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Two more states vote to nullify healthcare reform (amend State Constitutions)
http://opinion.latimes.com/opinionla/2010/11/two-more-states-vote-to-nullify-healthcare-reform.html ^

Posted on 11/03/2010 2:03:07 PM PDT by Red in Blue PA

Voters in Arizona and Oklahoma amended their state constitutions Tuesday with "healthcare freedom" measures designed to block the new federal mandate on individuals and some employers to buy health insurance. Voters in Colorado went the other way, defeating a similar initiative. The measures purport to give state residents the right not to participate in any healthcare system without penalty and to have access to any legal medical services they can afford.

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TOPICS: Breaking News; News/Current Events; US: Arizona; US: Oklahoma
KEYWORDS: 10thamendment; arizona; obama; obamacare; oklahoma; statesrights
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1 posted on 11/03/2010 2:03:14 PM PDT by Red in Blue PA
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To: Red in Blue PA
But does that help those who worked at hospitals that are now getting laid-off?
That is the one thing I did not hear during this election. "how many out there that work in a hospital have LOST their job due to obamacare?"
2 posted on 11/03/2010 2:07:08 PM PDT by Paul46360
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To: Red in Blue PA

Oklahoma’s (demorat) AG declined to join the suit against Obamacare. Republican AG was elected last night with the commitment, among other things, to oppose every federal act that violates the Tenth Amendment and is contrary to federalism. I have an appointment with him next week to discuss entitlements and unfunded mandates. I am sure we will have a very broad, robust discussion. I believe that he has committed to allocate one of the assistant AGs to the federalism issues.

Gwjack


3 posted on 11/03/2010 2:09:43 PM PDT by gwjack (May God give America His richest blessings.)
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4 posted on 11/03/2010 2:09:55 PM PDT by facedodge (Nothing is so permanent as a temporary government program. ~Friedman)
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5 posted on 11/03/2010 2:13:23 PM PDT by hoosiermama (ONLY DEAD FISH GO WITH THE FLOW.......I am swimming with Sarahcudah! Sarah has read the tealeaves.)
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To: Red in Blue PA

The important thing to remember is that the mandate is vital to the health care plan. Without it, you can pay NOTHING, wait till you get sick, and buy insurance which cannot deny anyone. This is similar to the buying across state lines argument. NY health insurance laws would be worthless if you could buy across state lines. There would be only ludicrous insurance policies available by NY insurance companies left, rendering the whole thing pointless.


6 posted on 11/03/2010 2:13:55 PM PDT by facedodge (Nothing is so permanent as a temporary government program. ~Friedman)
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To: Red in Blue PA

CO remains a gross disappointment.

The pubs need to fight a lot harder there to overcome Soros’s “Colorado project.”


7 posted on 11/03/2010 2:13:55 PM PDT by chilltherats (He was born with a roaring voice, and it had the trick of inflaming half-wits against their betters)
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To: Red in Blue PA

Do states even have a say in these kind of things at all anymore ? The Federal govt can just force the states to accept the healthcare reform and bring it to the courts and interpret the Ammendments to the Constitution as allowing Federal govt to tell states what to do.


8 posted on 11/03/2010 2:21:57 PM PDT by emax
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To: chilltherats

It was not the conservative voters of Colorado Springs but loons in the socialist cooperative of Denver, Boulder, and Aspen, who voted this down. Also, too many California Carpetbaggers been coming to the state fleeing high taxes but bringing their progressive madness.


9 posted on 11/03/2010 2:28:46 PM PDT by Liaison
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RE: CO remains a gross disappointment.


Thousands and thousands of former Californians have called and are still calling Colorado their new home for the past 5 to 10 years.

They have brought the California government dependency mentality with them.

Beware Texas, Arizona and other states.... as California inches towards bankruptcy, you will increasingly find a lot of these transplants moving to your states.


10 posted on 11/03/2010 2:30:25 PM PDT by WebFocus
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To: facedodge
I'm a callin' you out, vermint
11 posted on 11/03/2010 2:32:12 PM PDT by F. dAnconia (We say: "It is, therefore, I want it. They say: "I want it, therefore it is")
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To: WebFocus

Like a bunch of virii leaving a lysed cell, looking for new hosts to occupy, overtake, and destroy.


12 posted on 11/03/2010 2:39:46 PM PDT by DesertConservative
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To: Red in Blue PA

State law does trump federal law when the federal law is unconstitutional and that is one of the point’s of this legislation.
It would also appear to me that some aspects of the Stimulus bill are unconstitutional. According to Dr. David Janda, the federal government will impose penalties on physicians that fail to follow government treatment protocols. This means that the federal government would be usurping the state’s role in discipling physicians through state medical boards and the licensing process. Remember, the Stimulus bill also has dangerous provisions such as the rationing board-”comparative effectiveness research” council which will set up treatment protocols.
We should consider state legislation that protects citizens from this legislation. We should also contact out state AGs to see if we can get a case going against these horrible provisions as we did with 0bamacare.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8HnkxIh62dQ


13 posted on 11/03/2010 2:47:57 PM PDT by grumpygresh (Democrats delenda est)
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To: Red in Blue PA

Ok also added voter I.D. to actually vote...........


14 posted on 11/03/2010 2:49:23 PM PDT by Osage Orange (The IRS thinks I'm made of money.............)
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To: WebFocus

I support a federal law requiring anyone leaving California to emigrate to France. They can’t hurt France, and it would protect the surrounding states from the virus of California.


15 posted on 11/03/2010 2:50:52 PM PDT by Mr Rogers (When an ass brays, don't reply)
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To: Red in Blue PA

I’m here in Wisconsin. Scott Walker, governor elect said, on his first day in office, he’s calling an emergency legislative session to roll back taxes. He’s second priority, on that same day, is walking a letter over to our Attorney General authorizing him to join the health care lawsuit. Sweet! Wisconsin is RED!

We’ve been fighting back Dane (Madison) and Milwaukee counties for years, we finally beat them back. It’s a fabulous day in Wisconsin, all our candidates are conservative, and the WON! Except for one CD seat and the secretary of state. We have control of everything with not only Republicans, but CONSERVATIVES! Keep your eyes on Wisconsin. We’ve been aching for this for years.

As a side note, the libs in Madison are mourning today. LOL!


16 posted on 11/03/2010 2:52:50 PM PDT by Indy Pendance
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To: Paul46360

The Constitutional amendments were not intended to help those laid-off by Obamacare. The intent is to exempt state citizens and businesses from the ObamaCare mandate to buy health insurance or be fined.


17 posted on 11/03/2010 2:58:16 PM PDT by kabar
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To: emax
Do states even have a say in these kind of things at all anymore ? The Federal govt can just force the states to accept the healthcare reform and bring it to the courts and interpret the Ammendments to the Constitution as allowing Federal govt to tell states what to do.

22 states AGs and the state of VA have filed suits against the USG saying that the mandate is unconstitutional. The cases are working their way thru the courts.

18 posted on 11/03/2010 3:01:07 PM PDT by kabar
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To: DesertConservative

-——a bunch of virii -—

hmmm


19 posted on 11/03/2010 3:06:43 PM PDT by bert (K.E. N.P. N.C. +12 ..... Greetings Jacques. The revolution is coming)
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To: Red in Blue PA

It’s time to ramp up the conservative message even more across the nation. If Red states like WI. and others can succeed and contrast with liberal hellholes maybe more Americans can be converted from liberalism.


20 posted on 11/03/2010 3:16:58 PM PDT by tflabo
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