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34 Warships Rumors Are Not True
Stars And Stripes ^ | November 4, 2010 | Jeff Schogol

Posted on 11/04/2010 2:22:26 PM PDT by 84rules

Rumors are running rampant about President Barack Obama’s upcoming trip to India, including one that he has dispatched a flotilla of 34 warships, including an aircraft carrier, to provide security while he is in Mumbai starting on Saturday.

“The measure has been taken as Mumbai attack in 2008 took place from the sea,” according to a story by Press Trust of India, which did not indicate where this information came from. Nevertheless, it was the lead story on the Drudge Report on Thursday morning.

Even Teddy Roosevelt, who sent The Great White Fleet around the world, might find sending that many warships a tad excessive, so The Rumor Doctor decided to delve into the matter.

Sure enough, there are not 34 ships – and there isn’t an aircraft carrier – supporting the president’s trip, said a defense official, who declined to provide any information on security measures for presidential trips.

(Excerpt) Read more at stripes.com ...


TOPICS: Culture/Society; Foreign Affairs; Government; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: india; mumbai; obama; obamaindiatrip; warships
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Someone had to crush the story. I already don't like Obama. I don't need worthless rumors to add to that.
1 posted on 11/04/2010 2:22:32 PM PDT by 84rules
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To: 84rules

Right. The 3000 person retinue, scores of limosines, renting the entire Taj Mahal Hotel, the bomb proof security tunnel, etc, etc, are plenty reason to consider this jerk an egocentric megalomaniac.


2 posted on 11/04/2010 2:27:07 PM PDT by skeeter
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To: 84rules

I read this article. This guy is a low level blogger. I wonder if he has taken orders directly from the CIC.

Untill I see credible proof (or denial) from the MSM, I will continue to belive Obama is taking 34 warships for a 2 billion dollar joyride.


3 posted on 11/04/2010 2:27:09 PM PDT by Responsibility2nd (Yes, as a matter of fact, what you do in your bedroom IS my business.)
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To: 84rules

Probably 70 ships.


4 posted on 11/04/2010 2:27:15 PM PDT by Paladin2
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To: 84rules
Sure enough, there are not 34 ships – and there isn’t an aircraft carrier – supporting the president’s trip, said a defense official, who declined to provide any information on security measures for presidential trips.

So, this article is based on a tip by an anonymous defense official who refuses to say anything about how many ships there are? Wow, that's convincing evidence!

5 posted on 11/04/2010 2:29:59 PM PDT by Cicero
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To: 84rules

LOL

Doesn’t matter if the story is true or not.

What matters is that the story is completely believable to most Americans.

And that is the REAL problem.....


6 posted on 11/04/2010 2:30:03 PM PDT by ASOC (What are you doing now that Mexico has become OUR Chechnya?)
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To: skeeter
Don't forget removing all them CMD's
 
(Coconuts of Mass Destruction)


7 posted on 11/04/2010 2:30:10 PM PDT by Responsibility2nd (Yes, as a matter of fact, what you do in your bedroom IS my business.)
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To: 84rules
"It's not the nature of the evidence that matters, it's the seriousness of the charge."

What goes around, comes around.

8 posted on 11/04/2010 2:30:49 PM PDT by E. Pluribus Unum ("Government has no other end, but the preservation of property." --John Locke)
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To: 84rules

It does sound over the top, but really nothing is debunked at the link.


9 posted on 11/04/2010 2:31:14 PM PDT by Naplm
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To: ASOC

The real story is India is actually taking all the coconuts off the trees so that the Chosen One won’t be injured.


10 posted on 11/04/2010 2:31:47 PM PDT by animal172 (Where are you America?)
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To: 84rules
The million dollar question should be "Where did the Press Trust of India get that info"?

Besides this opinion piece only quibble about numbers.


11 posted on 11/04/2010 2:32:42 PM PDT by darkwing104 (Lets get dangerous)
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To: ASOC
What matters is that the story is completely believable to most Americans.

And that is the REAL problem.....

Bingo.

