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Self defense and revenge(CO)
Denver Gun Rights Examiner ^ | 28 October, 2010 | Dan Bidstrup

Posted on 10/29/2010 7:45:42 AM PDT by marktwain

An aspect of self defense in one's home that isn't discussed much is revenge. Robert Wallace of Wheat Ridge, Colorado had his 15 minutes of fame when he was charged with 4 counts of attempted murder for firing two shots at two criminals stealing his trailer parked in his yard. Eventually the courts decided not to send an 82 year old man off to the Big House for the rest of his life. They decided that probation would be enough, but took all his guns away from him. Society is safe and justice is served. Now, his RV has been purposely burned by someone. It appears someone climbed the ladder, poured gas or some combustible into the roof vent and tossed a match. He believes it is revenge and that is a pretty good guess since the police have said the thieves he shot at belonged to a car theft ring. When we defend our home, any surviving bad guys are pretty upset. We have increased the risk of their chosen profession. Clearly we must be punished. The survivors or their confederates know exactly where you live, and after the news coverage of the shooting is done, they know lots about the person who defended his home. This is bad, but not as bad as doing nothing when your home is invaded. In the case of Mr. Wallace, he has angered someone willing to do violence to property and perhaps more. The government has disarmed him to protect society. Who protects Mr. Wallace?

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TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society; Extended News; US: Colorado
KEYWORDS: banglist; co; defense; examiner; home
Justice was not served in this case.
1 posted on 10/29/2010 7:45:44 AM PDT by marktwain
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To: marktwain

When someone breaks into your home, shoot to kill.


2 posted on 10/29/2010 7:48:14 AM PDT by thethirddegree
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To: marktwain

Jeff Co DA Scott Story is a RINO scumbag for doing this.


3 posted on 10/29/2010 7:49:49 AM PDT by MileHi ( "It's coming down to patriots vs the politicians." - ovrtaxt)
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To: thethirddegree

They were outside stealing his trailer. He fired when they drove at him. CO law doesn’t allow defending property.


4 posted on 10/29/2010 7:51:46 AM PDT by MileHi ( "It's coming down to patriots vs the politicians." - ovrtaxt)
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To: marktwain

The penalty for car theft should be close to what horse theivin’ was in the old west.....


5 posted on 10/29/2010 7:52:13 AM PDT by GraceG
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To: MileHi
He fired when they drove at him.

Looks like his life was threatened at that point.

6 posted on 10/29/2010 7:59:45 AM PDT by IYAS9YAS (Liberalism can be summed up thusly: someone craps their pants and we all have to wear diapers)
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To: marktwain

Well, like Peter Boyles says, all Scott Storey did in this case was to take the guns and money away from and 80+ year old law-abiding American citizen. He must be so darned proud!


7 posted on 10/29/2010 8:02:16 AM PDT by beaversmom
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To: marktwain

The left is happy with the outcome. The purpose of restricting legal guns and harassing honest, law-abiding people is to allow the downtrodden underclass to just waltz in and take whatever is “rightfully theirs”. Just a little income redistribution.


8 posted on 10/29/2010 8:07:37 AM PDT by Leftism is Mentally Deranged (Annoying liberals is my goal. I will not be silenced.)
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To: IYAS9YAS

Yes. But the old guy would have to go to trial on 12 felony counts, including 4 attempted murder. He took a plea for probation.

Rock-Hard Place


9 posted on 10/29/2010 8:15:41 AM PDT by MileHi ( "It's coming down to patriots vs the politicians." - ovrtaxt)
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To: marktwain

No legal basis for taking all of his guns!
Fire your lawyer for taking the deal!

Wonder if anyone has offered to sell him another?


10 posted on 10/29/2010 8:16:04 AM PDT by G Larry
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To: MileHi
including 4 attempted murder.

So, how'd they come up with four attempted murder charges with two perps? I still have yet to see that explained.

11 posted on 10/29/2010 8:28:13 AM PDT by IYAS9YAS (Liberalism can be summed up thusly: someone craps their pants and we all have to wear diapers)
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To: IYAS9YAS

4 rounds fired ???


12 posted on 10/29/2010 8:33:47 AM PDT by Gilbo_3 (Gov is not reason; not eloquent; its force.Like fire,a dangerous servant & master. George Washington)
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To: IYAS9YAS

Two shots fire, each with two potential targets. In otherwords, Storey threw the load at Mr. Wallace.

Also, the illegal alian perps were not arrested until this hit talk radio. Then ICE grabbed them out of embarrasment. These guys have been arrested and released for felonies over a dozen times each.


13 posted on 10/29/2010 8:53:37 AM PDT by MileHi ( "It's coming down to patriots vs the politicians." - ovrtaxt)
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To: marktwain

The old guy is just another victim offered up on the altar of political correctness.


14 posted on 10/29/2010 9:01:48 AM PDT by Leftism is Mentally Deranged (Annoying liberals is my goal. I will not be silenced.)
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To: marktwain

I think Texas has a good idea- they let people use deadly force to protect property there. That should be the law of the land.... It would stop a lot of property crime, allow more space in jails, create less crowded court dockets, and thus be a major savings for the taxpayers. Might even create a temporary boom in the funeral business...


15 posted on 10/29/2010 12:56:14 PM PDT by GenXteacher (He that hath no stomach for this fight, let him depart!)
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To: SunkenCiv; rabscuttle385; TigersEye; blackie; LucyT

Remember Robert Wallace of Wheat Ridge? [Sorry if you already know all of this.] He shot at a couple thieves who tried to steal his trailor and was charged with attempted murder. One of the thieves is an illegal immigrant. Here are updates.

“... his RV has been purposely burned by someone. It appears someone climbed the ladder, poured gas or some combustible into the roof vent and tossed a match.”
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2617022/posts

Robert Wallace of Wheat Ridge
http://blogs.westword.com/latestword/2010/07/robert_wallace_shooting_make_m.php

Wallace saw two men, identified as Alvaro Cardona-DeLoera, 28, and Damacio Torres-Ochoa, 32, attempting to hitch his trailer to their red truck. As they fled the scene, with one of the men running alongside the truck before gaining entry to the vehicle’s cab, he fired two shots — although he didn’t immediately mention that to police ... leading to his arrest on attempted murder charges ... Wheat Ridge authorities charged Cardona-DeLoera and Torres-Ochoa with theft. But Torres-Ochoa was already in hot water with Immigration and Custom Enforcement, whose agents previously busted him on an immigration violation. [snip]

Wallace pleaded guilty to two felonies
http://www.denverpost.com/commented/ci_16164664?source=commented-

Robert Wallace of Wheat Ridge [FR links]
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2549473/posts
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2550398/posts
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2617022/posts
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/2615524/posts
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-chat/2595586/posts
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-chat/2548261/posts
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2549186/posts


16 posted on 12/06/2010 4:59:52 AM PST by Arthur Wildfire! March (George Washington: [Government] is a dangerous servant and a terrible master.)
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To: Arthur Wildfire! March

His mistake was the “attempted” part. He should have finished the job.


17 posted on 12/06/2010 8:23:37 PM PST by SunkenCiv (The 2nd Amendment follows right behind the 1st because some people are hard of hearing.)
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