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Just Spoke W/ Very Senior Ret. USAF Officer. Says USAF, NORAD, Etc. Have "No Clue" About Missile.
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Posted on 11/09/2010 2:03:14 PM PST by MindBender26

Just spoke with old friend, very senior retired USAF general officer/pilot. Says his contacts, many of whom were his "boys," have no idea what Pacific missile is/was

As I was calling him, he was calling me to run my old network traps to see if anyone at the network desks in NY or DC have any idea what this was!

Data from video seems to be that it was large, ballistic, (not cruise) sub-launched. Course seemed to be trans-polar, so could have impacted in Arctic, Russian Far East, China, etc.

Current guesses... and these are wild guesses (some from the O Club at his lunch)

1: Crazy Russian or Chinese sub captain. No explosion because they didn't want one, or captain did not have correct codes for the PAL.

2: Islamic.......... ????? Demonstration?????

3: Hoax... but that seems way to far fetched.

Navy is also supposedly bat sh*t over this because there was no acoustic detection of sub!

NORAD scratching head ????

There may be an explanation, but no one knows what it was... or is!


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To: MindBender26
It would be SUCH a pity if the DPRK nuked San Fran with a surplus USSR boomer, while Obo was futzing around back home in Indonesia...

I think I might even feel annoyed.

By the way, is Botox Nan back home, talking to her loyal minions? Be too bad if...

That would be some crisis, tho...

41 posted on 11/09/2010 2:13:42 PM PST by jonascord (The Tea Party just gave the Republican senators an ice water enema.)
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To: LRS

Yeah, maybe it’s possible that Obama butt-dialed the launch codes on his blackberry...


42 posted on 11/09/2010 2:13:50 PM PST by bigbob
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To: JoSixChip
China sending a message about QE2?

Helicopter Ben decided that he needs a more forceful method of delivering money. The Intercontinental Bernanke Missile capable of delivering 10 independently delivered packages of 100 gigadollars each.

43 posted on 11/09/2010 2:14:45 PM PST by KarlInOhio (Dems' response to 11/2: Do not go gentle into that new day,Rage,rage against the coming of the dawn!)
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To: MindBender26

Dr Evil is holding the leaders of our nations hostage for the staggering sum of ONE MILLION DOLLARS!


44 posted on 11/09/2010 2:15:20 PM PST by stefanbatory (Insert witty tagline here)
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To: MindBender26

Worst case of clueless stupidity on display over there since 1923. (Honda Pt. pileup.)


45 posted on 11/09/2010 2:15:34 PM PST by 668 - Neighbor of the Beast (Save the liver!)
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To: MindBender26

MindBender, any idea why the MSM have been pretty much ignoring this?

Maybe they know/think it was just an optical illusion?


46 posted on 11/09/2010 2:15:51 PM PST by roses of sharon (I can do all things through Him who strengthens me. Philippians 4:13)
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To: MindBender26

A large flock of birds?


47 posted on 11/09/2010 2:15:51 PM PST by devere
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To: MindBender26
NORAD scratching head ????

Idiots. 4,000 people stuck on a cruise ship in the area, with no working toilets. They served chile at the buffet last night. Some fool lit a match.

48 posted on 11/09/2010 2:16:21 PM PST by Cementjungle
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To: DontTreadOnMe2009

Can’t detect a sub if you’re not listening. Did Obama reverse the Bush administration policy on Active Sonar off the CA coast? This could be the ChiComs testing our ears and they got a JIN Type 094 Boomer behind our lines and test fired a JL-2 missile which was scheduled to be operational in 2010. Launch and quietly go home.


49 posted on 11/09/2010 2:16:24 PM PST by massgopguy (I owe everything to George Bailey)
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To: MindBender26
Could it be China warning the US after Obama's visit to India.

http://www.kashmirwatch.com/showarticles.php?subaction=showfull&id=1289331373&archive=&start_from=&ucat=3&var0news=value0news

US Strategy to Pitch India against China

Kashmir Watch, Nov 9

By Zaheerul Hassan

The other angle of the visit depicts that Obama’s visit would be adding tension between China-India and Pakistan. Obama has also broadcasted his underline message more openly as compare to the past i.e. making India militarily and economically strong. The American’s president visit and arms pacts with India are being viewed with concern by the China, Pakistan, Russia and Sri Lanka. An arms race, conventional and nuclear, between India and china is now gaining prominence as India is building her weapon piles increasing day by day. Some analysts have also started to view India competing with China in an arms race rather than acquiring weapons merely for defensive purposes. It is mentionable here that India is also developing her nuclear and missile system with the help of Israel and US. The UN Watchdog “IAEA’ should inspect Indian nuclear programme since it has pathetic security arrangement and could prove danger to the human lives again. Though, Indian concerned authorities are trying to tighten the security at nuke plant sites but no worthwhile improvement has been yet noticed. Recently, security was tightened in Maharashtra's Ratnagiri district after villagers clashed with officials of the Nuclear Power Corporation of India. The corporation was constructing a cluster of nuclear power plants in Ratnagiri under the Indo-US nuclear agreement. The villagers, opposing the nuclear establishment, attacked and chased away the officials who were visiting the villages to take soil samples. India is also planning to buy Israeli Missile System. New Delhi has also launched major effort to develop laser weapons for military applications. Reportedly, Indian military is working on laser weapons for deploying on its submarines, destroyers, air force fighters and transport planes.