12 posted on 11/04/2010 2:32:48 PM PDT by null and void (We are now in day 652 of our national holiday from reality. - 0bama really isn't one of US.)
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To: 84rules

Stars & Stripes? LOL! The chicken sh*t brass of generals, admirals and full bird colonels are Obama’s boys now. I do not trust them. They are snakes doing Obama’s bidding.

The Pentagon is infested with muslims now. Americans traded their liberty for a TV clicker.


13 posted on 11/04/2010 2:34:10 PM PDT by Frantzie (Imam Ob*m* & Democrats support the VICTORY MOSQUE & TV supports Imam)
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To: 84rules

So how many? 33?


14 posted on 11/04/2010 2:35:50 PM PDT by bigbob
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To: 84rules
So if there aren't 34 ships being deployed and $200 mil/day being expended, what are the numbers? Seems like if you're attempting to refute a rumor, you should refute it with some actual facts. Curiously, all the wild numbers come from the Indian press, but the highly sophisticated American press has no numbers and cannot estimate. Funny, they can estimate the impact of cow farts on the atmosphere, but can't estimate the cost of moving x number of bodies and equipment half way around the world. I watched Cooper sneer at Bachmann last night over the same issue, but he didn't know the real numbers either.
15 posted on 11/04/2010 2:38:14 PM PDT by throwback ( The object of opening the mind, as of opening the mouth, is to shut it again on something solid)
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To: Responsibility2nd

Obama is giving America the finger once again. The military brass will do what ever he says.

He is just like Mugabe.


16 posted on 11/04/2010 2:38:55 PM PDT by Frantzie (Imam Ob*m* & Democrats support the VICTORY MOSQUE & TV supports Imam)
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To: ASOC
What matters is that the story is completely believable to most Americans.

And that is the REAL problem.....


Judging from several of the replies here, I'd say you're right. I wonder how these people will feel when the Presidential visit happens and there weren't 34 ships or even an aircraft carrier re-assigned for this?
17 posted on 11/04/2010 2:42:26 PM PDT by 84rules ( Ooh-Rah! Semper Fi!)
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To: 84rules

“Admiral, make it 33 or 35 ships and swap the Aircraft Carrier for a Helicopter Carrier so I can have press secretary Gibbs deny the story in its entirety.”

“Aye, Aye, Mr. President.”


18 posted on 11/04/2010 2:43:42 PM PDT by Iron Munro (This is our culture; fight for it. This is our flag; pick it up. This is our country; take it back.)
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To: Naplm
Security concerns are understandable. However, it seems very unlikely that for the White House to post a total dollar amount for the trip, with a promise to provide detailed figures after President Obama et al return safely to the White House, would raise legitimate security concerns. Since we are paying for the thing, it is reasonable to have that much now.

We can wait for the final figures and see whether they add up to the posted total.
19 posted on 11/04/2010 2:45:25 PM PDT by DanMiller (Dan Miller)
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To: 84rules

Just routine maneuvers-—Near Mumbai.


20 posted on 11/04/2010 2:45:40 PM PDT by lstanle
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To: 84rules

Even one ship is one too many.


21 posted on 11/04/2010 2:45:44 PM PDT by Hillarys Gate Cult
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To: Frantzie
The military brass will do what ever he says.

Within limits.

22 posted on 11/04/2010 2:46:47 PM PDT by null and void (We are now in day 652 of our national holiday from reality. - 0bama really isn't one of US.)
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To: 84rules

Does anyone have Julian Assange’s phone number?

Where’s Wikileaks when you need ‘em?


23 posted on 11/04/2010 2:47:12 PM PDT by sodpoodle (Despair; man's surrender. Laughter; God's redemption.)
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To: 84rules

Someone had to crush the story. I already don’t like Obama. I don’t need worthless rumors to add to that.

*****************

They dilute the effect of the valid issues too.


