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Social Security judges facing more violent threats
http://apnews.myway.com/article/20101114/D9JG0GP81.html ^

Posted on 11/14/2010 3:38:48 PM PST by ChicagoConservative27

WASHINGTON (AP) - Judges who hear Social Security disability cases are facing a growing number of violent threats from claimants angry over being denied benefits or frustrated at lengthy delays in processing claims.

There were at least 80 threats to kill or harm administrative law judges or staff over the past year - an 18 percent increase over the previous reporting period, according to data collected by the agency.

The data was released to the Association of Administrative Law Judges and made available to The Associated Press.

One claimant in Albuquerque, N.M., called his congressman's office to say he was going to "take his guns and shoot employees" in the Social Security hearing office. In Eugene, Ore., a man who was denied benefits said he is "ready to join the Taliban and hurt some people." Another claimant denied benefits told a judge in Greenville, S.C., that he was a sniper in the military and "would go take care of the problem."

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KEYWORDS: security; social; sourcetitlenoturl
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1 posted on 11/14/2010 3:38:53 PM PST by ChicagoConservative27
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To: ChicagoConservative27

How many were actually carried out? Stupid journalists. Of course let’s not share that info, or even ask the question.


2 posted on 11/14/2010 3:42:25 PM PST by Secret Agent Man (I'd like to tell you, but then I'd have to kill you.)
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To: ChicagoConservative27

An example that you can never take benefits away once they are provided? Maybe just a reminder of things to come...


3 posted on 11/14/2010 3:44:35 PM PST by Deagle
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To: ChicagoConservative27

They all sound pretty fit to me.


4 posted on 11/14/2010 3:45:46 PM PST by Tijeras_Slim (Pablo lives jubtabulously!)
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To: ChicagoConservative27

I used to play tennis with one of these judges, back in the 80s. They were always showing videos of ‘disabled’ guys shoveling snow and playing golf in his courtroom.


5 posted on 11/14/2010 3:46:24 PM PST by proxy_user
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To: ChicagoConservative27
Judges who hear Social Security disability cases are facing a growing number of violent threats from claimants angry over being denied benefits or frustrated at lengthy delays in processing claims.

Since they're so good at serving the public we should let them run the health care industry, too!

/s, obviously

6 posted on 11/14/2010 3:46:41 PM PST by Riley (The Fourth Estate is the Fifth Column.)
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To: ChicagoConservative27

I wonder how these agitators would fare facing a legitimately armed squad of taxpayers.


7 posted on 11/14/2010 3:47:35 PM PST by Gene Eric (Your Hope has been redistributed. Here's your Change.)
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To: ChicagoConservative27
Judges who hear Social Security disability cases are facing a growing number of violent threats from claimants angry over being denied benefits or frustrated at lengthy delays in processing claims.

If they can be a violence threat or can afford to hire someone to do it for them, what the hell are they filing for SSI for in the first place?

8 posted on 11/14/2010 3:49:52 PM PST by EGPWS (Trust in God, question everyone else)
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To: ChicagoConservative27
And yet we're told that it's angry taxpayers who are on the edge of violence.

Is it me, or is something being displaced here?

9 posted on 11/14/2010 3:49:59 PM PST by danielmryan
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To: ChicagoConservative27
If we don't have resources to protect girls from threatening rejected suitors, then we don't have resources to protect judges.
10 posted on 11/14/2010 3:55:49 PM PST by MrEdd (Heck? Geewhiz Cripes, thats the place where people who don't believe in Gosh think they aint going.8)
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To: ChicagoConservative27
There were at least 80 threats to kill or harm administrative law judges or staff over the past year

Only 80? I'm surprised. I absolutely do not understand the domains of disability, workers comp, etc, and clearly the bureaucrats ("judges") don't either. Stories I have heard and validated would have made me want to pick up a gun too.

It's the price you pay for abandoning established principles of right and wrong and contaminating them with the legalities of entitlement.

11 posted on 11/14/2010 3:56:39 PM PST by hinckley buzzard
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To: ChicagoConservative27

Judges have a union?


