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Obama Says “Mexicans” Were Here Long Before the United States Was an Idea (Video)
Gateway Pundit ^ | SEPTEMBER 21, 2010 | Ken Pittman

Posted on 09/21/2010 12:48:37 PM PDT by Hojczyk

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To: Hojczyk; ding_dong_daddy_from_dumas; stephenjohnbanker; DoughtyOne; Gilbo_3; NFHale; Impy; ...
RE :”Barack Obama told the Hispanic Caucus in his speech that “Mexicans” were here in America long before the United States was an idea.

Of course this comment is ridiculous, pandering to illegals, but Obama sees Hispanics his secret to winning 2012. That is behind this 'Dream Act' stuff.

101 posted on 09/21/2010 1:19:47 PM PDT by sickoflibs ("It's not the taxes, the redistribution is the federal spending=tax delayed")
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To: Hojczyk

Okay, if we’re divvying it up on the basis of who was here first — I win. 1585 and already here to greet them. Granted, I’d have to share it with a few hundred thousand other descendants, but I figure the rest of you will have to make other arrangements. Go ahead, Barry. I personally can’t wait for the legal precedent this one sets. We’ve been really nice about sharing, but if we’re gonna’ call dibs, my ancestry trumps most everyone else from the Mississippi East and down through the Carolinas to the Florida border. Spain and France can take Miami and New Orleans and Texas, New Mexico, Arizona, Colorado, California and the Plains Tribes get the Midwest. Looks like the rest of you are pretty much out of luck. Sorry, so bad, so sad. ;-)


102 posted on 09/21/2010 1:20:02 PM PDT by Constitutions Grandchild
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To: WKUHilltopper

“This guy supposedly is educated? I don’t believe it. He’s a vapor.”

Well, just look at his transcripts, if you don’t believe it ...


103 posted on 09/21/2010 1:20:02 PM PDT by jessduntno ("If anybody believes they can increase taxes today, they're out of their mind." -- Mayor Daley)
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To: Unam Sanctam
As I understand it, in 1810 Fr. Hidalgo started the Mexican war of independence, but it wasn't until 1821 that the Spanish finally retreated and Mexico became independent in fact.

A better case can be made that there were Spanish-speaking settlements in parts of what is now the USA, before the USA became a nation, just as there were some Franch-speaking and some Russian-speaking settlements. But small and few. The US southwest was far more Indian than Spanish. The vast, vast majority of Spanish-speaking New Spain colonists lived way south, south of the Sonoran Desert, down in central and southern Mexico.

104 posted on 09/21/2010 1:20:12 PM PDT by Mrs. Don-o ("Arriba, los pobres del mundo/En pie, los esclavos sin pan" -- etc. etc.)
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To: Hojczyk

El Bozo likes the method of conquest used by the Albanian Muslims. They came into Serbia and squatted by the thousands, bred like rabbits, declared the land theirs, and when Serbia finally tried to evict them, Bill Clinton bombed the Serbians and gave the land to the squatters.
CA, NM, AZ don’t have a very bright future. Since Texans own approximately 10,000,000 guns, they have a fighting chance.


105 posted on 09/21/2010 1:20:22 PM PDT by kittymyrib
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To: Hojczyk

“Long before America was even an idea, this land of plenty was home to many peoples. The British and French, the Dutch and Spanish, to Mexicans, to countless Indian tribes. We all shared the same land.”

If I may be so bold as to edit Obammy’s remarks.
Long before America was even an idea, this land of plenty was occupied by many peoples who all tried to drive each other out. The British, French, Dutch, Spanish, and countless Indian tribes all butchered each other so that they would own the land and not have to share it with the others.”


106 posted on 09/21/2010 1:21:00 PM PDT by Hacklehead (Note to Leftists- We Will Bury You (politically)
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To: Ronald_Magnus
Unfortunately Obama's errors fool many of his supporters quite easily.



Or how about Obama's bold-faced lie that a 1965 event put into motion airline tickets for young Africans, causing Obama's daddy to meet Obama's mommy and have him born - 4 years EARLIER in 1961? Even snake oil salesmen would be too ashamed to try THAT ONE.

