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I have been reading several books on the Constitution, and most scholars agree the power of the pardon is nearly "absolute".

So: the Constitutional question is can a President pardon someone of a crime (illegal entry, etc.) if they are not a citizen but are still within our borders?

And, more importantly, would Hussein DARE to try this tactic?

Okay, I'll take off my tin foil hat and await your opinions.

1 posted on 10/04/2010 6:38:53 PM PDT by Recovering_Democrat
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To: Recovering_Democrat

His handlers aren’t that stupid and somehow I think the tin foil hat never comes off.


2 posted on 10/04/2010 6:41:07 PM PDT by utherdoul
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To: Recovering_Democrat

It still would not make them citizens.


3 posted on 10/04/2010 6:42:15 PM PDT by ThomasThomas (I still like peanut butter)
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To: Recovering_Democrat

He could pardon them for the past crime of coming here illegally, but if they remained in this country they would continually be breaking the law. He would have to pardon them everyday. That is, without amnesty.
Just my opinion.


4 posted on 10/04/2010 6:43:51 PM PDT by running_dog_lackey
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To: Recovering_Democrat
How can one legally bestow a pardon on a non-U.S. Citizen, and for a crime which has not resulted in a conviction, anyway?

This is ludicrous, and even The Messiah can't wave his magic wand and expect that Americans will accept it.

5 posted on 10/04/2010 6:44:19 PM PDT by traditional1 ("Don't gotsta worry 'bout no mo'gage, don't gotsta worry 'bout no gas; Obama go:nna take care o' me!)
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To: Recovering_Democrat

Pardoning them of the crime of being here illegally does not grant citizenship.


6 posted on 10/04/2010 6:44:33 PM PDT by my4kidsdad
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To: Recovering_Democrat

A pardon is not amnesty or immunity. A pardon only takes away the penalties for offenses committed prior to the pardon. If Obama pardoned all of the illegal immigrants on January 1, then on January 2 they would again be in violation of the law and would again be illegal.


8 posted on 10/04/2010 6:45:33 PM PDT by Petrosius
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To: Recovering_Democrat

They bribed lawmakers with public monies to pass ObamaCare. Don’t put anything past them.


14 posted on 10/04/2010 7:02:33 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet (Palin/Bolton 2012)
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Thanks Recovering_Democrat.
A proposal introduced by Connecticut's Roger Sherman to make Presidential pardons subject to the consent of the Senate was considered but quickly rejected by the Convention (the Senate was deemed to be powerful enough already). So was Luther Martin's suggestion of confining pardons to convicted persons only... With the single exception of impeachment, then, the pardon power emerged from Philadelphia as exclusive, broad, and unfettered by the regular checks and balances of the governmental structure.
A pardon wouldn't make them citizens.

18 posted on 10/04/2010 7:27:22 PM PDT by SunkenCiv (Democratic Underground... matters are worse, as their latest fund drive has come up short...)
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To: Recovering_Democrat

He can pardon them from PAST crimes, but not for future ones. By being here illegally, they commit a crime every moment of every day.

The lawyers would eat this one up - if only because of the time to be billed for extravagant court cases.


22 posted on 10/04/2010 8:12:44 PM PDT by MortMan (To Obama "Kill them all and let [God] sort them out" is an abortion slogan.)
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To: Recovering_Democrat

Those that get a “pardon” from Obama may have to pay the Piper later on...Obama failed to qualify to even be President.

In effect he has no standing to pardon anyone.


24 posted on 10/04/2010 8:22:36 PM PDT by Eye of Unk (If your enemy is quick to anger, seek to irritate him. Sun Tzu, The Art of War.)
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To: Recovering_Democrat
Could a pardon be a blanket pardon, or would it have to name each person?

Of course hussein will try it. He's only doing one term anyway.

25 posted on 10/04/2010 8:40:16 PM PDT by ThunderSleeps (obama out now! I'll keep my money, my guns, and my freedom - you can keep the change.)
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To: Recovering_Democrat

Maybe he can pardon an illegal alien but he can’t make them legal.


26 posted on 10/04/2010 9:28:44 PM PDT by Mike Darancette (11/2/10-Obama: Close your eyes and think of Kenya)
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To: Recovering_Democrat

It would appear he can but his actions would make him subject to impeachment.


27 posted on 10/04/2010 9:41:00 PM PDT by NonValueAdded ("It's amazing, A man who has such large ears could be so tone deaf" Rush Limbaugh 9/8/10)
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To: Recovering_Democrat
But how, if at all, should such a power be limited?

It's already limited by the Constitution itself.

When they said - The President ... shall have power to grant reprieves and pardons for offenses against the United States, they meant offenses against they areas of jurisdiction held by the federal government, NOT the entire country.

As another poster pointed out, 'pardons' cannot confer citizenship....but then again, neither does the ability to make a uniform rule of naturalization.

30 posted on 10/05/2010 5:47:55 AM PDT by MamaTexan (I am a Person as created by the Law of Nature, not a person as created by the laws of Man)
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To: Recovering_Democrat

Try it before the elections?

Could they be that stupid?

Try it after the elections?

If the elections go as we think, he doesn’t stand a snowball’s chance.


31 posted on 10/05/2010 7:00:10 AM PDT by metmom (Welfare was never meant to be a career choice.)
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