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An alarmed Iran asks for outside help to stop rampaging Stuxnet malworm
DEBKA File ^ | 29 September, 2010 | NA

Posted on 09/29/2010 5:52:44 AM PDT by Errant

Tehran this week secretly appealed to a number of computer security experts in West and East Europe with offers of handsome fees for consultations on ways to exorcize the Stuxnet worm spreading havoc through the computer networks and administrative software of its most important industrial complexes and military command centers. debkafile's intelligence and Iranian sources report Iran turned for outside help after local computer experts failed to remove the destructive virus. None of the foreign experts has so far come forward because Tehran refuses to provide precise information on the sensitive centers and systems under attack and give the visiting specialists the locations where they would need to work. They were not told whether they would be called on to work outside Tehran or given access to affected sites to study how they function and how the malworm managed to disable them. Iran also refuses to give out data on the changes its engineers have made to imported SCADA (Supervisory Control and Data Acquisition) systems, mostly from Germany. The impression debkafile sources gained Wednesday, Sept. 29 from talking to European computer experts approached for aid was that the Iranians are getting desperate. Not only have their own attempts to defeat the invading worm failed, but they made matters worse: The malworm became more aggressive and returned to the attack on parts of the systems damaged in the initial attack.

One expert said: "The Iranians have been forced to realize that they would be better off not 'irritating' the invader because it hits back with a bigger punch."

Looking beyond Iran's predicament, he wondered whether the people responsible for planting Stuxnet in Iran - and apparently continuing to offload information from its sensitive systems - have the technology for stopping its rampage. "My impression," he said, "is that somebody outside Iran has partial control at least on its spread. Can this body stop malworm in its tracks or kill it? We don't have that information at present, he said.

As it is, the Iranian officials who turned outside for help were described by another of the experts they approached as alarmed and frustrated. It has dawned on them that the trouble cannot be waved away overnight but is around for the long haul. Finding a credible specialist with the magic code for ridding them of the cyber enemy could take several months. After their own attempts to defeat Stuxnet backfired, all the Iranians can do now is to sit back and hope for the best, helpless to predict the worm's next target and which other of their strategic industries will go down or be robbed of its secrets next.

While Tehran has given out several conflicting figures on the systems and networks struck by the malworm - 30,000 to 45,000 industrial units - debkafile's sources cite security experts as putting the figure much higher, in the region of millions. If this is true, then this cyber weapon attack on Iran would be the greatest ever.


TOPICS: Foreign Affairs; Government; News/Current Events; Political Humor/Cartoons
KEYWORDS: 05091979; computers; debka; espionage; habibelghanian; iran; malware; myrtus; nucleariran; stuxnet; virus
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To: Errant; TommyDale

Happened here to = Happened to here


41 posted on 09/29/2010 6:26:08 AM PDT by Errant
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To: Errant

Darn, if only I knew SCADA and spoke Farsi I’d make a killing cleaning them up. And does the NSA have anything they want me to drop off while I’m there?


42 posted on 09/29/2010 6:26:43 AM PDT by antiRepublicrat
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To: WAW

Go Mossad. And why should we not be backing Israel when they are so very clever?


43 posted on 09/29/2010 6:27:16 AM PDT by esquirette ("Our hearts are restless until they find rest in Thee." ~ Augustine)
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To: Maringa

I thought I had read the systems involved are not connected to the internet and the worm was planted with a a thumb drive.


44 posted on 09/29/2010 6:32:58 AM PDT by listenhillary (A very simple fix to our dilemma - We need to reward the makers instead of the takers)
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To: Errant

It appears that Israel has more weapons at its disposal than jets. And this worm can burrow underground better than a bunker buster. And uses less fuel.


45 posted on 09/29/2010 6:33:38 AM PDT by Chaguito
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To: RexBeach

Rex, I stole your quote for my facebook status. Of course, none of my friends have a clue of what I am talking about.


