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[2007] Chinese sub pops up in the midst of a US carrier battle group
Hot Air ^ | 11/10/2007 | Bryan

Posted on 11/11/2010 1:46:11 AM PST by Sprite518

US Pacific Command’s Adm William Fallon says the group wasn’t conducting anti-sub operations, but the fact remains that the submarine did slip past the group’s security screen undetected and popped up within firing range of the Kitty Hawk.

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Three years to the day! China had a sub pop up in the middle of our Carrier battle group! Then we see a missile off the coast of Los Angeles. Put two and two together folks and get this news out. I'm tired of our government lying to us.

http://hotair.com/archives/2007/11/10/chinese-sub-pops-up-in-the-midst-of-a-us-carrier-battle-group/

1 posted on 11/11/2010 1:46:16 AM PST by Sprite518
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To: Sprite518

http://hotair.com/archives/2007/11/10/chinese-sub-pops-up-in-the-midst-of-a-us-carrier-battle-group/


2 posted on 11/11/2010 1:46:45 AM PST by Sprite518
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To: Sprite518

This is not good on so many levels.


3 posted on 11/11/2010 1:51:08 AM PST by Georgia Girl 2
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To: Sprite518

You heard Savage?


4 posted on 11/11/2010 1:51:48 AM PST by SpaceBar
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To: Sprite518

Obama got caught with his pants on the ground.


5 posted on 11/11/2010 2:00:23 AM PST by screaminsunshine (Americanism vs Communism)
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To: Sprite518

3 year-old article.


6 posted on 11/11/2010 2:01:36 AM PST by bertrand
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To: SpaceBar

Yes... Checked it out.... I’m sold... It needs to get out...


7 posted on 11/11/2010 2:07:15 AM PST by Sprite518
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To: bertrand

I know... Three years to the day. Don’t tell me that was not a missle launch the other day in Los Angeles... Put two and two together..


8 posted on 11/11/2010 2:08:40 AM PST by Sprite518
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To: screaminsunshine

Bingo.. China is pissed at us, and wanted to show us that we are no longer protected like we once were..


9 posted on 11/11/2010 2:10:31 AM PST by Sprite518
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To: screaminsunshine

Please don’t say anything about Zer0 and his pants being off. It’s disgusting.

Is there a coincidence by his trip as far away from the U.S.

Is this why his security is so large?
So may armoured cars and a bomb shelter to boot!

Did he know something special?

I would not hesitate to think that Zer0 would approve of dropping a big one since he got his ears pinned back in this election.


10 posted on 11/11/2010 2:21:29 AM PST by ChiMark
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To: Sprite518
Don’t tell me that was not a missle launch the other day in Los Angeles.

why not?....people believed a jet with it's forward fuselage blown off could climb almost 2 thousand feet with it's CG gone as any 10 yr knows who builds flying planes knows it can't do.

11 posted on 11/11/2010 2:23:31 AM PST by Doogle ((USAF.68-73..8th TFW Ubon Thailand..never store a threat you should have eliminated))
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To: Sprite518
Caution!

An aircraft contrail... and a three year old article... hmmm

12 posted on 11/11/2010 2:26:19 AM PST by missnry (The truth will set you free ... and drive liberals Crazy!)
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To: Sprite518

They want to show first strike capability.


13 posted on 11/11/2010 2:38:18 AM PST by screaminsunshine (Americanism vs Communism)
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To: Sprite518

Wonder if all the new battery technology can be used for China to produce silent deisel electric subs with enough range to slip in to our coasts?


14 posted on 11/11/2010 2:40:12 AM PST by screaminsunshine (Americanism vs Communism)
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To: Sprite518

This kind of thing used to happen with Russian trawlers awaiting the Navy at rondezvous points. Later we learned that it was the result of a spy in the Navy compromising the Navy’s secure communications. Start looking. Do it now!


