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Fed's Quantitative Easing to Starve Middle Class Americans
NIA ^ | November 3, 2010 | National Inflation Association

Posted on 11/03/2010 10:58:05 PM PDT by Razzz42

...The fact that the Republicans took control of the House of Representatives last night is completely meaningless. If the U.S. government is to implement the spending cuts necessary in order to prevent hyperinflation, Americans will be faced with a second Great Depression, which NIA believes is a necessity and much better than the alternative. However, the Republicans will not risk being held responsible for the next Great Depression, because it will ensure Obama gets reelected in 2012. Therefore, NIA predicts that nothing is going to change with the Republicans taking over the House...

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TOPICS: Business/Economy; Culture/Society; Government; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: banking; congress; debtceiling; default; depression; dollar; federalreserve; nia
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To: OneWingedShark; ASOC

You wanna do over for all that ?

BTDT - just payin it forward.


21 posted on 11/04/2010 2:11:22 AM PDT by onona (dbada)
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To: Razzz42

Insomnia.


22 posted on 11/04/2010 2:28:45 AM PDT by arkady_renko
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To: Razzz42
It is probably tactically better to let the economy chug along at a low level while trying to prevent more QE scheissunddrek than to force the necessary changes now. If we get the crash and depression that is baked into the cake then it will likely cost us the Congress again and the presidency, too. Then the Keynesian rocket ship will take off spectacularly and the situation will be far worse and perhaps terminal. Better to wait until we have the power to actually do something, as when Reagan became president. The Republicans could not do anything while Carter held his hand on the throat of the country but when Reagan got on his horse he was able to do the necessary things and we had another sharp recession that ENDED. Without Reagan's ability to speak to the nation I don't think we can đo that without solid control of Congress and the presidency. Even the resulting sharp "correction" will probably cost the Republicans the next midterm but the repair will have been made and we will come out of it, probably while the president is still a Republican. God help us if that Republican is Romney. Then all bets are off.
23 posted on 11/04/2010 2:31:34 AM PDT by arthurus (Read Hazlitt's "Economics In One Lesson.")
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To: johnthebaptistmoore
Obama just wants to blame the newly elected Republicans for “everything bad that happens”

If the Republicans in the House pass constructive measure after constructive measure through the next two years for the Senate to abort or for the Kenyan to veto then the Rationalist-in-Chief cannot get any traction with his blaming because it would all come down to the "Do Nothing Congress" which won't fly so long as the Congress is incessantly doing. Then it will be the President who looks like a pure obstructionist. But the Republicans can't lie back and say well, we can't do anything anyhow, so we'll just stop whatever it is the Kenyan and his senators try. They have to be a hive of activity. Economically we don't need successful Reagan type measures passed, at least not so early that they take effect before, say, September 2012. We don't need that cleansing short term crash to knock it all into the proverbial cocked hat by turning it all over to the Left Democrats in November 2012. Our guys just need to try hard to stanch the bleeding from the Fed somewhat until sometime in 2012 when the can get serious and, if successful, won't bring the crash-before-the-rapid-recovery until it is too late to affect the election.

24 posted on 11/04/2010 2:43:31 AM PDT by arthurus (Read Hazlitt's "Economics In One Lesson.")
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To: volunbeer

The depression is not “coming.” It is already here, Remember the classic one was not a continuous downturn. It was a series of recessions and anemic recoveries. It was proclaimed to be ended several times and did not really end until the 50s boom when the soldiers were all added back into thêconomy and Ike got most of the economic repressions of the New Deal lifted. During the war years we had a full-employment depression but people were no better off materially. All that production was being blown up as fast as it was produced and wages were frozen at near third world levels. Outside of the war years unemployment was up and downish. Unemployment now, if figured the way it was then, is comparable to that in the 30s.


25 posted on 11/04/2010 2:52:32 AM PDT by arthurus (Read Hazlitt's "Economics In One Lesson.")
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To: ASOC
The Republicans can't really do much of that. They can't get positive meăsures past the Senate or Veto. They can cut off funds for the socialist stuff but they cannot kill the programs, only put them into hiatus until November 2012. But they have to keep passing stuff in the House and pushing stuff in the Senate. They have to keep DOING so that Soetoro becomes the apparent and real Obstructionist.
26 posted on 11/04/2010 2:56:05 AM PDT by arthurus (Read Hazlitt's "Economics In One Lesson.")
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To: J Edgar

I think the only thing the conservatives can do to give back any real chance of a long term future for the Republic is every conservative family pull its children out of public dchools and home school them or send them to parochial schools or carefully vetted private schools.


27 posted on 11/04/2010 2:59:06 AM PDT by arthurus (Read Hazlitt's "Economics In One Lesson.")
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To: Razzz42

I would hate to see something similar to the Great Depression today. You would not have people coming to the door begging for a meal. They will kick in your door take your goods and food and then kill you nowadays. This is why a depression like that of the 30’s is not really a viable thing - it will mean the unraveling of society and I wonder why some here seem to revel in the prospect of it.

