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Why Angle Lost
Pajamas Media ^ | November 6, 2010 | John Ransom

Posted on 11/06/2010 4:54:39 AM PDT by Kaslin

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To: Jim Robinson
You have to do the best with what you got, but we need to be in a position to be better. Rubio is not a miracle man. There are candidates like him in every state in this country, and not a few of them, either -- but the work has to be done. The difference between a Rubio and an Angle or Buck at the top of the ticket is early candidate recruitment and a strong, many-month-long effort to rally conservatives around the right choice.
181 posted on 11/06/2010 1:24:40 PM PDT by only1percent
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To: dirtboy
If the guy who won is a Democrat it is always necessary to attribute the loss to vote fraud ~ (1) Because it is probably true and (2) Because it brands the Democrats.

No one here should defend the Democrats.

182 posted on 11/06/2010 1:27:52 PM PDT by muawiyah (GIT OUT THE WAY ~ REPUBLICANS COMIN' THROUGH)
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To: muawiyah
I'm sorry, but actingly like every Dem win is because of vote fraud is a cop-out. And it is not defending Dems to state such.

We need to get voter id laws passed to help prevent vote fraud - but also need to make sure we are putting as much time and skill and energy into our GOTV efforts as the Dems do, if not more. That attitude is how Bush won in 2004.

183 posted on 11/06/2010 1:36:23 PM PDT by dirtboy
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To: only1percent

There are no doubt people in every state like him, but Sharron is the ONE who stepped forward! We support the best CONSERVATIVE on the ballot, and she was it!!

Other than that, check the numbers in Nevada. Last time I looked there was a huge discrepancy in the number of voters who voted for the Republican candidate for governor but the Democrat for senate. Something like 60,000 voters split their vote and gave it to Reid and or otherwise voted for Democrat Reid, but not for the Democrat (Reid’s son) for governor. Now, that just doesn’t hold water!!


184 posted on 11/06/2010 1:37:47 PM PDT by Jim Robinson (Rebellion is brewing!! Nuke the corrupt commie bastards to HELL!!)
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To: muawiyah

or Dick Durbin....but both give a more modern look to the Dems than Harry.

Whereas, the Pubbies are looking relatively hip baaabeee !
Seriously, in total, we are looking more current, especially if Michelle Bachmann gets into leadership. I don’t know Henserling, but he sounds pretty together. Boehner, Ryan, Cantor, the California rep. Mitch is the only leader looking a bit long in the tooth...on par with Durbin or Chucky, but still better than Harry.


185 posted on 11/06/2010 1:46:25 PM PDT by chiller ( EVERY Democrat on EVERY level must go)
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To: Kaslin

Voter Fraud & the casinos telling their employees who to vote for-Reid. I won’t be going to Harah’s anymore. By the way we need to get rid of all unions. If a Democrat is behind they find “a bag or two of votes” in a car etc.” Unions were needed 50 years ago but now are a bunch of thugs & take Union dues & give it to the Progressives.


186 posted on 11/06/2010 1:48:12 PM PDT by jrcats (Obama -Soros's puppet!)
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To: Jim Robinson

That’s the problem. Toomey, Rand Paul, Joe Miller, all no Nevadans. My starting point was obviously how g*dawful Harry Reid is as a senator. But I do realize that my sarcasm was denigrating Angle and thus unfair towards her.


187 posted on 11/06/2010 1:58:02 PM PDT by wolf78 (Inflation is a form of taxation, too. Cranky Libertarian - equal opportunity offender.)
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To: CharlesWayneCT; ladyvet

It didn’t help that she didn’t carry Mineral County or Reno, both of which she should have carried, she was likely hurt in Elko because Reid came out at the 11th hour and made promises he would not support cap n trade and shut down their mining operations, he is a wiley old fox...... she was likely hurt by her late in the campaign comments on hispanics along with Reid’s Dream Act promises.


188 posted on 11/06/2010 2:13:03 PM PDT by Arizona Carolyn
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To: xzins

When are the voters going to rise up and demand an end to electronic voting machines?


189 posted on 11/06/2010 2:15:12 PM PDT by Arizona Carolyn
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To: muawiyah
Both Democrats and Republicans have runoffs in Texas. The only restrictions are that candidates must vote in the party primary in which they are running and if you vote in one party's primary, you can't vote in the other party's runoff.