Actually, Indo-US-Israel collaboration is emerging the world most dangerous collaboration. Few days back, US National Security Adviser Tom Donilon while briefing reporters said that Obama intends the trip to be "a full embrace of India's rise." At this occasion Indian officials Shivshankar Menon endorsed that he doesn’t think that there’s an area of human endeavor in which we do not actually cooperate.

In this connection, very authenticated reports illustrated that: (one) Israeli systems are being tested in India, (two) India is a stake-holder in Iron Dome and David's Sling systems as these are being tested in India, (two) systems have been tested in controlled environment and thus have not gained the un-questioned confidence of Indian side, (fourth) Japanese were also called for demonstration of Israeli missile systems. They remained skeptical and un-committed; (fifth)India is also persisting with its Prithvi Air Defence System PAD in order to keep its intentions are to contain China and stopped Pakistan for further developments.

As a matter of fact after disintegration of Soviet Union, uni-polar system emerged. The new great game and number of new cold wars like: Indo-Pak, Indo-China, North- South Korea, US-Iran and Sri Lanka-India have been started. The regional and global security environment has been changed drastically because of 9/11, American invasions in Iraq and Afghanistan. India took U-turn and became U.S regional and global ally against China and Russia. India in its pursuit of acquiring high technology has been making headway both politically and scientifically. Recently, Indian Defense Minister, AK Antony, to the US marked the highlight of Indo-US relation. Mr Antony had meetings with Secretary Gates, Secretary Clinton and NSA James Jones. Obama administration has been pushing India in awarding defense contracts to the American companies. Indian who is already purchasing arms to restructure her armed forces has welcomed US lucrative defense contracts for transferring high technology.

Concluding I must say that though Obama tried to adopt balanced approach while talking about India Pakistan issues but never forgotten his ultimate objective of putting India against China. The arms race between China and India would definitely going to be speed up. She already tested Agni-II, a revamped Agni-II in the Wheeler Island, off the Orissa coast. Agni-II has two stages and both are powered by solid propellants. It has several features of advanced technology. The missile, which can carry nuclear warheads, can be transported both by rail and road. Its projected range is 2750 to 3000 km. Indian second missile system Agni-III is ready for Operational Induction. According to Defence Minister Mr A K Antony, the 3000 km range Agni-III missile is ready for induction into the armed forces. The nuclear capable ballistic missile would give a boost to India's credible minimum deterrence as no other missile in the Indian arsenal has the range to strike targets deep inside China. She also carried out Strategic Weapons Storages in Bikaner, Jodhpur, Jallandar, Jaisalmer, Bhuj, Bhatinda and Barmer.

World community and US administration should know that Indian design of storage, deployment, development of nuke weapons and recently concluded defence pacts with Israel and USA are serious threats to the regional and global peace. There is a need to stop and condemn Indian aggressive nature of expansionism rather than declaring her a great power and future member of Security Council.

Posted on 10 Nov 2010 by Webmaster
50 posted on 11/09/2010 2:16:47 PM PST by ncfool (The new USSA - United Socialst States of AmeriKa. Welcome to Obummers world or Obamaville USSA.)
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To: MindBender26

Rove!! You magnificent...uh, you know.


51 posted on 11/09/2010 2:17:16 PM PST by lawnguy (The function of wisdom is to discriminate between good and evil-Cicero)
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To: MindBender26

They should certainly know where it went.


52 posted on 11/09/2010 2:17:30 PM PST by Paladin2
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To: MindBender26
so could have impacted in Arctic, Russian Far East, China, etc.
With thousands of US satellites in space, we don't know where a "rouge" missile landed? BS.
53 posted on 11/09/2010 2:17:59 PM PST by oh8eleven (RVN '67-'68)
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To: afnamvet

Probably called Obama and when asked what should we tell the media, he said “Huh”.


54 posted on 11/09/2010 2:18:04 PM PST by Sacajaweau
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To: Las Vegas Ron
Food for thought, but the idea NORAD doesn’t know is pure BS.

Yep.

And if the British/French/Chinese/Russians (the only folks, besides us, who can launch an SLBM) did this, every hull in San Diego would be at sea chasing down the sub and every Navy/Marine aircraft in Southern California would be over the Pacific looking doing the same thing.

Plus we would probably be at Defcon 3.

Any of that happening?

55 posted on 11/09/2010 2:18:12 PM PST by hc87
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To: Paladin2

Or be sacked for sleeping while on watch.


56 posted on 11/09/2010 2:18:40 PM PST by Paladin2
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To: MindBender26
BREAKING HARD!!!!!!!!
 
THIS JUST IN. THE PENTAGON HAS JUST RELEASED AN IMAGE OF THAT MISSILE...
 



57 posted on 11/09/2010 2:18:46 PM PST by Responsibility2nd (Yes, as a matter of fact, what you do in your bedroom IS my business.)
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To: MindBender26

I’ll guess underwater space aliens for $200, Alex. ;-)


58 posted on 11/09/2010 2:19:03 PM PST by OB1kNOb (I glory in the afterglow of watching a defeated Blanche Lincoln cry during her concession speech.)
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To: MindBender26
Anybody got any bright ideas?

The Dems "October Surprise" getting off late?

59 posted on 11/09/2010 2:19:17 PM PST by Don Corleone ("Oil the gun..eat the cannolis. Take it to the Mattress.")
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To: Abathar

Naw. I’ve been out to Black Rock with friends shooting these rockets and they don’t make that big a contrail. This was something larger than a hobby rocket.


60 posted on 11/09/2010 2:19:20 PM PST by MeganC (January 20, 2013)
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