OBAMA'S PARENTS HAD A TIME MACHINE!!!!!!!!!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E7QxgN5YegE
107 posted on 09/21/2010 1:21:35 PM PDT by F15Eagle (1 John 5:4-5, 4:15, 5:13; John 3:17-18, 6:69, 11:25, 14:6, 20:31; Rom10:8-11; 1 Tim 2:5; Titus 3:4-5)
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To: Wuli
...he is...hoping the American news reporters and a majority of the American public is ignorant.

I think he's on firm ground with that hope, unfortunately.

108 posted on 09/21/2010 1:21:42 PM PDT by Paine in the Neck (Napolean fries the idea powder.)
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To: dirtboy
Obama Says “Mexicans” Were Here Long Before the United States Was an Idea

What a supremely scary ignorant comment.

Obama has not the first clue here.

109 posted on 09/21/2010 1:24:33 PM PDT by dragnet2
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To: Czar

I had hoped that at some point his citizenship qualification would be revealed to be non-existent. He could then be deemed to have never been qualified, and all of his activity could be scrubbed from our government.

He could then be tried for fraud.

The fact that this guy remains in a position of power with this level of incompetence, and I would even say intentional harm to the nation, is so unacceptable. It has basically destroyed my perception that our government was somewhat valid.

It isn’t any longer. Obama is a fraud, Congress is looking the other way, and our nation is in jeopardy due to this.


110 posted on 09/21/2010 1:25:32 PM PDT by DoughtyOne (All hail Prince Skid-mark, Barack Hussein Obama, constantly soiling himself and our nation.)
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To: Hojczyk

The Mexicans were sitting around here waiting for somebody to get around to inventing Mexico so they’d have somewhere to fit in.


111 posted on 09/21/2010 1:26:28 PM PDT by dead (I've got my eye out for Mullah Omar.)
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To: atc23
I still think that the day "we" elected him was the day the Earth returned to it's proper axis, the seas began to recede and a light shone down on us from the heavenly ramparts.

That's the spirit!

Now, the repeat the following:

LIBERAL CREED

We believe in one spender,
The Government, the Almighty,
Stimulator in times of great distress.
We Believe in Obama,
Only son of a Kansas girl.
Conceived out of wedlock
By the power of young love
Born nearly fifty years ago.
He can do no wrong.
We believe in the Holy Congress,
Giver of all life,
From whom all blessings flow.
Powered by the Federal Reserve,
And the eminences of the Supreme Court,
These great ones worshiped and glorified.
Shall spend us to prosperity now and forever.
Amen.
... and then Obozo will truly be a happy Wee Wee.
112 posted on 09/21/2010 1:27:30 PM PDT by Zakeet (Like the wise Wee Wee said, "We can't be broke ... we still have checks in the checkbook.")
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To: Mrs. Don-o
Look, the folks who were migratory had basically settled where they were going to stay. If people who were not among those who asked to become states are now going to allege that they somehow were excluded from the vote, I'm saying that simply isn't true. The people who settled in the SW and SE “applied” to be states. They met a long list of requirements to become states. For those who are unhappy now, it's a wee bit late to be bringing it up. We didn't force Texas, Arizona or New Mexico or Colorado or California to become states. They tried very hard to qualify to BECOME states. This is such a specious and bogus argument.

If anyone wants to give North America back to the Native Americans, fine. You'll see just how serious my Native American Ancestors were about border enforcement. Had they had the immunities, gun powder and cannons, we wouldn't be having this discussion.

113 posted on 09/21/2010 1:27:54 PM PDT by Constitutions Grandchild
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To: Hojczyk

Law is based on historical precedence. Once again we see that he, The Ornery One, doesn’t know anything about history. But he does know the communist philosophy which says that history is to be revised in order to beat down the masses and forward your, (the dictator’s) life and power!


114 posted on 09/21/2010 1:28:44 PM PDT by Young Werther ("Quae cum ita sunt" Since these things are so!)
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To: dirtboy
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5. "Ridicule is man's most potent weapon. It is almost impossible to counteract ridicule. Also it infuriates the opposition, which then reacts to your advantage." Saul Alinsky, “Rules for Radicals” (Obozo’s playbook)


115 posted on 09/21/2010 1:30:00 PM PDT by Dick Bachert (The upcoming election is the most important in our lifetimes!!! BE THERE!!!!!!!)
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To: Hojczyk
Obama Says “Mexicans” Were Here Long Before the United States Was an Idea (Video)

Obama is about as accurate on this 'history' as he is on all his other 'history'. Mexico became an independent nation roughly around 1821. So there were no Mexicans in present day Mexico before then, just descendants of various native tribes and Spaniards and mixed-race people who lived in the Spanish Empire.

