak.
From New York Times article published on 04/16/2010
Intelligence officials feared that bomb parts might be delivered in diplomatic mail pouches, carried by international air travelers in their luggage or delivered by boat or submarine to an isolated beach.
Communist agents already in the country might then assemble, plant and detonate the weapons. “Surveillance of all Communist Party members and sympathizers is impossible and impractical since numerically they exceed by many times the total Special Agent force of the F.B.I.,” a bureau memo complained. J. Edgar Hoover, the F.B.I. director, who was intensely focused on the smuggling threat, proposed increasing manpower to cope.
Among many potential nuclear saboteurs, F.B.I. field offices identified the proprietor of a left-wing bookstore in Seattle, a reporter for the Soviet news agency Tass and even a representative of the American Council for a Democratic Greece.
When the Polish consul to Detroit arrived in the United States in the mid-1950s with four big boxes, F.B.I. agents surreptitiously searched them for nuclear material. They found 24 bottles of cherry cordial but “no article or part thereof that could be construed as a portion of a weapon of mass destruction,” their secret report solemnly declared.
Security officials later speculated about whether China might set off a smuggled nuke in the United States and make it look like a Soviet attack, provoking devastating war between its rivals. Later, as portable tactical nuclear weapons proliferated in both Eastern and Western Europe, there were periodic alarms about their security.
In the 1950s the United States knew its adversaries had weapons; the mystery was whether they might use them. Today, said Jeffrey T. Richelson, a historian of nuclear weapons, the situation is reversed: Qaeda leaders have suggested publicly that they would use a nuclear weapon, “but as far as we know, Al Qaeda hasn’t even come close to building a bomb.”
(Excerpt) Read more at http://www.nytimes.com/2010/04/16/world/16memo.html
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Russian suitcase nukes
In 1997, former Russian National Security Advisor Alexander Lebed made public claims about lost “suitcase nukes” following the dissolution of the Soviet Union. In an interview with the newsmagazine 60 Minutes, Lebed said:
I’m saying that more than a hundred weapons out of the supposed number of 250 are not under the control of the armed forces of Russia. I don’t know their location. I don’t know whether they have been destroyed or whether they are stored or whether they’ve been sold or stolen, I don’t know.
However, the Russian government immediately rejected Lebed’s claims. Russia’s Ministry for Atomic Energy went so far as to dispute that suitcase nuclear weapons had even ever been developed by the Soviet Union. Later testimony however insinuated that the suitcase bombs had been under the control of the KGB and not the army or the atomic energy ministry, so they might not know of their existence. Russian president Vladimir Putin, in an interview with Barbara Walters in 2001, stated about suitcase nukes, “I don’t really believe this is true. These are just legends. One can probably assume that somebody tried to sell some nuclear secrets. But there is no documentary confirmation of those developments.”
The highest-ranking GRU defector Stanislav Lunev claimed that such Russian-made devices do exist and described them in more detail. These devices, “identified as RA-115s (or RA-115-01s for submersible weapons)” weigh from fifty to sixty pounds. They can last for many years if wired to an electric source. In case there is a loss of power, there is a battery backup. If the battery runs low, the weapon has a transmitter that sends a coded messageeither by satellite or directly to a GRU post at a Russian embassy or consulate. According to Lunev, the number of “missing” nuclear devices (as found by General Lebed) “is almost identical to the number of strategic targets upon which those bombs would be used.”
Lunev suggested that suitcase nukes might be already deployed by the GRU operatives at the US soil to assassinate US leaders in the event of war. He alleged that arms caches were hidden by the KGB in many countries for the planned terrorism acts. They were booby-trapped with “Lightning” explosive devices. One of such cache, which was identified by Vasili Mitrokhin, exploded when Swiss authorities tried to remove it from woods near Berne. Several others caches were removed successfully. Lunev said that he had personally looked for hiding places for weapons caches in the Shenandoah Valley area and that “it is surprisingly easy to smuggle nuclear weapons into the US” either across the Mexican border or using a small transport missile that can slip undetected when launched from a Russian airplane. US Congressman Curt Weldon supported claims by Lunev but noted that Lunev had “exaggerated things” according to the FBI. Searches of the areas identified by Lunev have been conducted, “but law-enforcement officials have never found such weapons caches, with or without portable nuclear weapons.”