12 posted on 11/14/2010 4:03:09 PM PST by certrtwngnut
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To: proxy_user

My neighbors 32 yr old son (who still lives with her) lost his job as a city bus driver due to a drunk driving charge. He then went on to apply for SSI benefits based on the argument that his “drinking problem” is a disability that cost him his job.

I assume he wasn’t successful, because he had to actually find another job instead of staying home collecting tax payer money. Don’t know what his new job is, but I don’t imagine it is one where he needs a license. He now rides a bus instead of driving one.


13 posted on 11/14/2010 4:03:09 PM PST by kevslisababy
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To: Deagle
An example that you can never take benefits away once they are provided? Maybe just a reminder of things to come...

Except that in these cases, the benefits have typically not been provided to begin with.

Generally speaking, this is people who did not meet SSA's definition of disability - unable to engage in substantial gainful activity (currently reckoned as a job grossing $1k a month), with a disabling condition expected to last 12 months or result in the claimant's death.

They file an initial claim, which is a two part process. First the claims representative determines whether they've worked enough (for Social Security Disability) or come in under the income and resource limits (for SSI). If they don't meet the technical requirements, they can appeal that, but they generally don't. If they meet the technical requirements, the case is then referred to a state Disability Determination Service. The doctors and other medically trained people at DDS approve or deny them on medical grounds.

If denied, the claimant can file a reconsideration in which a different medical examiner at the DDS, who was not involved in the first case, takes a look at the case again and makes a decision.

If they're denied at the reconsideration, they can file an appeal to an Administrative Law Judge, or ALJ. That process can take up to 2-3 years (lots of cases, few judges).

When they are denied by the ALJ, they then have the option of filing a new initial claim and starting the process over again. They can also file civil suit against SSA at any time in the process.

14 posted on 11/14/2010 4:03:12 PM PST by Terabitten ("Don't retreat. RELOAD!!" -Sarah Palin)
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To: proxy_user

***They were always showing videos of ‘disabled’ guys shoveling snow and playing golf in his courtroom.***

My worthless brother-in-law (If you know him he probably owes you money) comes to mind.

He hasn’t worked since 1980 when he found he could get on the gov’t dole. He can do his own roofing, climb trees to cut limbs, crawl under houses, rebuild engines with no problem. Then to the door comes any stranger and suddenly out comes the cane and he hobbles to the door like he is on his last legs.
It burns me up every time I see him put on his act. Now, he actually is slightly crippled but still capable of some work but turns down all simple jobs offered to him.


15 posted on 11/14/2010 4:09:10 PM PST by Ruy Dias de Bivar (I visited GEN TOMMY FRANKS Military Museum in HOBART, OKLAHOMA! Well worth it!)
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To: EGPWS

“If they can be a violence threat or can afford to hire someone to do it for them, what the hell are they filing for SSI for in the first place?”

they are filing for mental disability


16 posted on 11/14/2010 4:09:49 PM PST by ari-freedom (Islam is at war against America, while America is at the mall.)
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To: Terabitten

Great detailed reply - lawyerly in fact... The point is that when the Government passes laws that grant privileges to anyone, it is seldom if ever reprieved. That means that when Government (Congress or even States) pass laws granting monies to anyone, it is very unlikely that it will ever be changed (or at least canceled)... It might be changed at the margins, but eliminated, don’t bet on it.


17 posted on 11/14/2010 4:11:28 PM PST by Deagle
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To: hinckley buzzard
It's the price you pay for abandoning established principles of right and wrong and contaminating them with the legalities of entitlement.

The Utopias promised by the rats these past 80 years are unraveling and becoming the hells the rats were warned of.

18 posted on 11/14/2010 4:14:38 PM PST by Jacquerie (Planned Parenthood - Abortion for genocide and profit.)
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To: Deagle
Great detailed reply - lawyerly in fact.

Thanks... not so much lawyerly as "I work for SSA" :)

19 posted on 11/14/2010 4:14:59 PM PST by Terabitten ("Don't retreat. RELOAD!!" -Sarah Palin)
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To: MrEdd

Other than a few wealthy people and well placed politicians who is really protected in our nanny state?


20 posted on 11/14/2010 4:16:51 PM PST by Average Al (Obama: The Pulitzer Prize Schmuck.)
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