116 posted on 09/21/2010 1:31:11 PM PDT by Will88
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To: RexBeach
Leif Erickson was here first, too.

And so was

Monolito and Victoria!

117 posted on 09/21/2010 1:31:35 PM PDT by BerryDingle (I know how to deal with communists, I still wear their scars on my back from Hollywood-Ronald Reagan)
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To: Hojczyk

I wonder what book he found that information in?


118 posted on 09/21/2010 1:34:12 PM PDT by tillacum
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To: Hojczyk

To think this horse’s patootie is considered smart. What a fraud.


119 posted on 09/21/2010 1:34:23 PM PDT by IrishCatholic (No local Communist or Socialist Party Chapter? Join the Democrats, it's the same thing!)
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To: Hojczyk

A Harvard education just ain’t what it used to be...
ain’t what it used to be...
ain’t what it used to be...


120 posted on 09/21/2010 1:34:28 PM PDT by nolongerademocrat ("Before you ask G-d for something, first thank G-d for what you already have." B'rachot 30b)
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To: Hojczyk
Report: "Barack Obama told the Hispanic Caucus in his speech that “Mexicans” were here in America long before the United States was an idea."

Response: Therefore my fellow Americans of the Southwest prepare to return to your Mexican roots.

121 posted on 09/21/2010 1:35:23 PM PDT by AEMILIUS PAULUS (It is a shame that when these people give a riot)
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To: Hojczyk
Long before America was even an idea, this land of plenty was home to many peoples. The British and French, the Dutch and Spanish, to Mexicans, to countless Indian tribes. We all shared the same land.

Oh! Well, let's erase our borders and let in the whole world, then!

122 posted on 09/21/2010 1:40:30 PM PDT by Nea Wood (Silly liberal . . . paychecks are for workers!)
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To: Constitutions Grandchild
I think some of this must have gotten edited out by mistake: it's not clear to me what happened in 1585.

Could you read that over and maybe supply more about your ancestry? It's interesting!

Thanks for your good remarks.

123 posted on 09/21/2010 1:40:36 PM PDT by Mrs. Don-o ("Arriba, los pobres del mundo/En pie, los esclavos sin pan" -- etc. etc.)
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To: dragnet2

Or he’s lying through his teeth to gain political and financial support from another band of willing useful idiots.

Yet again...


124 posted on 09/21/2010 1:41:00 PM PDT by F15Eagle (1 John 5:4-5, 4:15, 5:13; John 3:17-18, 6:69, 11:25, 14:6, 20:31; Rom10:8-11; 1 Tim 2:5; Titus 3:4-5)
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To: Hojczyk
Barack Obama told the Hispanic Caucus in his speech that “Mexicans” were here in America long before the United States was an idea.

What a dolt! Pure pandering.
Does he never tire of embarrassing himself with his absolute ignorance?

125 posted on 09/21/2010 1:41:00 PM PDT by philman_36 (Pride breakfasted with plenty, dined with poverty, and supped with infamy. Benjamin Franklin)
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To: sickoflibs

I agree. No doubt...


126 posted on 09/21/2010 1:41:12 PM PDT by DoughtyOne (All hail Prince Skid-mark, Barack Hussein Obama, constantly soiling himself and our nation.)
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To: DoughtyOne
"Obama is a fraud, Congress and the Judiciary are is looking the other way, and our nation is in jeopardy due to this.

Thus, if I may, amplify your well composed thoughts. Accordingly, we must conclude that all three branches of our federal government have failed the citizens of the United States, have failed to honor their oaths of office, and are a complete and total disgrace by any standard applied. All are an abject embarrassment to the offices they dishonor.

127 posted on 09/21/2010 1:41:25 PM PDT by Czar (NRA Life Member)
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To: Hojczyk

Is he signing the deed over or what? Why doesn’t this idiot just move there.


128 posted on 09/21/2010 1:43:27 PM PDT by Scythian
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To: Hojczyk

Remember the Alamo?

