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Fewer firearms, more crime - Gun control set off explosion of drug-cartel violence
Washington Times ^ | October 1, 2010 | Robert Farago

Posted on 10/04/2010 3:56:11 PM PDT by neverdem

Last month, Secretary of State Hillary Rodham Clinton told an interviewer that Mexican drug lords are "what we would consider an insurgency." Diplomatically enough, the State Department immediately rescinded her remark. But Mrs. Clinton is right. To wit: So far this year, the cartels' henchmen have assassinated 10 Mexican mayors.

Clearly, the drug lords are subverting the rule of law, obliterating northern Mexico's political infrastructure. And why not? The cartels have bought off the Mexican military, surviving politicians, judges and the police. As we learned in Iraq and Afghanistan, it takes a village to stop an insurgency. Too bad the Mexican people can't own guns.

According to Article 10 of the Mexican Constitution, our neighbors to the south have the same right to bear arms guaranteed by the Second Amendment of the U.S. Constitution:

"The inhabitants of the United Mexican States have the right to possess arms in their homes for their security and legitimate defense with the exception of those prohibited by federal law and of those reserved for the exclusive use of the Army, Navy, Air Force and National Guard. Federal law shall determine the cases, conditions and place in which the inhabitants may be authorized to bear arms."

There's your trouble. When it comes to personal protection, the Mexican government gets the last word. Or, in this case, the first. And that word is "no."

Long before the Mexican drug cartels cut a distribution deal with their South American confederates, back when Colombian drug lords were busy corrupting their society's democratic system, Mexico's federal government was cracking down on private gun ownership. Its war against civilian firearms began in 1968, after civil unrest spooked the powers that be. The Mexican government closed all privately held firearm stores. From that point on, all firearm sales had to go...

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TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Editorial; Foreign Affairs; Mexico; Politics/Elections; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: banglist; mexico; waronterror; wosd

1 posted on 10/04/2010 3:56:14 PM PDT by neverdem
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To: neverdem

2 posted on 10/04/2010 4:09:25 PM PDT by Bean Counter (Now what kind of a geroo are you anyway?)
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To: neverdem

“The inhabitants of the United Mexican States have the right to possess arms in their homes for their security and legitimate defense with the exception of those prohibited by federal law and of those reserved for the exclusive use of the Army, Navy, Air Force and National Guard. Federal law shall determine the cases, conditions and place in which the inhabitants may be authorized to bear arms.”

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So that’s the Mexican story in a nutshell. Some constitution! I suppose all the other rights are similarly hedged about.


3 posted on 10/04/2010 4:10:03 PM PDT by sinanju
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To: neverdem

The problem is that the Mexican drug Cartels are free to murder anyone they want to murder. If you mess with the cartel you die.

If you mess with the Mexican Goernment , chances are a jail guard will turn you loose a lawyer will getyou off or at worst you serve time in jail.

If you wish to fight this bunch you have to fight like they do. You make a raid you kill everyone i the house, You find drugs you burn them out.

It is a bit like the US has been fighting it’s wars. we fight by the rules while the people we are fighting have no rules.

Yopu cannot win that way.


4 posted on 10/04/2010 4:21:21 PM PDT by Venturer
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To: neverdem

Woohoo! We finally found someone Hellary is treading close to calling terrorists! And they’re not even US citizens!


5 posted on 10/04/2010 4:45:55 PM PDT by Still Thinking (Freedom is NOT a loophole!)
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To: Venturer

Thank you. Your point reminds me of an analogy I always use to explain about Democrats and Republicans in an alley fight. The Pubbie is in a gray 3-piece pinstripe suit bitching about the bad light because he can’t make out his pocket copy of the Marquis de Queensbury rules; meanwhile the Democrat is swinging for the cheap seats with a lead pipe at the Pubbie’s kidneys. You can’t fight like a gentleman if your opponent won’t.


6 posted on 10/04/2010 4:49:00 PM PDT by Still Thinking (Freedom is NOT a loophole!)
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To: Still Thinking

The Mexican Government knows who these people are, they know where they live. You cannot hide the benefits of that much money. Go there and wipe them out. Like they are doing to the Mayors.

They will get the message.


7 posted on 10/04/2010 5:02:54 PM PDT by Venturer
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To: neverdem
I decided a few decades ago to NEVER go to Mexico, for any reason... First off, I had a buddy from high school who was going to college in AZ, and he and some friends decided to go to Tiajuana for some weekend fun... One of his friends wound up in a Mexican jail, and it cost the kid's parents several thousand dollars in bribery to get him out.

I've also heard nightmare cases where people have driven into Mexico, and if their car was searched and any common hunting cartridges were found (.223, .308, 30/06) that are also used by military, they could wind up with very long prison sentences.

Mark

8 posted on 10/04/2010 5:16:05 PM PDT by MarkL (Do I really look like a guy with a plan?)
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To: Venturer

The reason the USMC was so successful in the Pacific in WWII is because it was not hamstrung by absurd ROE. The Marines found out very early in the game that the island fights would be no-quarter, kick-ass slugfests. Once they assumed that mindset, they could not be defeated in combat. I am a long-time student of history, and I have a particluar interest in WWII, as well as in the American West (specifically, the Indian Wars: Talk about no-quarter, from both sides!). America has produced no finer warriors than the USMC. I say that as a USAF veteran, too.


9 posted on 10/04/2010 5:25:46 PM PDT by ought-six ( Multiculturalism is national suicide, and political correctness is the cyanide capsule.)
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To: Venturer

Unfortunately, the converse is true - and the drug cartels actually do it.


10 posted on 10/04/2010 5:31:57 PM PDT by bill1952 (Choice is an illusion created between those with power - and those without)
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To: AdmSmith; Arthur Wildfire! March; Berosus; bigheadfred; blueyon; Convert from ECUSA; dervish; ...
Thanks neverdem.

When guns are outlawed...

"Political power grows out of the barrel of a gun. Therefore the Party must command the gun, the gun must never command the Party." -- Mao
Last month, Secretary of State Hillary Rodham Clinton told an interviewer that Mexican drug lords are "what we would consider an insurgency." Diplomatically enough, the State Department immediately rescinded her remark... So far this year, the cartels' henchmen have assassinated 10 Mexican mayors... the drug lords are subverting the rule of law, obliterating northern Mexico's political infrastructure... have bought off the Mexican military, surviving politicians, judges and the police... Too bad the Mexican people can't own guns... Article 10 of the Mexican Constitution... "The inhabitants of the United Mexican States have the right to possess arms in their homes for their security and legitimate defense with the exception of those prohibited by federal law and of those reserved for the exclusive use of the Army, Navy, Air Force and National Guard. Federal law shall determine the cases, conditions and place in which the inhabitants may be authorized to bear arms." ...Long before the Mexican drug cartels cut a distribution deal with their South American confederates, back when Colombian drug lords were busy corrupting their society's democratic system, Mexico's federal government was cracking down on private gun ownership. Its war against civilian firearms began in 1968, after civil unrest spooked the powers that be. The Mexican government closed all privately held firearm stores.

11 posted on 10/05/2010 5:53:23 PM PDT by SunkenCiv (The 2nd Amendment follows right behind the 1st because some people are hard of hearing.)
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