24 posted on 11/04/2010 2:47:37 PM PDT by Psalm 144 (We are going to punish our enemies, get in their faces and punch back twice as hard.)
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To: throwback
Pentagon Dismisses Reports of 34 Warships for Obama Trip Security
Luis Martinez
ABC News
November 4, 2010
25 posted on 11/04/2010 2:47:39 PM PDT by 84rules ( Ooh-Rah! Semper Fi!)
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To: Iron Munro
Just make it 2 aircraft carriers....one for Michelle la Bell Antoinette Obama
26 posted on 11/04/2010 2:47:43 PM PDT by spokeshave (Islamics and Democrats unite to cut off Adam Smith's invisible hand)
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To: 84rules
Warships Rumors Are Not True

Imagine that. These obviously unreliable reports from India turned out to be false after all.

And yet there were dozens of FReepers who piled on to them, spewing venom from every orifice.

If I were a bad guy (e.g., a Democrat operative), and I were worried about Tea Party types, I might just use that sort of response to make the Tea Partiers jump in all directions until they collapse from sheer exhaustion.

Maybe this will clue some folks in on the need to start using a bit more common sense where sensational stories are concerned.

But I am not optimistic.

27 posted on 11/04/2010 2:49:42 PM PDT by r9etb
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To: 84rules


28 posted on 11/04/2010 2:50:48 PM PDT by Diogenesis ('Freedom is the light of all sentient beings.' - Optimus Prime)
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To: 84rules

Does our Navy even have 34 ships anymore? Just asking.


29 posted on 11/04/2010 2:51:48 PM PDT by Red Dog #1
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To: Red Dog #1

288


30 posted on 11/04/2010 2:53:55 PM PDT by maggief
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To: ASOC

“What matters is that the story is completely believable to most Americans.”

And, may I add, many Americans don’t believe one word coming from the WH.


31 posted on 11/04/2010 2:55:50 PM PDT by maggief
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To: 84rules

Ironic that the American taxpayer will be spending perhaps half a billion dollars a day to insure that scumbag’s security while he’s working overtime to strip the country of any semblance of security, either in its physical security or its financial security.


32 posted on 11/04/2010 3:03:09 PM PDT by LibWhacker
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To: ASOC

Democrats taught us that the truth of the charge doesn’t matter so much as the seriousness of the charge.


33 posted on 11/04/2010 3:05:02 PM PDT by DManA
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To: Responsibility2nd

White House spokesman Tommy Vietor shot down the $200 million-a-day figure — to put the outrageous sum in context, that’s 5 million times Rachael Ray’s recommended $40 a day.

“The numbers reported in this article have no basis in reality. Due to security concerns, we are unable to outline details associated with security procedures and costs, but it’s safe to say these numbers are wildly inflated,” Vietor said.

Pentagon spokesman Geoff Morrell also outright rejected the claim that 34 warships would patrol the Mumbai coast while Obama is in town.

“I think there has been a lot of creative writing that’s been done on this trip over the last few days,” he said. “We obviously have some support role for presidential travel ... but I will take the liberty this time of dismissing as absolutely absurd, this notion that somehow we are deploying 10 percent of the Navy, some 34 ships and an aircraft carrier in support of the president’s trip to Asia — that’s just comical.

http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2010/11/04/security-entourage-earning-epic-reputation-ahead-obama-india-visit/


34 posted on 11/04/2010 3:06:35 PM PDT by ilovesarah2012
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To: Hillarys Gate Cult

reminds one of Bush’s fly into Iraq on Thanksgiving with just AirForce one....during an on going war...makes this president look like a little girly boy


35 posted on 11/04/2010 3:09:34 PM PDT by goat granny
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To: r9etb

Imagine that. These obviously unreliable reports from India turned out to be false after all.....

_____________________________________

Wow. I wish we were all as smart as you.

I wish we could believe some no-name blogger who takes his orders from the Pentagon - who takes their orders from the White Hut.

But you must be right. Because Robert Gibbs has also denounced these silly rumors, so they MUST be false.

Why - even Snopes has shoen them as false.


36 posted on 11/04/2010 3:11:24 PM PDT by Responsibility2nd (Yes, as a matter of fact, what you do in your bedroom IS my business.)
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To: ilovesarah2012

Wow. If White House and Pentagon spokesperson are denying this 200 million dollar per day report, then it MUST be false.