15 posted on 11/11/2010 2:40:45 AM PST by Rapscallion (The contradictions of Obama's pathology.)
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To: Doogle
"...people believed a jet with it's forward fuselage blown off could climb almost 2 thousand feet with it's CG gone as any ..."

Yeah! Those CIA graphics were really convincing.../sarc

16 posted on 11/11/2010 2:41:33 AM PST by SuperLuminal (Where is another agitator for republicanism like Sam Adams when we need him?)
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To: SuperLuminal
Yeah! Those CIA graphics were really convincing.../sarc

...after conditioning the sheeple for a year in stages

17 posted on 11/11/2010 2:45:05 AM PST by Doogle ((USAF.68-73..8th TFW Ubon Thailand..never store a threat you should have eliminated))
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To: screaminsunshine

November 10, 2010

Chinese EMP Attack Prompts US Missile Strike After Cruise Ship Crippled

By: Sorcha Faal, and as reported to her Western Subscribers

A new report circulating in the Kremlin today prepared for Prime Minister Putin by Director Anatoly Perminov of the Russian Federal Space Agency states that an Arkon-1 military satellite monitoring the western coastal regions of North America detected an “EMP anomalous event” occurring on November 8th at 0600 Pacific Standard Time (-8 hours GMT) that bore the “direct signature” of a YJ-62 subsonic anti-ship missile fired from a Chinese People’s Liberation Navy Type 041 submarine (NATO code name Yuan-Class) [photo 2nd left] known to be patrolling approximately 200 kilometers off United States coast.

Nearly 11 hours after this EMP “event”, this report further says, Arkon-1 then detected a BGM-109 (Tomahawk) subsonic cruise missile launched from a US Navy Ohio-Class submarine operating off the coast of California [photo bottom left] on a “training mission” from its home port located at US Navy’s Kitsap Base in Washington State and was enroute to the largest American Naval Base on the US west coast in San Diego, California.

Note: A Russian military intelligence (GRU) addendum to this report states that the “training mission” the Ohio-Class submarine was on is related to a new US law passed this year allowing for the first time in history for women to serve on US Navy subs and was an “operational exercise” testing female Naval Officers competence prior to their first “operational deployment”.

The “immediate effect” of the Chinese Navy’s firing of their EMP missile, this report continues, was the “catastrophic crippling” of the US based cruise ship Carnival Splendor [photo 3rd left] that stranded its nearly 4,500 passengers and crew in a “dead in the water” boat and prompting the Americans to send the US Navy’s Ronald Reagan aircraft carrier, warplanes, and supply aircraft to protect it from further attack after all of its electronic systems were destroyed.

An electromagnetic pulse (EMP) such as was used upon the Carnival Splendor is a burst of electromagnetic radiation that causes rapidly changing electric fields (or magnetic fields) that when coupling with electrical/electronic systems produces damaging current and voltage surges destroying all non-hardened electrical systems.

The US Naval Surface Warfare Center (NSWC) had previously warned that American ships were vulnerable to such attacks with EMP Assessment Group Leader of Blaise Corbett stating that “the consequences of failing to take appropriate precautions to protect fleet mission critical systems can ultimately prove catastrophic to the Navy’s mission.”

The purpose of this Chinese EMP upon an American ship, this report says, was twofold: 1.) A test of the EMP weapon itself that in a war against the Americans and would be used against their Naval Fleet and Marine Forces operating out of California and the west coast of the US, and 2.) A test of the response time for American retaliatory measures against any Chinese warship attacking the US and/or its interests in the Pacific.

The GRU further states that the timing of this attack was timed even more crucially due to China’s testing of America’s response time during a period when their President, as Commander In Chief of all US Military Forces, was out of the country, as Obama was as he was in India at the time.

The Americans response time of nearly 11 hours between the EMP attack on the Carnival Splendor and the US retaliatory strike, the GRU states, “virtually assured” that the Chinese submarine responsible for the attack escaped, but which they further point out may have been intended by the Americans so as not to escalate this crisis.

