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Daily Presidential Tracking Poll: down to -19 and sinking
Rasmussen Reports ^

Posted on 10/15/2010 6:51:06 AM PDT by DadOfFive

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To: WAW; sam_paine
2 out of 5 Americans don't want an America as we knew it.

I think it's probably more that 1/5 are the commies and the other 1/5 are ____ .

(fill in the blank with one or more of the following: not paying attention; HOPEful; CHANGEful; touchy-feely; looking for 'diversity;' minorities; in favor of affirmative action; gay; too 'nice;' union members; diehard dems; watching too much TV; reading too many newspapers; listening to the commies; OR stupid; ignorant; morons; etc.)

There may be considerable overlap of descriptive labels.

41 posted on 10/15/2010 8:24:10 AM PDT by Right Wing Assault (The Obama magic is <strike>fading</strike>gone.)
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To: WAW; who knows what evil?; Right Wing Assault
It’s much more likely he’s reached a limit...a point of resistance for the time being...When you see numbers bunching like that, I find myself asking, is it more likely to break upward or break downward?

My bet is on downward.

I totally agree. But think through the next step. WHY would one of those 40% who still APPROVE or STRONGLY APPROVE of him switch to DISAPPROVE or STRONGLY DISAPPROVE of him at this point in time or in the future?

Think about it.

Is it more likely because they will have a eureka moment and suddenly love Ronald Reagan and Sarah Palin's message of individual responsibility, or because they are frustrated with Obama not delivering the Socialist Utopian freebies they think they deserve?

I suspect that his support will fall further, but only because the true believers are upset that he hasn't destroyed the "dirty capitalist-colonialist-fatcats" enough.

42 posted on 10/15/2010 8:30:28 AM PDT by sam_paine (X .................................)
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To: sam_paine
2 out of 5 Americans don't want an America as we knew it.

Then those 2 of 5 should all move to California, because that state is a model of liberal utopia.

43 posted on 10/15/2010 8:32:46 AM PDT by Disambiguator
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To: sam_paine

I agree. The Utopianistsas need to be disabused of their beliefs...And hard.

Educating on Liberty - and what that really means - is my first preferred method...But is slow.

And having these socialists disappointed that their freebees aren’t coming only leads I think to believing that they could come - if only they tried harder....

Pitforks and torches on the capital mall, though...That migth just start a discussion with the stakes high enough to polarize the wishy-washy, and galvanize the rest. Personally, I think to affect those stubborn true believers in socialism, the choices need to be made starker to them for them the see the error.


44 posted on 10/15/2010 8:37:20 AM PDT by WAW (Which enumerated power?)
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To: Disambiguator
Then those 2 of 5 should all move to California, because that state is a model of liberal utopia.

...and a state which appears about to re-elect a worn-out hippy socialist to make it even worse!

Some people believed that Obama would teach people how bad socialism is.

I don't think it works that way.

It's more like an addiction. The more you take the worse it gets.

45 posted on 10/15/2010 8:38:54 AM PDT by sam_paine (X .................................)
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To: sam_paine

“2 out of 5 Americans don’t want an America as we knew it.”

Clueless people can still be educated about liberty. This is our great task for this coming generation. We MUST care and engage the coming generation if we care about America surviving in any way as we knew her.


46 posted on 10/15/2010 8:40:19 AM PDT by SeattleBruce (T minus 18 days to SMACKDOWN - Tea Party like it's 1773! Pray 2 Chronicles 7:14!)
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To: sam_paine

‘...and a state which appears about to re-elect a worn-out hippy socialist to make it even worse!’

Wow - I’m incredulous about KaliFORNeeea.


47 posted on 10/15/2010 8:44:12 AM PDT by SeattleBruce (T minus 18 days to SMACKDOWN - Tea Party like it's 1773! Pray 2 Chronicles 7:14!)
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To: AngelesCrestHighway

PERFECT!


48 posted on 10/15/2010 8:45:42 AM PDT by milagro
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To: SeattleBruce; DadOfFive
Clueless people can still be educated about liberty. This is our great task for this coming generation.

Totally agree! And that's why I think this Daily tracking "poll cheering" and a single election is so dangerous.

It creates false exuberance.

Moving that 40% approval of socialistic anti-American uncritical thinking down to even just 20% will take 40 years.

49 posted on 10/15/2010 8:48:24 AM PDT by sam_paine (X .................................)
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To: sam_paine

“Is it more likely because they will have a eureka moment and suddenly love Ronald Reagan and Sarah Palin’s message of individual responsibility, or because they are frustrated with Obama not delivering the Socialist Utopian freebies they think they deserve?”

