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An alarmed Iran asks for outside help to stop rampaging Stuxnet malworm
DEBKA File ^ | 29 September, 2010 | NA

Posted on 09/29/2010 5:52:44 AM PDT by Errant

Tehran this week secretly appealed to a number of computer security experts in West and East Europe with offers of handsome fees for consultations on ways to exorcize the Stuxnet worm spreading havoc through the computer networks and administrative software of its most important industrial complexes and military command centers. debkafile's intelligence and Iranian sources report Iran turned for outside help after local computer experts failed to remove the destructive virus. None of the foreign experts has so far come forward because Tehran refuses to provide precise information on the sensitive centers and systems under attack and give the visiting specialists the locations where they would need to work. They were not told whether they would be called on to work outside Tehran or given access to affected sites to study how they function and how the malworm managed to disable them. Iran also refuses to give out data on the changes its engineers have made to imported SCADA (Supervisory Control and Data Acquisition) systems, mostly from Germany. The impression debkafile sources gained Wednesday, Sept. 29 from talking to European computer experts approached for aid was that the Iranians are getting desperate. Not only have their own attempts to defeat the invading worm failed, but they made matters worse: The malworm became more aggressive and returned to the attack on parts of the systems damaged in the initial attack.

One expert said: "The Iranians have been forced to realize that they would be better off not 'irritating' the invader because it hits back with a bigger punch."

Looking beyond Iran's predicament, he wondered whether the people responsible for planting Stuxnet in Iran - and apparently continuing to offload information from its sensitive systems - have the technology for stopping its rampage. "My impression," he said, "is that somebody outside Iran has partial control at least on its spread. Can this body stop malworm in its tracks or kill it? We don't have that information at present, he said.

As it is, the Iranian officials who turned outside for help were described by another of the experts they approached as alarmed and frustrated. It has dawned on them that the trouble cannot be waved away overnight but is around for the long haul. Finding a credible specialist with the magic code for ridding them of the cyber enemy could take several months. After their own attempts to defeat Stuxnet backfired, all the Iranians can do now is to sit back and hope for the best, helpless to predict the worm's next target and which other of their strategic industries will go down or be robbed of its secrets next.

While Tehran has given out several conflicting figures on the systems and networks struck by the malworm - 30,000 to 45,000 industrial units - debkafile's sources cite security experts as putting the figure much higher, in the region of millions. If this is true, then this cyber weapon attack on Iran would be the greatest ever.


TOPICS: Foreign Affairs; Government; News/Current Events; Political Humor/Cartoons
KEYWORDS: 05091979; computers; debka; espionage; habibelghanian; iran; malware; myrtus; nucleariran; stuxnet; virus
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To: 668 - Neighbor of the Beast

Why wouldn’t Russia do this? They can come in and save the day. (For a small fee of course)


21 posted on 09/29/2010 6:11:10 AM PDT by listenhillary (A very simple fix to our dilemma - We need to reward the makers instead of the takers)
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To: Carley

I’ve got a copy of Norton AV they can have... It’s kinda old and there are parts of it still on my HD.


22 posted on 09/29/2010 6:11:34 AM PDT by Errant
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To: dps.inspect

Kind of reminds you of the end of the story in Orson Welles’ broadcast about the martians. Defeated in the end not by superior brute force, but by the tiniest life forms...


23 posted on 09/29/2010 6:12:43 AM PDT by 668 - Neighbor of the Beast ( A window seat, a jug of elderberry wine, and thou.)
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To: Post5203
Must be why their pissant leader met with the new black panthers...to discuss computer worms.

ROFLOL!!!

24 posted on 09/29/2010 6:13:08 AM PDT by Errant
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To: Errant; rdb3; Calvinist_Dark_Lord; GodGunsandGuts; CyberCowboy777; Salo; Bobsat; JosephW; ...

25 posted on 09/29/2010 6:13:46 AM PDT by ShadowAce (Linux -- The Ultimate Windows Service Pack)
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To: listenhillary

I don’t know, but I do think someone’s getting some practice in 21st c warfare.


26 posted on 09/29/2010 6:14:10 AM PDT by 668 - Neighbor of the Beast ( A window seat, a jug of elderberry wine, and thou.)
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To: RexBeach
Don’t bring a mullah to a malware fight.

Maybe they should try "stoning" the computers.

27 posted on 09/29/2010 6:14:46 AM PDT by Errant
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To: 668 - Neighbor of the Beast

What if the worm isn’t really that effective and Iran is just acting like it is wreaking havoc ... Iran could continue enriching while outside agencies would underestimate their production.

Israel should still physically destroy Iran’s facilities.


28 posted on 09/29/2010 6:16:03 AM PDT by ChiefJayStrongbow
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To: Leg Olam
I read earlier their system was closed loop and this could have been inserted by a memory stick.

Either way, anything is susceptible to corruption, huh?

29 posted on 09/29/2010 6:16:54 AM PDT by ryan71 (Let's Roll!)
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To: Errant

When all is said and done, they will find an email from a guy in Nigeria.


30 posted on 09/29/2010 6:16:59 AM PDT by TommyDale (Independent - I already left the GOP because they were too liberal)
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To: ryan71

This is exactly why memory sticks, thumb drives, etc. are forbidden in secure systems here.


31 posted on 09/29/2010 6:18:12 AM PDT by TommyDale (Independent - I already left the GOP because they were too liberal)
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To: ChiefJayStrongbow

That would be a brilliant move by the Iranians, huh?


32 posted on 09/29/2010 6:19:17 AM PDT by ryan71 (Let's Roll!)
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To: Errant

Independence Day Redux?
While it couldn’t happen to a more deserving bunch, it is worrying that we could be subject to an equivalent attack.


33 posted on 09/29/2010 6:21:24 AM PDT by bjc (Check the data!!)
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To: Errant
“with offers of handsome fees for consultations on ways to exorcize the Stuxnet worm “

I am for hire as a consultant to them. Simply gather large amounts of high explosives and place near all nuclear facilities and computer systems. Detonate.
Then the worm will be gone.

34 posted on 09/29/2010 6:22:32 AM PDT by HereInTheHeartland (A guy walks into a bar)
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To: Errant
It stux to be you, Iran.

5.56mm

35 posted on 09/29/2010 6:22:51 AM PDT by M Kehoe
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To: Carley

Or someone with some updated software to make it work even better.


36 posted on 09/29/2010 6:22:55 AM PDT by stuartcr (Nancy Pelosi-Super MILF.................................Moron I'd Like to Forget)
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To: TommyDale
Happened to here... You should see 1,000+ PCs warehoused with post-its identifying the owners...
37 posted on 09/29/2010 6:23:13 AM PDT by Errant
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To: All

I am having a hard time believing this story...If this supposed worm is in all of Iran’s networks, then it has surely spread around the rest of the world. We just don’t know it. If it has spread around the world, how come other world’s systems haven’t been affected?

All this opens a can of worms....Someone on their side will eventually figure this out and will back engineer it so they can use it against us and other nations....


38 posted on 09/29/2010 6:24:19 AM PDT by Maringa
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To: M Kehoe

LOL


39 posted on 09/29/2010 6:25:04 AM PDT by Errant
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To: dps.inspect
And when the worm eats its way into the air defense system....you strike!

Mike

40 posted on 09/29/2010 6:25:16 AM PDT by MichaelP (Democrats are the party of Special Re-education)
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