To the geo-political reason(s) for a Communist Chinese attack upon the Americans just days before the crucially important G-20 Summit in South Korea, which both President’s Hu and Obama will be attending, this report says was due to the United States, in essence, declaring total economic war upon the rest of the world by its printing of nearly $1 Trillion US Dollars in order to monetize its staggering debt and that China warned:

“If the United States can increase the volume of dollars and it can transmit inflation to other countries to lessen the pressure of debt, then it will bring about a catastrophic influence on the world.”

Typical of the United States propaganda media organs in telling their citizens about the true events relating to this crisis, it as if they have put themselves in total Cold War mode reminiscent of the 1940’s to the late 1980’s when they, likewise, failed to inform them of the many incidents or US Soldier deaths related to that conflict.

Most dangerous about the American people not being informed of the true and tragic state of our world today is their not being able to prepare for the much larger conflicts to come, especially in light of China’s Communists vowing that they won’t go down without a fight. A fight, mind you, that now appears not only a sure thing, but imminent.

© November 10, 2010 EU and US all rights reserved. Permission to use this report in its entirety is granted under the condition it is linked back to its original source at WhatDoesItMean.Com.

[Ed. Note: Western governments and their intelligence services actively campaign against the information found in these reports so as not to alarm their citizens about the many catastrophic Earth changes and events to come, a stance that the Sisters of Sorcha Faal strongly disagrees with in believing that it is every human beings right to know the truth. Due to our missions conflicts with that of those governments, the responses of their ‘agents’ against us has been a longstanding misinformation/misdirection campaign designed to discredit and which is addressed in the report “Who Is Sorcha Faal?”.]

http://www.whatdoesitmean.com/index1421.htm


18 posted on 11/11/2010 2:47:16 AM PST by SF_Redux
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To: SF_Redux

Wouldn’t an EMP disable any devices any electronic devices the passengers carried as well?


19 posted on 11/11/2010 2:57:22 AM PST by Tuscaloosa Goldfinch ( T.G., global warming denier.)
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To: SF_Redux

I am a merchant Mariner. The report is that a fire in one of the six generators on board caused the whole ship to go down. That is ridiculous. But the Passengers are able to use their cellphones. Would not an EMP attack that knocks out a cruise ship knock out cell phones too. Unfortunately the report you site is fully believable considering the Leadership in Washington.


20 posted on 11/11/2010 2:59:45 AM PST by screaminsunshine (Americanism vs Communism)
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To: SpaceBar

What did Savage say????? Any possible links to the audio?

Thanks,
LVD


21 posted on 11/11/2010 3:00:50 AM PST by Las Vegas Dave (To anger a Conservative, tell him a lie. To anger a Liberal, tell him the truth.)
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To: SF_Redux

Comes from Sorcha Faal....dubious source. “She” is like the classygreeneyedblonde of yore here at FR.


22 posted on 11/11/2010 3:11:18 AM PST by LexRex in TN ("A republic, if you can keep it.......")
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To: screaminsunshine

>Would not an EMP attack that knocks out a cruise ship knock out cell phones too.

not if they were turned off at the time


23 posted on 11/11/2010 3:34:27 AM PST by SF_Redux
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To: SF_Redux

Sure hope that report is tinfoil. Yikes. Anyone in communication with any passengers on the Cruise Ship ?


24 posted on 11/11/2010 3:40:25 AM PST by justa-hairyape
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To: SF_Redux
not if they were turned off at the time

Semiconductors are affected by EMP whether they are energized or not.

25 posted on 11/11/2010 3:44:29 AM PST by Mamba56 (We herd sheep, we drive cattle, we lead people. Lead me, follow me, or get out of my way. - Patton)
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To: SF_Redux
Interesting quote from a news article.