Holy crap. After reading all that, I feel like sitting and downing an entire bottle of Vodka.
This attack by Russians and Kazakhs at a nuclear power plant makes me very suspicious.
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vodka- is exactly the thing that may get you killed
drunk people cant think straight
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“The three were released after being interviewed by task force members”
Nothing to see here.
They weren’t burning any Korans, so there is no crime here.
This sounds like three Mooses to me. Islamoterrorism, not Rooskie-sponsored pranks, and they probably didn’t have any bomb at all but were just going through the motions to create, well, what terrorists create. Terror.
On the uber remote chance this were true, there is no way in hell our government would ever let this news cat out of the bag.
WTF? Is this some DEBKA/WND crap or the real thing?
While I am HIGHLY skeptical of all the kookery in this post... I am not pleased with the level of Russian activity and the slap on the writs letting them go. We need to execute spies. This is the only signal they will understand. If you are a spy, you die. End of debate. Or we hold them forever and trade them for any of our spies. After interrogation, of course.
I think he was kidding.
well, what if the news is not exactly all the truth
what if those three were watched for a looong time....
Russian “special forces” being arrested by county deputies...??
Sounds like you got some anti-semite commie symps inside the wire there in Georgia. Root ‘em out. Send ‘em packin’. ;-)
you are someone:
kookery in your view comes from everywhere: Ruski Generals, prominent spies who came to our side, renown historians
i have a very grounded suspicion abput people who maek statements like RachelFaith
This seems possible, though conjectural. My own thought was that these might well be Muslims from Russia. As I recall, one of them was from Kazakhstan.
It is certainly extremely curious—and troubling—that they were simply let go, without a good deal of questioning and investigation first. I thought that clinton’s Justice Department was bad, but Obama’s is even worse. Eric Holder makes Janet Reno look pretty good.
what if you try to give it some thought:
a dry run to test power plant security
USA HLS are highly professional
spetsnaz soldiers make mistakes: young, not here long enopugh
THINK: thats a very exciting endeavor !
Yes YOU CAN!
russians are not muslim they are atheist communists
use your brains
call the county sheriff in georgia.
simple as that
Soviet citizens were encouraged to help cultivate Kazakhstan's northern pastures. This influx of immigrants (mostly Russians, but also some other deported nationalities) skewed the ethnic mixture and enabled non-Kazakhs to outnumber natives. Independence in 1991 caused many of these newcomers to emigrate. Kazakhstan's economy is larger than those of all the other Central Asian states combined largely due to the country's vast natural resources and a recent history of political stability. Current issues include: developing a cohesive national identity; expanding the development of the country's vast energy resources and exporting them to world markets; achieving a sustainable economic growth; diversifying the economy outside the oil, gas, and mining sectors; enhancing Kazakhstan's competitiveness; and strengthening relations with neighboring states and other foreign powers.
Muslim 47%, Russian Orthodox 44%, Protestant 2%, other 7%
soviet spetsnaz ARE NOT russian or kazakh
names are fake
communists never have a religion or ethnicity
spetsnaz get special training that cleans their brains of EVERYTHING
It seems rather obvious they were saboteurs and should have been tried and then executed.
you have NO idea about soviet life (((
i was born there and spent over 30 years
try to learn the truth.
Kazakhstan pasport is a FAKE
GRU operates with FAKE identities
o my God Amnericans are naive like hell
this will get many people killed((((((
and im skeptical that 3 Spetsnaz men on a mission would meekly surrender to a county deputy, or a game warden.
i would like them to be watched like they are double al Queda:
on their way home, every minute
then have them arrested befopre they leave USA
and then: i would like to follow Your recomendation of course
that is exactly what they are instructed to do by kremlin
now public is told thats they are nobodies just been there
it is possible they were testing security
don’t forget the Russian numbers station that came out with a new message the other week. What a great place to set off a nuke, right beside a nuke power plant. the left would go nuts and we would have to shut them all down.