No really, does he remember the whole Texas Independence thing? Does he recall that we went to War with Mexico. And we kicked their ass?

My God, this guy is such a dope.


129 posted on 09/21/2010 1:44:04 PM PDT by Vermont Lt (I lived in VT for four years. That was enough.)
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To: Patriot777
...he doesn’t know crap.
I strongly disagree with your assertion. I've never known anybody who handles BS better.
130 posted on 09/21/2010 1:44:42 PM PDT by philman_36 (Pride breakfasted with plenty, dined with poverty, and supped with infamy. Benjamin Franklin)
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To: Vermont Lt

In all reality America was an idea in the 1500’s, Obama is dumb, honestly


131 posted on 09/21/2010 1:44:59 PM PDT by Scythian
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To: F15Eagle
Or how about Obama's bold-faced lie that a 1965 event put into motion airline tickets for young Africans, causing Obama's daddy to meet Obama's mommy and have him born - 4 years EARLIER in 1961? Even snake oil salesmen would be too ashamed to try THAT ONE.

Actually, I hadn't heard that one. I have seen him revise history to place muslims in America at a very early point, and that is a tactic that is SOP for the muslims. But there is another aspect of muslims and time, and that is exactly this idiot approach. I have run across it several times when talking to jihadis. It goes like this:

- Event A happens in the middle east, say, in 1980. Some random Arab idiocy.
- Event B happens somewhere in the West, say London 2005.
- 2008: Muslim claims event A was caused by event B.

These people have a problem with time. With what emerged the other day about the Arabic language having a physical impact on the brain, we will probably see that islam is a physical pathology.

132 posted on 09/21/2010 1:47:35 PM PDT by Hardraade (I want gigaton warheads now!!)
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Perhaps one of you American history buffs can correct me, but weren’t all lands west of the Mississippi “purchased” either from France or Spain? The key phrase there is “purchased”, as in bought and paid for. I fail to see how Spanish speaking Mexicans can have any issue with lands that were purchased.


133 posted on 09/21/2010 1:47:45 PM PDT by CanaGuy (Go Harper!)
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To: gundog
if the French came hat in hand saying they wanted the Louisiana Purchase back, I think he’d give it to ‘em.

Indeed he would. And the southern portion of Arizona was PURCHASED from the Governor of Mexico at the time. It was called the Gadsden Purchase. So the whole "you stole it concept" is pretty much BS. ANd I can't remember the name of the US general who was sent to quell the Apache uprisings in that area who said something like, "We should go to war with Mexico to make them take it back."

Mexico didn't want Arizona at the time and were glad to be rid of it.

134 posted on 09/21/2010 1:48:10 PM PDT by ponygirl (TEA people: First we take out the RINOS. Then we finish off the Socialists.)
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To: Hojczyk

Back then they must have all been immigrating to that 57th state.


135 posted on 09/21/2010 1:49:05 PM PDT by SparkyBass
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To: Hojczyk

Has the Kenyan ever heard of “New Spain”?

http://www.worldstatesmen.org/Mexico_spanish_provinces.html


136 posted on 09/21/2010 1:49:39 PM PDT by rdl6989 (January 20, 2013- The end of an error.)
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To: I cannot think of a name
Berry makes a lot of stupid mistakes for someone who is suppose to be a scholar. I bet there's a good reason he won't release any of his college work or his grades. Berry is a meat-head.
137 posted on 09/21/2010 1:53:29 PM PDT by peeps36 (Obama, The Worst President In American History, By Far)
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To: ponygirl

Winfield Scott?


138 posted on 09/21/2010 1:54:43 PM PDT by gundog (Why is it that useful idiots remain idiots long after they've exhausted their usefulness?)
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To: Hojczyk
When Cortez arrived in Mexico in 1519, the "Mexica" were the group we call Aztecs, and everyone else hated them (that's how Cortez won, with the help of the other Indians of the region). After the Spanish conquest, it was known as "New Spain." The small number who came to what is now the US were more likely to see themselves as Spanish than as Mexicans, I think. Father Serra wasn't a Mexican--he was born in the Balearic Islands.

Much of the Southwest had no Mexicans living in it when we acquired it in 1848. In Arizona the Indians hated the Mexicans.