When asked about the day of the explosion, Gilbreath said, "The ship started shaking. And then a couple of our friends on deck saw smoke coming out of the smoke stack. Right after that, the captain started saying 'Alpha team to engine room.' Then all of a sudden, everything went down … we were in what they call the 'blackout.'"

Tugboats Tow Disabled Cruise Ship To San Diego

Coast Guard Cutters are currently flanking the Cruise Ship. The blaze supposedly began at 6 am. Roughly about 10-12 hours before the possible missile launch.

26 posted on 11/11/2010 3:49:31 AM PST by justa-hairyape
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To: Mamba56

Not if they were inside the protection of the metal hull of the ship, would they?


27 posted on 11/11/2010 3:52:05 AM PST by Concho
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To: SF_Redux

People turn off their cell phones?

Really?


28 posted on 11/11/2010 3:54:18 AM PST by PeteB570 (Islam is the sea in which the terrorist shark swims. It aids & comforts the shark on it's journey.)
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To: screaminsunshine

What do you really think happens on all those back woods golf outings?


29 posted on 11/11/2010 3:58:57 AM PST by FreeAtlanta (Hey, Barack "Hubris" Obama, what are you hiding? Release your Birth Certificate!)
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To: Doogle

“why not?....people believed a jet with it’s forward fuselage blown off could climb almost 2 thousand feet with it’s CG gone as any 10 yr knows who builds flying planes knows it can’t do”

So WHY are they lying to us? Anyone with an IQ approaching room temperature and 15 minutes to read a few things KNOWS THEY ARE LYING. The million dollar question is WHY?

The million dollar answer is EASY to understand and easy to figure out. If I told you the answers you’d argue with me and come up with some ridiculous argument about “they could never participate in a CONSPIRACY, it would take too many people, it would be too hard, too many people would talk, etc.

Meanwhile, every day you are told absolute BS to hide the truth. Want specifics? I won’t waste my time.

http://www.twa800.com/eyewitnesses.htm

http://twa800.com/images/times-8-15-00.gif


30 posted on 11/11/2010 4:03:36 AM PST by politicianslie (A taxpayer voting for Obama is like a chicken voting for Colonel Sandersp>)
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To: screaminsunshine
According to 9news passenger's cell phones and e-mail didn't start working again until Wednesday (antenna range).
31 posted on 11/11/2010 4:05:10 AM PST by conservativeimage.com (Oblablabla)
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To: Sprite518

seek help immediately


32 posted on 11/11/2010 4:10:47 AM PST by Hatteras
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To: Sprite518
Three years to the day! China had a sub pop up in the middle of our Carrier battle group! Then we see a missile off the coast of Los Angeles. Put two and two together folks and get this news out.

It takes three years for a chinese sub to launch a missile?

33 posted on 11/11/2010 4:16:15 AM PST by paulycy (Demand Constitutionality. Save America From Bankruptcy.)
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To: Sprite518

Are we so desperate for news? 2007 article!!


34 posted on 11/11/2010 4:20:49 AM PST by MEG33 (God Bless Our Military Men And Women)
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To: Sprite518

bump


35 posted on 11/11/2010 4:21:30 AM PST by tutstar
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To: Sprite518

heard about it on Michael Savage too


36 posted on 11/11/2010 4:28:55 AM PST by tutstar
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To: Sprite518
Then we see a missile off the coast of Los Angeles

this too will be swept under the rug like Flight 800, the Loral/Chicom technology transfer, and the Murrah Bldg islam connection

37 posted on 11/11/2010 4:29:22 AM PST by Vaquero (BHO....'The Pretenda from Kenya')
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To: PeteB570

On cruise ships? You betcha. No cell towers in the middle of the ocean.

Plus, the theory is you’re on the cruise to relax; how much relaxing can one do if they are still tied to their phone.


