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Military Says Missile-Like Object Wasn't Missile (but, Times of London Expert Says...Missile)
CBS News ^ | David Martin

Posted on 11/10/2010 9:00:55 AM PST by roses of sharon

(CBS) More than a day after a CBS camera caught video of an unidentified projectile leaving a condensation trail off the California coast, the situation remains a mystery, with the Defense Department insisting that it was not a missile.

The Pentagon is still not sure what that was in the sky off the coast of California -- except that it was not a missile fired by the U.S. or some other country, reports CBS News Pentagon correspondent David Martin.

The video of what looks for all the world like the contrail of a missile was shot Monday evening by KCBS cameraman Gil Leyvas from a news helicopter over Los Angeles.

"I saw a big plume coming up, rising from looked like beyond the horizon and it continued to grow," Leyvas said.

He zoomed his camera in and stayed on it for about 10 minutes. To him it looked like an incoming missile.

"It was unique. It was moving," he said. "It was growing in the sky."

The Pentagon spends billions of dollars a year making sure it is never surprised by a missile launch - so finding out what the camera saw became a top priority. Both the Navy and the Air Force insisted they had not launched any missiles and the North American Air Defense Command - which is supposed to track incoming missiles - declared it had not been fired by any other military. But nobody could say what it was.

But Doug Richardson, the editor of Jane’s Missiles and Rockets, examined the video for the Times of London and said he was left with little doubt.

"It’s a solid propellant missile," he told the Times. "You can tell from the efflux [smoke]."

Richardson said it could have been a ballistic missile launched from a submarine or an interceptor, the defensive anti-missile weapon used by Navy surface ships.

The Twitterati had a field day Tuesday, tweeting comments like "Can someone please tell me how our Department of Defense has no idea who launched a missile from California's coast?"; "So nobody in our government or military knows? Scary."; and "If you misplaced a missile off the coast of California, the U.S. government would like to have a few words with you."

The Federal Aviation Administration did not receive any reports of a missile from other pilots in the area or track any unusually fast objects. The Air Defense Command determined the object was not traveling fast enough or have a big enough exhaust plume to be a military missile.

The best guess right now is that it was either an airliner or an amateur rocket, but we may never know for certain.


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(the battle of the experts!)

But Doug Richardson, the editor of Jane’s Missiles and Rockets, examined the video for the Times of London and said he was left with little doubt.

"It’s a solid propellant missile," he told the Times. "You can tell from the efflux [smoke]."

Richardson said it could have been a ballistic missile launched from a submarine or an interceptor, the defensive anti-missile weapon used by Navy surface ships

1 posted on 11/10/2010 9:01:01 AM PST by roses of sharon
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To: roses of sharon

It must have shot down the aircraft that was on that flight path and at that altitude and replaced the crew and plane with dopplegangers who landed and went on their way.


2 posted on 11/10/2010 9:03:44 AM PST by Gondring (Paul Revere would have been flamed as a naysayer troll and told to go back to Boston.)
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To: roses of sharon

It was obviously a weather balloon!


3 posted on 11/10/2010 9:04:01 AM PST by SonOfDarkSkies (Obama to Dems: 'Those GD American voters stole the election!')
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To: roses of sharon

Give it a few days. Whoever did the one yesterday is probably going to try again. It’s not like our Dept. of Defense seems to care or anything, so if you’re a bad guy who’s doing something you shouldn’t be doing, why would you be afraid of this administration?


4 posted on 11/10/2010 9:04:46 AM PST by library user
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To: roses of sharon
Had to laugh when I saw this
5 posted on 11/10/2010 9:05:25 AM PST by FromLori (FromLori)
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My 3rd cousin’s college roommate’s moose-bitten sister wrote on her Facebook that her Uncle Freddy tweeted he saw it and it’s for real a plane - it was right after someone moved his cheese while he was in the shower and his beeber was in the shop from too much stunning. And he was logged in too.


6 posted on 11/10/2010 9:05:44 AM PST by Keith in Iowa (FR Class of 1998 | TV News is an oxymoron. | MSNBC = Moonbats Spouting Nothing But Crap.)
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To: roses of sharon
I believe that very large amateur rockets must registered with the FAA. And they are not typically launched from 35 miles out to sea. This wasn't an amateur.

They are trying to pin this on an airliner coming from Hawaii (flight 808) but I think that is very unconvincing (FAA radar showed no planes in the area).

It looks like a missile, and all the other explanations ring false.
Conclusion: Our government is lying.

7 posted on 11/10/2010 9:05:59 AM PST by ClearCase_guy
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To: roses of sharon

I’m no expert, but I did shoot missiles in the Navy. It did look suspciously like a solid propellant missile, just like the Talos missiles I used to help shoot.


8 posted on 11/10/2010 9:06:20 AM PST by brownsfan (D - swift death of the republic, R - lingering death for the republic.)
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To: SonOfDarkSkies

It was obviously a weather balloon!

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Whale spume. Really big whale.


9 posted on 11/10/2010 9:06:30 AM PST by Psalm 144
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To: roses of sharon

Regarding this missile event, things can be broken down to two basic questions: is the executive branch merely incompetent, or is it outright malignant?


10 posted on 11/10/2010 9:07:13 AM PST by reasonisfaith (Rules will never work for radicals (liberals) because they seek chaos. And don't even know it.)
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To: roses of sharon

It was a whale fart.


11 posted on 11/10/2010 9:07:18 AM PST by pallis
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To: roses of sharon
I bet it was an anti ICBM test, possibly from a sub. Was there any launches of targets recently?

Mike

12 posted on 11/10/2010 9:07:18 AM PST by MichaelP (It's a start!!!)
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To: roses of sharon

USO.


13 posted on 11/10/2010 9:08:15 AM PST by Signalman
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To: roses of sharon

What are ballon-boy and his parents up to these days?


14 posted on 11/10/2010 9:09:12 AM PST by KosmicKitty (WARNING: Hormonally crazed woman ahead!!)
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To: roses of sharon
If this were Flight 808 out of Honolulu to LA wouldn't people have tracked it all the way into Southern Cal?

This just doesn't look at all like an airliner's contrail from approach angle or composition.

15 posted on 11/10/2010 9:09:28 AM PST by bereanway (I'd rather have 40 Marco Rubios than 60 Arlen Specters)
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To: Gondring
One would think that it would be trivially EASY to show that a regularly scheduled airliner was INDEED on that exact flight path at THAT EXACT TIME. Has that been done?

If it was such a "common" occurance, why did the experienced arial observer freak out and cause all the commotion?

BTW, I think it was nothing extraordinary. But what the hell was it?

16 posted on 11/10/2010 9:09:29 AM PST by Huebolt (It's not over until there is not ONE DEMOCRAT HOLDING OFFICE ANYWHERE. Not even a dog catcher!)
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To: Gondring

maybe it is obama’s failed attempts to attack the only state in 50 who remains a dem state?


17 posted on 11/10/2010 9:10:25 AM PST by television is just wrong
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To: Keith in Iowa
his beeber was in the shop from too much stunning.

ROTFL!!

18 posted on 11/10/2010 9:11:40 AM PST by library user
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To: reasonisfaith

Every item in the news (or not in the news also) eventually comes down to that question, it seems.


19 posted on 11/10/2010 9:12:04 AM PST by butterdezillion (.)
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To: roses of sharon

My question is do we know the location of all foreign Navy Ballistic Missile Submarines?


20 posted on 11/10/2010 9:13:49 AM PST by Old Retired Army Guy (tHE)
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