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The Unraveling Of Obamacare
National Center For Policy Analysis ^ | NCPA/IBD

Posted on 10/12/2010 8:32:56 AM PDT by raptor22

Thirty companies and organizations get waivers from the new health care overhaul because otherwise they'd have to raise rates or drop coverage. The president said neither would happen. Hey, where's our waiver? asks Investor's Business Daily (IBD).

After telling federal regulators that it would be "economically prohibitive" for its insurance carrier to continue to cover its 30,000 hourly workers unless it received a waiver for its mini-med plans, McDonald's now has waivers for 115,000 workers, not just 30,000.

Jack in the Box also has a waiver, as do 28 other companies and organizations. The largest waiver, for 351,000 people, is for, appropriately enough, a union -- specifically the United Federation of Teachers Welfare Fund. The United Agricultural Benefit Trust, a California-based cooperative that provides such low-cost minimal coverage to farmworkers, was allowed to exempt 17,347 workers. Even what has been dubbed RomneyCare gets a waiver, with Massachusetts' universal health coverage bureaucracy getting an exemption for about 5,000 people.

(Excerpt) Read more at ncpa.org ...


TOPICS: Editorial; Government
KEYWORDS: exemptions; healthcare; mcdonalds; obama; obamacare; romneycare; singlepayer; socializedmedicine; waiver
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To: dalebert
I never thought you were a liar, dalebert.

I just never heard any current Republican leader talking about compromise on the health care bill, and I wanted to see what you were implying by your accusation that they had.

I guess I don't accept any mention of the term 'bi-partisan' as meaning not standing their ground on the hideous health care bill.

As a conservative Republican, I will be the first to admit that our 'leaders' have been wimps and cowards, but I believe that they have actually been listening, and that we, the people, have power over them that we have not had before (at least the majority, and not the elitists, inside the beltway career politicians. They're hopeless and must be removed).

I apologize for any implication that you were lying. I just didn't see any back up for your comment, and thought that you might be stating your opinion as hard, cold fact.

If there are hard, cold facts that Boehner isn't going to stand his ground, I want to know so that we can make our opinions clearly known to him and to his staff.

There can be NO compromise on this hideous, liberty sucking bill.

41 posted on 10/12/2010 3:57:57 PM PDT by ohioWfan (Proud Mom of a Bronze Star recipient!)
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To: TribalPrincess2U

Over and out??


42 posted on 10/12/2010 3:58:48 PM PDT by ohioWfan (Proud Mom of a Bronze Star recipient!)
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To: Texas Eagle

FUBOcare short for F#$%^#-Up-By-Obama care....


43 posted on 10/12/2010 4:57:07 PM PDT by Newton ('No arsenal is so formidable as the will and moral courage of free men and women.' -Ronald Reagan)
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To: Carry_Okie
I agree. Term limits is an idea whose time has gone.

The source of government corruption is government power to spend money where it should not, which is damn near everywhere these days.

44 posted on 10/12/2010 5:05:28 PM PDT by hinckley buzzard
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To: Carry_Okie
I agree. Term limits is an idea whose time has gone.

The source of government corruption is government power to spend money where it should not, which is damn near everywhere these days.

45 posted on 10/12/2010 5:05:28 PM PDT by hinckley buzzard
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To: hinckley buzzard
The source of government corruption is government power to spend money where it should not, which is damn near everywhere these days.

Frankly, I think that the power to keep people from making money by selective regulation is the bigger problem. Upon reflection, I think you would agree. It is a much more subtle way of controlling much more money than even government can spend.

46 posted on 10/12/2010 5:27:25 PM PDT by Carry_Okie (The fourth estate IS the fifth column.)
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To: ohioWfan

lol 10-4

First thing that popped into my head reading your comment.

I agree whole-heartedly with what you were saying
and 10-4 just seemed appropriate.


47 posted on 10/12/2010 5:42:10 PM PDT by TribalPrincess2U (demonicRATS= Obama's Mosque, taxes, painful death. Is this what you want?)
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To: TribalPrincess2U

Oh good! I thought it was some kind of code or something... ;*)


48 posted on 10/12/2010 5:51:38 PM PDT by ohioWfan (Proud Mom of a Bronze Star recipient!)
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To: lurk

>Wouldn’t it be great if 100% of the population got a waiver from Obamacare, forever?

The problem with “forever” is that in Governmentese it means “until we change our minds.”