38 posted on 11/11/2010 4:29:45 AM PST by Vor Lady
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To: Vor Lady

Most cruise ships I’ve been on the last 5 years have had “cellular at sea”. If you wanted to, you could use your phone as normal when at sea, and just pay international roaming charges. They always turn it off in port, so you’re stuck on other country’s service.
That was probably knocked out in this ship fire, not a priority to power from emergency engines like toilets and lights.


39 posted on 11/11/2010 4:37:42 AM PST by nin_kasi
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To: Georgia Girl 2

That and tha probably Chinese SLBM firing off Catalina yesterday.It is interesting they would advertise their new capabilities before they use them for real. They are maybe not ready for actual war but want something now from this America-in-decline president. Perhaps it will be or already is accompanied by demands to stay out of the East and Yellow Seas.


40 posted on 11/11/2010 4:39:01 AM PST by ThanhPhero (Khach hanh huong den La Vang)
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To: Doogle
.....people believed a jet with it's forward fuselage blown off could climb almost 2 thousand feet....

I'm still trying to figure out how kerosene vapor was made to burn explosively at 14,000'.....without being compressed......

41 posted on 11/11/2010 4:43:25 AM PST by Thermalseeker (Stop the insanity - Flush Congress!)
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To: Sprite518
two bits says the Chinese obtained the necessary technology to evade US submarine detection during the Clinton years in return for the large amounts of donations given.
42 posted on 11/11/2010 4:44:15 AM PST by elpadre (AfganistaMr Obama said the goal was to "disrupt, dismantle and defeat al-Qaeda" and its allies.)
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To: Sprite518

How is a three year old story breaking news?


43 posted on 11/11/2010 4:56:29 AM PST by saganite (What happens to taglines? Is there a termination date?)
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To: elpadre

BINGO!


44 posted on 11/11/2010 4:57:22 AM PST by HANG THE EXPENSE (Life is tough.It's tougher when you're stupid.)
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To: Sprite518

Ping


45 posted on 11/11/2010 4:58:47 AM PST by freedom lives
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To: Sprite518

But relax, everyone.

Because what “appeared” to be a missile launch 35 miles off the coast of California was really just the contrails of a jet...ascending vertically from the surface of the water toward the sky, flying at about twice the speed of a jet, and led by a bright white flame.

Remember, folks. You don’t test-run a missile launch 35 miles off the coast to test dropping a bomb on a city. You do so to practice being able to launch a missile directly over the US, which is how our enemies would launch an EMP attack upon us.

Well, thank goodness Obammie the Commie shut down the missile-defense shield. We are all Soooo much safer now.


46 posted on 11/11/2010 5:01:42 AM PST by Ghost of Philip Marlowe (Prepare for survival.)
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To: Thermalseeker

I also never bought into the idea that the air-vapour mixture in that fuel tank was within the explosive limits of Kerosene/Jet A.

If the tank was first ruptured, and then the liquid Jet A vapourised, THEN I can see an explosive mixture forming.

for technical details, read this: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Flammability_limit


47 posted on 11/11/2010 5:05:55 AM PST by Blueflag (Res ipsa loquitur)
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To: missnry

That was moving way too fast to be an aircraft contrail and spread apart too fast to be one,too


48 posted on 11/11/2010 5:06:56 AM PST by RaceBannon (RON PAUL: THE PARTY OF TRUTHERS, TRAITORS AND UFO CHASERS!!!)
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To: justa-hairyape

you know what they say “ we choose to believe what we want “


49 posted on 11/11/2010 5:09:51 AM PST by SF_Redux
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To: justa-hairyape

Coast Guard Cutters are currently flanking the Cruise Ship. The blaze supposedly began at 6 am.

Roughly about 10-12 hours before the possible missile launch.


Just to note:

The “report” says first was an EMP attack -—then 11 hours later was the American response, which is what was seen and on the video.

So the times would match, IF this report were true...


50 posted on 11/11/2010 5:11:41 AM PST by DontTreadOnMe2009 (So stop treading on me already!)
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