Don’t forget - Snopes has debunked it too.

/sarc


37 posted on 11/04/2010 3:13:48 PM PDT by Responsibility2nd (Yes, as a matter of fact, what you do in your bedroom IS my business.)
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To: Responsibility2nd
(Coconuts of Mass Destruction)

Good one! Still laughing!!!

38 posted on 11/04/2010 3:16:48 PM PDT by azishot
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To: 84rules
"“I will say I think $200 million a day does sound pretty over the top,” he said. “Yes, it is several million dollars for the president to be somewhere overseas. …. But $200 million is way, way out of line.

That figure is in line with – how much does it cost to secure an Olympic site for two weeks or a summit?”

Answer: $1.8 billion

39 posted on 11/04/2010 3:18:06 PM PDT by NoLibZone (Homosexuals oppose diversity.)
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To: goat granny
Did somebody say "girly boy"?


40 posted on 11/04/2010 3:20:36 PM PDT by ProtectOurFreedom
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To: NoLibZone

This isn’t the Olympics or a major multi-national summit. It is a Presidential visit. Either way, the 34 ship rumor is false.


41 posted on 11/04/2010 3:22:31 PM PDT by 84rules ( Ooh-Rah! Semper Fi!)
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To: 84rules

A more likely scenario?

When the criticism began to take root and bite those who supported and conceived of the trip pushed the 37 Ship story which appears to be false.. When they stood on the story the idea is that criticism of the real extravagances will be blunted/less effective.

W


42 posted on 11/04/2010 3:23:15 PM PDT by WLR (Remember 911 Remember 91 Iran delinda est.)
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To: Cicero
So, this article is based on a tip by an anonymous defense official who refuses to say anything about how many ships there are? Wow, that's convincing evidence!

Are you convinced by the story about the 34 ships in the "Press Trust of India, which did not indicate where this information came from"?

43 posted on 11/04/2010 3:29:33 PM PDT by Bubba Ho-Tep ("More weight!"--Giles Corey)
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To: 84rules

First off this story is BS.

An aircraft carrier is not some floating island but rather a platform for Air operations and it is, in fact, part of a flotilla.


44 posted on 11/04/2010 3:35:29 PM PDT by Vendome (Don't take life so seriously... You'll never live through it.)
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To: 84rules

Credible source?


45 posted on 11/04/2010 3:37:27 PM PDT by Judith Anne (Holy Mary, Mother of God, please pray for us sinners now and at the hour of our death.)
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To: 84rules

Oh and the trip was on the news last night and they discussed the cost.

So this low level blogger ain’t playing with a full deck.


46 posted on 11/04/2010 3:38:11 PM PDT by Vendome (Don't take life so seriously... You'll never live through it.)
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To: 84rules

Based on the who and what else he is taking with him to India, I wouldn’t plan a trip anywhere near Washington D.C. while he is out of the country. A shrewd dictator might see it as a gathering place of his enemies and return after the huge unfortunate crisis with great powers, martial law and his regulatory entourage intact.
This trip has a kind of 1930’s echo to it.


47 posted on 11/04/2010 3:40:16 PM PDT by Steamburg (The contents of your wallet is the only language Politicians understand.)
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To: 84rules
The Czar of Boat Rumors chimes in...


Frowning takes 68 muscles.
Smiling takes 6.
Pulling this trigger takes 2.
I'm lazy.

48 posted on 11/04/2010 3:48:29 PM PDT by The Comedian (I really missed you. Next time, I'll adjust for windage.)
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To: Paladin2

> “Probably 70 ships.” <

There probably will be at least an Amphibious Readiness Group nearby with a Marine Expeditionary Unit aboard to rescue The One if needed... at least five ships from the “Gator Navy.”


49 posted on 11/04/2010 4:04:04 PM PDT by Joe Marine 76 (Semper Fi!)
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To: Responsibility2nd
Wow. I wish we were all as smart as you.

Hey, common sense is a gift, but it's not all that uncommon.

As for you: grow up.

50 posted on 11/04/2010 4:14:22 PM PDT by r9etb
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