Mel


28 posted on 11/04/2010 3:02:12 AM PDT by melsec
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To: arthurus

I agree with you 100%. It is a matter of semantics. The elites and the press are talking about recovery as we slip further into the depression.


29 posted on 11/04/2010 3:05:18 AM PDT by Soul of the South (When times are tough the tough get going.)
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To: Razzz42
This is a dangerous situation that must be carefully managed. I think significant inflation is unavoidable and will result in the least lousy results. As the value of the dollar goes down, by definition everyone will adjust the prices they charge for goods and services.

Those sitting on money will be forced to invest it in new ventures, thereby increasing employment.

Higher prices from offshore sources will result in some manufacturing returning to the US.

This will also require laws to be passed to eliminate inflation-indexed pensions.

Those who will suffer most will be those on fixed incomes. Inflation will simply be a way of reneging on pension plans.

Staffing companies will experience a surge, as the only way people will be able to keep up with inflation is to change employers.

As the dollar becomes worth-less it will become much easier for Joe Sixpack to pay off mortgages and other debt.

The Chinese - who are sitting on a mountain of dollars - will begin buying businesses and property in the US. Many Americans will be working for Chinese bosses. Chinese will begin moving to the US en-masse - which will probably improve the neighborhood here in the US.

In summary - it's going to be a rough ride and a mixed bag of blessings and curses - but mainly curses for those who won't roll up their sleeves and get to work. And it will beat the alternative - which was best depicted in the movie "Soylent Green".

30 posted on 11/04/2010 3:08:46 AM PDT by The Duke
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To: Talf

Interesting


31 posted on 11/04/2010 5:51:28 AM PDT by Incorrigible (If I lead, follow me; If I pause, push me; If I retreat, kill me.)
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To: johnthebaptistmoore

It’s time for the Republican leadership to explain to the American people what the Federal Reserve is doing, and how it will lead to hyperinflation. But they are so afraid of panic that they don’t have the balls to provide Americans with information that they’re entitled to. Bottom line is that most Americans will figure this out anyway within the next 6 months, when they question why their dollar is losing buying power. GOP needs to get ahead of the curve on the current information gap.


32 posted on 11/04/2010 6:03:03 AM PDT by GOPBlonde
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To: arthurus

The (R) party has two years to show they are not the (D) party - or Socialists.

I have no doubt the lame duckers will leave a scorched earth for the incoming folks to deal with - just as they did under Clinton.

If they expect to do well in 2012, they had better show bammy beating his veto stamp to death - they sure as he!! are not going to get any help from the ‘free press’.


33 posted on 11/04/2010 7:55:47 AM PDT by ASOC (What are you doing now that Mexico has become OUR Chechnya?)
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To: onona

I’m afraid I don’t understand either the question or the letters....is it a New York thing?


34 posted on 11/04/2010 7:57:11 AM PDT by ASOC (What are you doing now that Mexico has become OUR Chechnya?)
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To: onona

BTDT?


35 posted on 11/04/2010 8:44:37 AM PDT by OneWingedShark (Q: Why am I here? A: To do Justly, to love mercy, and to walk humbly with my God.)
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To: OneWingedShark; ASOC

been there, done that.


36 posted on 11/04/2010 9:20:48 AM PDT by onona (dbada)
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To: melsec

I agree with everything you wrote there.


37 posted on 11/04/2010 9:32:12 AM PDT by arkady_renko
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To: arthurus

The depression is not “coming.” It is already here

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I suspect you are right but it’s hard to find “experts” that say it. I suspect most of them are afraid to admit it lest they harm themselves.

This recession has felt so much different than the others I have experienced in my middle aged life. I take different routes home and pay attention to businesses that are closing and my area is doing better than most. I see many businesses that have to be really hurting and probably will close given what the next few years or decades look like.

At some point it seems like the cascade effect will happen and many many more people will be out of work. I am not an economists but I recognize that Wall Street and our leaders are living in a different world than the rest of us.

The actions of the Fed are very dangerous in an economy dependent on consumer spending. The more people cut out non-essential spending the more businesses will borrow to stay afloat before inevitably closing their doors and laying off workers. The cascade effect has probably already started and we still have plenty of structural problems with debt, public pensions, entitlements, and the health of our currency.

It feels like our leaders live in a different reality than I do if they think we can borrow our way to prosperity. I have feared all along that the Fed and our gov’t would monetize our debt to benefit themselves.

It is depressing to think about but thanks for an excellent post. I need to read more about the Great Depression and encourage everyone else to prepare the best they can.


38 posted on 11/04/2010 9:49:04 AM PDT by volunbeer
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To: arkady_renko

Cheers!

I was wondering whether I would get a reply on that one. I am glad that I am not the only one who sees the terror in this.

Mel


39 posted on 11/04/2010 1:31:12 PM PDT by melsec
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To: arthurus

I agree with one additional proviso - the parochial need to be vetted too!
Not all Catholic Schools are the same these days!


40 posted on 11/04/2010 7:57:31 PM PDT by J Edgar
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