49 posted on 10/12/2010 6:19:06 PM PDT by OneWingedShark (Q: Why am I here? A: To do Justly, to love mercy, and to walk humbly with my God.)
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To: Carry_Okie

Okay, fair enough. I agree with your suggestion that the primary process has worked well. I have done a little research about the CA term limit issue and I see what you are talking about. I’ll think some more about this. However, I did not state that “term limits ensure accountable government.” Term limits would have to be part of a total package (see Randy Barnett’s Bill of Federalism).

I do like what Gov. Christie is doing—and he IS a neophyte. He has the guts to take on the unions. True courage is rare in life. Also, NY State is in much the same situation as California and they have no term limits. As I see it the main problem in California is that they spend more than they make. That’s true in most blue states—net-users of the system outnumber the net-payers and thus vote themselves an ever-increasing share of the pie. California just happens to be bluer than everywhere else. It appears that the problem IS exacerbated by term limits—but certainly not caused by it. I actually feel sorry for the folks in the Sierra and up north. Great country—too bad it’s in California.

What we both agree on is that the desire for personal gain on the part of the office-holder (power, money, influence, security, etc) overrides the mandate to do the people’s business for the general welfare. The public trust is broken.

When the average person is asked to vote “yes” or “no”, they generally ask “How much is it? Is it any good?” This is basic cost benefit analysis. The next question is “Can I afford it?”

These are fundamental questions that Grassley, Hatch, Cornyn, McCain, Lott, McConnell, Graham, and all the other Pubs don’t ask. They want to compromise—IMMEDIATELY. They are too fearful that the gravy train of power and perks and DC cocktail parties will end. How to control the corrupting influences of office is still at the heart of saving our Republic. Let’s see how long Gov. Christie can hold off the need to perpetuate his power and avoid compromise. I see signs of wavering already.


50 posted on 10/13/2010 5:49:27 AM PDT by SC_Pete
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To: SC_Pete; calcowgirl
I agree with your suggestion that the primary process has worked well.

Not in California. Here is what is happening: Conservatives are so maxed out keeping a job and paying taxes that they "don't have time" to manage political affairs. Leftists on the other hand usually work in government, so they have plenty of time for politics. Hence, in the Republican Party those affairs end up "professinalized," with County Central Committee members sponsored or manned by only those with something material to gain. The few paying any attention to the early primary process then look to the Party to see "who's running." Even here on FR, we look to see whether they have enough money or backing to be "viable" and what do they find but RINOs looking to cut deals.

It is at that point where our candidate has been selected for us.

We have failed to recognize and effect our own power here on FR. We have the connections, numbers, and intensity to promote a candidate at the early stages in the primary process should we do so with purpose. After all, if we didn't have power, there wouldn't be so many hired trolls hanging out here working for campaign consultancies trying to form our opinions. I know for a fact that they are here.

Needless to say, facilitating people running for County Central Committees wouldn't hurt either. The problem is finding someone who wants to do it. From what I can tell, the State boards are ideal for that purpose.

51 posted on 10/13/2010 6:18:34 AM PDT by Carry_Okie (The fourth estate IS the fifth column.)
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To: raptor22

We just received our health insurance re-enrollment letter, two pages long. The first half page talks of the savings we get with the bill- free well visits, free immunizations (not mentioning they were already free under our plan), etc. For our family this saves us about $100 dollars a year.

The next half page describes how the company has prevented our premium going up- by doubling our deductible, and now only covering 90% of in-network bills instead of the 100% it used to cover. This is up to $2500 out of pocket a year, exclusive of deductibles and co-pays. They have not told us what our new co-pays will be either.

Turn the page, now. All the guff about premiums not going up ONLY APPLIES IF YOU HAVE NO MORE THAN ONE CHILD! The company has gone to unitized pricing, a practice apparently coming into common usage in the insurance industry.

http://tinyurl.com/3amd57d

Wow! Look how common that is!

The rest of the letter freely admits you will see drastic price increases with each additional child, although these increases charitably stop at child #6.

Luckily, the company has formulated strategies to help families deal with these increases. These strategies are:

1) Get and Stay Healthy!
2) Move to our Catastrophic High Deductible Plan!
3) Divert $2500 of your salary into the HSA program- you know, the one you will no longer be able to use for items without a doctors prescription, that doctor who, despite being in-network, is no longer covered at %100 because if you need a prescription it’s OBVIOUSLY NOT A WELL VISIT.

Gee, I’m sure glad Obamacare has saved me for shelling out for once a year check-ups at fifteen bucks a pop!


52 posted on 10/13/2010 6:23:25 AM PDT by Eepsy
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