I think that if we didn't have a primary runoff the Republican candidate in my house district would have not been strong enough to have beaten the 14-term congressman in my district. The front runner in the primary who had just over 32% in the primary lost the runoff to the second place finisher who had 30%. The process of campaigning for the runoff exposed some of the front runner's flaws especially in the candidate debates even though he was a much better looking candidate than the second place finisher who eventually won the runoff.

190 posted on 11/06/2010 2:15:14 PM PDT by Paleo Conservative
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To: CynicalBear

When was Angle ever up by double digits? She never had a fraud-proof (for Nevada).


191 posted on 11/06/2010 2:24:19 PM PDT by Arizona Carolyn
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To: dirtboy
No, it's not a cop-out ~ it's a way to encourage the Democrats to quit cheating.

You know they aren't going to stop it unless they have to pay a penalty, and dirtying up their brand is a doggone good way to get them to deal with it.

With the survival of civilization at stake we have to consider this a war, and somewhere short of just shooting, them we have to do everything we can to keep them on the straight and narrow.

Failing to do so is to betray our progeny and the future of America.

192 posted on 11/06/2010 2:36:28 PM PDT by muawiyah (GIT OUT THE WAY ~ REPUBLICANS COMIN' THROUGH)
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To: Arizona Carolyn

We must move toward purely electronic voting machines and away from scantron. It is entirely too easy to corrupt any system with paper in the audit trail.


193 posted on 11/06/2010 2:38:41 PM PDT by muawiyah (GIT OUT THE WAY ~ REPUBLICANS COMIN' THROUGH)
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To: muawiyah

So far noone here in NV has found evidence of vote fraud on the scale it would have taken to really make a difference.

Angle’s misstatements and bloopers combined with the tight relationship Reid has with the the buisness community here and in LV resulted in her loss. It did not help her to tell pregnant raped women to ‘make lemonade’ of their situation, nor the veiled threat to use the ‘second amendment’ if she lost at the polls. Her campaign was amateurish.


194 posted on 11/06/2010 2:38:48 PM PDT by rahbert
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To: Jim Robinson

Yes, it does hold water. It was like Junior Soprano deciding who he’s better off with, Ritchie Aprile or Tony Soprano. In the
end the voters chose the competant (in local matters) Harry Reid.


195 posted on 11/06/2010 2:41:26 PM PDT by rahbert
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To: Arizona Carolyn

Sooner rather than later.

The electronic system is fraud just waiting to happen.


196 posted on 11/06/2010 2:45:04 PM PDT by xzins (Freep-a-thon--Anyone can do a min of $10, OR you must believe in welfare, cause someone pays for you)
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To: rahbert

Right. What is the unemployment rate again in Nevada?


197 posted on 11/06/2010 2:47:30 PM PDT by Jim Robinson (Rebellion is brewing!! Nuke the corrupt commie bastards to HELL!!)
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To: Arizona Carolyn
I posted

>> Isn’t it interesting that every arm chair quarter back would have had the candidate up by double digits<<

Then you asked

When was Angle ever up by double digits? She never had a fraud-proof (for Nevada).

If you re read my post does your question still make sense?

198 posted on 11/06/2010 2:49:27 PM PDT by CynicalBear
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To: muawiyah

You mean like the SEIU controlled machines they used in Nevada? Funny how we never seem to have complaints here in AZ where we fill in a paper ballot with the little black circles and then watch while our ballot is scanned; and I think it is high time we got away from voting by mail in WA, OR, as well as all this absentee voting. If you are in town and breathing on election day show up at the polls and vote in person.


199 posted on 11/06/2010 2:52:59 PM PDT by Arizona Carolyn
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To: Jim Robinson
With all due respect Mr. Robinson I AM NOT an abortion supporter nor am I an idiot. I just said that being antiabortion hurt Angle in Vegas. I told you this would happen several weeks ago. Kick me off if you want but I will put my conservative credentials up against yours any day. I busted my a$$ to get Angle elected at the cost of lost work and family time.

AND NO I NEVER STABBED ANYONE IN THE BACK! Accept the facts as they are.

200 posted on 11/06/2010 2:56:38 PM PDT by mad_as_he$$ (Playing by the rules only works if both sides do it!)
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