46 posted on 09/29/2010 6:34:45 AM PDT by Vermont Lt (We are so screwed.)
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To: M Kehoe

Don’t worry mullah!
This won’t hurt a bit.


47 posted on 09/29/2010 6:35:13 AM PDT by Dr. Bogus Pachysandra ( Ya can't pick up a turd by the clean end!)
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To: silverleaf
anti-virus companies that scan the net, claim 60% of the infections are in Iran. The rest are said to be in India, Indonesia, Germany and the USA
48 posted on 09/29/2010 6:36:46 AM PDT by waynesa98
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To: Errant
Someone should send them a Fedora install disk.
49 posted on 09/29/2010 6:40:08 AM PDT by zeugma (Ad Majorem Dei Gloriam)
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To: Errant

Some one should suggest to Ahmedinajad to pray for the expedited arrival of the 12th Imam so he could help them. Well…just a thought……just trying to be helpful.


50 posted on 09/29/2010 6:42:10 AM PDT by saintgermaine
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To: Errant

Some one should suggest to Ahmedinajad to pray for the expedited arrival of the 12th Imam so he could help them. Well…just a thought……just trying to be helpful.


51 posted on 09/29/2010 6:42:17 AM PDT by saintgermaine
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To: Maringa

Unlike a “real” virus, you can custom make computer viruses to attack specific networks. My guess is that these viruses were implanted into the software at manufacture, not with a flash card—the Iranians are not stupid. They would put the same security in place that everyone else has.

The reason why the malware or viruses that are more commonly known spread like wildfire is because they are designed that way—to collect information from as many sources as possible.

It was probably activated remotely.

This is simply an amazing story of how dependent we are on the internet and simple technology.


52 posted on 09/29/2010 6:44:22 AM PDT by Vermont Lt (We are so screwed.)
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To: Errant
Answer is do not use Siemens SCADA equipment. It sucks.
53 posted on 09/29/2010 6:45:08 AM PDT by mad_as_he$$ (Playing by the rules only works if both sides do it!)
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To: Vermont Lt

You’re welcome.

I think I’m complimented! :)


54 posted on 09/29/2010 6:45:40 AM PDT by RexBeach ("There is no such thing as a good tax." Winston Churchill)
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To: MichaelP

And before the worm eats its way into your command and control systems you strike first.

But, I am sure the “off” switches built into the fighters and computers they bought will come in handy at that point.

If you ain’t building it yourself, you dont know whats inside.


55 posted on 09/29/2010 6:46:51 AM PDT by Vermont Lt (We are so screwed.)
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To: MichaelP

The CIA is completely incapable of such genius. My guess is the Israeli’s or the Germans themselves.


56 posted on 09/29/2010 6:47:00 AM PDT by mad_as_he$$ (Playing by the rules only works if both sides do it!)
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To: Errant

Maybe if the Iranians offered Syria, Lennon, Gaza and the WB, free of islam, to Israel, they could get unstuck from the tar-baby.


57 posted on 09/29/2010 6:48:23 AM PDT by Paladin2
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To: Errant
Interesting choice of words in the translation of the request for outside help..."for consultations on ways to exorcize the Stuxnet worm"

Is this a indirect plea for assistance from the Vatican? Are they asking for a Exorcist? Are the mussies willing to convert to Catholic?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H6y8fc3n-mI

58 posted on 09/29/2010 6:48:42 AM PDT by Deaf Smith
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To: RexBeach

Stuxnet will become self-aware. Paging Sarah Conner!


59 posted on 09/29/2010 6:49:36 AM PDT by freebird5850 (When 0bama fails, FREEDOM prevails!)
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To: Chaguito

It’s like Der Furrier used to say: “Jewish science!!!” It’s an attack by the Joooos, you guys! They are poisoning your cyberwell!


60 posted on 09/29/2010 7:07:36 AM PDT by 668 - Neighbor of the Beast ( A window seat, a jug of elderberry wine, and thou.)
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