SO true,,, a commando, on a mission,,, carrying his true passport! lol
good point,,, if a nuke ever went off at a power plant, nobady could convince the public that it wasn’t an accident at the plant.
it is MORE
if ruski take out THAT plant
they also destroy i-95
then Florida is CUT OFF!!!!!!!
East coast electric grid may go OFF for ..God may be for weeks if not more
IT IS AN END TO USA as we know it
If God forbid..
it will be most lokely followed by MORE attacks:
a weak USA becomes a easy pray for Castro, Chavez, Chinese and of course:
ruski strategioc rocket forces(about 4 times more nukes then USA)
and ANTHRAX, dont forget THAT it was also russian
I’m not going to pretend to be an expert on something I’m not, namely how the Soviet Union worked. Let’s just assume your theory is correct. It is suprising that this story has not ‘grown legs’ after four days.
The question I have is why?
Plant McIntosh is a coal-fired steam plant, not a nuclear plant.
Those guys look awfully young.
Looks can be deceiving I guess, but they certainly don’t look like Spetsnaz to me.
it is no theory. I was an officer trained in USSR as a programmer for anti ballistic missile forces, in early 80s.
Legs? u kidding! savannah.com deleted a comment that was ne York Times article from april 2010
people are sheep...... thay will face their maker if they dont change their ways
i studied their faces. All 3 are very intelligent for a soviet types. I can tell that. Young: well, they draft at 18, so at 20 spetsnaz commando is fully ready
Which station was it?
If so, are they really operational? I've read that they would have become useless by now due to radioactive destruction of the key electronics.
As to Russian or ex-Soviet involvement, who would benefit and why from such a demolition? Follow the money and power.
this is IMPORTANT
same antisemitic stuff is spread around in Ukraine
for the same reason:
ruski want to ignite xenophobia so we will be fighting each other but not THE ENEMY
Antesemitism is a precursor to anti americanizm
it is a method to provoke world war 3
it was exactly Stalin plan to provoke USA in early 50s but some people poisoned Stalin as you know : they did not want the war then
but now ruski fell that they have a strategic advantage :
ruski have biological weapons: we DONT
ruski have 4 times more nukes then USA
ruski have chemical weapons we dont
ruski have Al Queda, HAMNAS, Hesbollah etc
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Well, this is weird.
Early this year I had a dream that I was in Atlanta.
While I was there, a nuclear bomb detonated in the city.
In my dream, I was not hurt, but I witnessed the fireball.
I also saw a second nuke detonate at a nearby train station, incinerating the trains and nearby buildings.
In my dream, the attacks were blamed on the Russians.
Thanks, Obama, for weakening America. 2012 can’t come fast enough.
Russian officials confirmed in mid 90s to USA gov
IT WAS WHAT THEY DID
Ah, probably not.
First, Georgia only has two nuclear plants - one in Baxley, and one in Waynesboro - neither are anywhere near where these men were arrested.
Second, I went to school to be an economist and a lawyer, and even with my embarrassingly limited understanding of physics, I know enough to understand that nuclear power plants don't "blow up". Even with a massive conventional explosion inside the reactor chamber, there is not NEARLY enough fissile material at a nuclear plant for it to "blow up". The laws of physics dictate that there need be a certain quantity of fissile material available to reach critical mass, and that quantity far exceeds what is found in ANY nuclear power plant. You could have a huge "dirty bomb", but you could not have a "nuclear explosion".
If we live in a country that educates people so poorly that they believe nuclear power plants can "blow-up" (like thermonuclear warhead), we have MUCH BIGGER problems than Al Qeada, because we clearly would have a country of imbeciles.
USA is the only obstacle to China-Russian domination
You got to read and watch ruski TV:
mostly ALL ruski politicians talk anti american , very intimidating stuff
If USA is weakened: world is tuning to Moscow
they will have us all exterminated
there is no other reason ruski invested around 100 trillion dollars since 1945 in arming themselfs with WMD
They NEVER waste nothing like 100 tril
Does anyone else have a problem with that sentance?
That remains to be seen.
same antisemitic stuff is spread around in Ukraine for the same reason:
I was talking about your description of what's happening on the savannahnow forum.
we are overweight crowd of shoppers
I'm an underweight hermit. I think maybe you're nuts.