139 posted on 09/21/2010 1:54:51 PM PDT by Verginius Rufus
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To: Hojczyk

I reject your reality and substitute my own!


140 posted on 09/21/2010 1:55:43 PM PDT by ronnyquest (There's a communist living in the White House! Now, what are you going to do about it?)
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To: rdl6989

Tagline.


141 posted on 09/21/2010 1:56:30 PM PDT by Mrs. Don-o (America is being run by the ghost of a dead Luo tribesman of the 1950s)
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To: Hojczyk

Obama is an idiot... New Spain became Mexico in 1821 long after America became a nation. Is he actually arguing that the US should belong to Spain?


142 posted on 09/21/2010 1:57:23 PM PDT by Typical_Whitey (Our nation has a choice, Vote or Die.)
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To: Czar

Obama is a fraud

Congress is looking the other way, and is as corrupt as he is.

The nation’s courts have had incompetent judges installed in them to the point that our system is failing.

The Supreme Court has shown signs of a melt-down too. When a sitting SCOTUS justice cites European law to buttress his stand, when Constitutionality and prior rulings are the the only measures available to him, you know you’ve got some serious problems there too.

Look at what takes place in California. It’s citizens pass an initiative, the Ninth Circuit Court steps in, and strikes it down. And then our elected leaders don’t appeal on our behalf.

This meltdown is so pervasive.


143 posted on 09/21/2010 1:57:30 PM PDT by DoughtyOne (All hail Prince Skid-mark, Barack Hussein Obama, constantly soiling himself and our nation.)
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To: Hojczyk

Obama,you are a jive turkey.


144 posted on 09/21/2010 1:58:17 PM PDT by POWERSBOOTHEFAN (Blessed Be The Name Of The Lord,For His Name Alone Is Exaulted)
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To: comebacknewt
I see the Idiot in Chief is at it again.

He's making "Plugs" Biden look like a rocket scientist.

145 posted on 09/21/2010 1:59:09 PM PDT by Don Corleone ("Oil the gun..eat the cannolis. Take it to the Mattress.")
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To: Zakeet

LOL! *snort*


146 posted on 09/21/2010 2:00:54 PM PDT by POWERSBOOTHEFAN (Blessed Be The Name Of The Lord,For His Name Alone Is Exaulted)
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To: Jacquerie
“Mexicans” were here in America long before the United States was an idea.

Obviously these Mexicans have mastered time travel since the First Mexican Empire was not even formed until 1821.

What a complete idiot, polluting the minds of our youth with falsehoods.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mexican_Empire

147 posted on 09/21/2010 2:03:28 PM PDT by Gabrial (The Whitehouse Nightmare will continue as long as the Nightmare is in the Whitehouse)
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To: STARWISE; onyx; holdonnow; maggief; prairiebreeze; penelopesire; Liz

This, from the brilliant, intellectual and Harvard educated president.

I know, I know...why should we be picky about things like this or leaving Creator out of his reference to being endowed with rights. Details, mere details.


148 posted on 09/21/2010 2:03:59 PM PDT by SE Mom (Proud mom of an Iraq war combat vet)
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To: F15Eagle

Are you kidding me? “I have a deram”? “I have a draem”? Goodness.


149 posted on 09/21/2010 2:04:10 PM PDT by POWERSBOOTHEFAN (Blessed Be The Name Of The Lord,For His Name Alone Is Exaulted)
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To: Mrs. Don-o

My grandmother used to say we were related to Virginia Dare. She was, apparently adamant about it. We though it was the “gift of the Irish,” and my mother said she paid little or no attention to it, as it was just grown-up talk -UNTIL we went back through a genealogist. Funny thing about my mother’s family - great story tellers - the gift of the Blarney. Every time they’d have you at “hello,” you’d bite hook, line and sinker — it was BS (Blarney Stone); and every single time we’d think it’s more of the same, you’d find yourself apologizing profusely for ever doubting them (and they’d even have the gall to look so hurt that you had). I swear they were having a big laugh up in Heaven the moment we got the news. Lost Colony didn’t get lost, we just didn’t know where the hell we’d been. We were right here all the time. ;-)


150 posted on 09/21/2010 2:05:12 PM PDT by Constitutions Grandchild
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