We need to cast a vision for liberty and freedom (free markets which can create jobs, sensible tax code (flat tax), etc.) Furthermore, we need to ridicule people that are satisfied to live in ignorance - like the idiotic voters in my state who will vote for Patty Murray and Jay Inslee (WA CD 1) but answer the 3rd question of our survey - what should we do to get WA State’s economy on track with “Tax cuts for small businesses and individuals”.

People are IGNORANT and blissfully so. We MUST shake them out of their lethargy.

If we ever fashioned ourselves to be good communicators, this is one of the more important messages we’ll ever deliver to this and the coming generation.


50 posted on 10/15/2010 8:49:14 AM PDT by SeattleBruce (T minus 18 days to SMACKDOWN - Tea Party like it's 1773! Pray 2 Chronicles 7:14!)
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To: sam_paine
I suspect that his support will fall further, but only because the true believers are upset that he hasn't destroyed the "dirty capitalist-colonialist-fatcats" enough.

Look at the volatility in the 'Strongly Disapprove' numbers over the past year. I suspect you are correct...whenever Obama does something that leads the far left to believe that his administration might be moving toward the 'center' on an issue dear to them; the SD numbers plunge. Look at the attention college students devoted to 'DADT' during that MTV forum yesterday...they weren't very happy.

51 posted on 10/15/2010 8:51:28 AM PDT by who knows what evil? (G-d saved more animals than people on the ark...www.siameserescue.org.)
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To: who knows what evil?
Re: kids and DADT:

Isn't it funny how this election cycle everyone notes that the "evil social conservative issues" have gone into hiding?

And yet, what is DADT if not a social liberal issue?

Depends on what social issue the left likes.

52 posted on 10/15/2010 8:56:19 AM PDT by sam_paine (X .................................)
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To: DadOfFive

Only -19? He’s been lower


53 posted on 10/15/2010 9:08:19 AM PDT by hattend (Like a termite to wood, Obama only wants to destroy - Mark Levin)
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To: Longbow1969

“a Marshall University poll “

Also, these university polls are often crappy ones - real likely voters, good sample, etc?


54 posted on 10/15/2010 9:26:25 AM PDT by WOSG (OPERATION RESTORE AMERICAN FREEDOM - NOVEMBER, 2010 - DO YOUR PART!)
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To: sam_paine

Doesn’t matter, Sam. According to Paul Johnson, about 1/3 of the colonists didn’t want a Free Republic either—they wanted to stay under the king.

Another 1/3 didn’t care either way.

And a third, led by people like your namesake, changed the world for the better.

bottom line: we don’t need that 40% who embrace Hussein. We need a committed few to change the world.

Christ and his 12 disciples did it.
Samuel Adams and the Sons of Liberty did it.
And so can the Tea Party.


55 posted on 10/15/2010 9:59:15 AM PDT by Recovering_Democrat
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To: Disambiguator

“Then those 2 of 5 should all move to California, because that state is a model of liberal utopia.”

I would recommend that progressive utopia known as Detroit. Plenty of cheap housing, too.


56 posted on 10/15/2010 11:01:09 AM PDT by Cletus.D.Yokel (Islam is a violent and tyrannical political ideology and has nothing to do with "religion".)
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To: indylindy
"People are onto them. Problem is, they have to lie because nobody would want what they have in mind for them."

Helluva spot to be in. No one beleives your B.S. lies anymore, and if you told the truth people would run away screaming in terror.

57 posted on 10/15/2010 11:01:38 AM PDT by libs_kma (THEY TALK ABOUT HIM LIKE A DOG BECAUSE HE TREATS THIS COUNTRY LIKE A FIRE HYDRANT)
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To: AU72

You are right! “THE ILLEGAL FRAUD” THE BIGGEST CRIME EVER IN THE HISTORY OF THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA!!!!!!!


58 posted on 10/15/2010 11:03:12 AM PDT by watchdogmom
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To: AU72

You are right! “THE ILLEGAL FRAUD” THE BIGGEST CRIME EVER IN THE HISTORY OF THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA!!!!!!!


59 posted on 10/15/2010 11:09:29 AM PDT by watchdogmom
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To: DadOfFive
This poll is volatile, but that is what keeps it interesting. The trend is still deteriorating for Obama. I have coworkers who are serious Obots; I have observed that they have been getting more and more cranky and sensitive about politics over the past few months. If the election knocks the arrogant dems off their high horse... I am hopeful that the typical Obot will be so demoralized that they will go into heavy pot smoking mode and lose all interest in politics.
60 posted on 10/15/2010 11:10:59 AM PDT by fireman15 (Check your facts before making ignorant statements.)
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