Skip to comments.Olbermann to Strike Back at Koppel for Saying He Represents 'The Death of Real News'
Posted on 11/14/2010 7:49:23 PM PST by Mozilla
Ted Koppel on Sunday published an op-ed at the Washington Post wherein he claimed that opinionated television personalities like MSNBC's Keith Olbermann represent the death of real news.
The "Countdown" host apparently isn't taking this lying down for he tweeted the following Sunday evening:
FYI Special Comment tomorrow night: Koppel, False Equivalence, and his part in the real "death of news" [sic]
Here's what's caught Olbermann's ire this time:
To witness Keith Olbermann - the most opinionated among MSNBC's left-leaning, Fox-baiting, money-generating hosts - suspended even briefly last week for making financial contributions to Democratic political candidates seemed like a whimsical, arcane holdover from a long-gone era of television journalism, when the networks considered the collection and dissemination of substantive and unbiased news to be a public trust.
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I challenge anyone to prove that real news existed.
(In the context stated)
It’s all opinion. Whether it come under a “opinion” or op/ed banner, or be it coming with a banner of “news”. That’s opinion too.
Hell this is just what Obermann wanted to post his ratings
The only problem is that it sets up the rest of the MSM who “only” break hard left to point to Olbermann and say “See we’re centrist, we have a puf piece about the unquestioned born and breed American known as Obama. But first we have a inside report about Sarah Palin’s vestigial tail.”
He actually generates money? Who knew?
I thought the news divisions all lost money...not sure about MSNBC per se...
Komrade Olbermann is an insulting, profane little propagandist. IMHO, what he desperately needs is an industrial strength mouth washing, a good thorough old school drubbing and a job requiring heavy manual labor.
I wasn’t paying much attention at the time (because I was born in ‘70) but I’d venture a guess that the end of real news/journalism began with old Walt’s editorializing about Vietnam on the evening news.
Ever hear of Walter Duranty?
NYT apologist/liar for Stalin in the 30s.
He may have three people who listen to him. Not a concern in my opinion.
They did when they used to have news bureaus all over the globe that covered and reported "news". It doesn't take much budget to sit on your ass in a studio with a bunch of talking heads discussing the latest DNC fax as if it "reporting". That's how they can get away with paying their "talent" so lavishly.
Does Drudge still say he makes more money than ABC, CBS, and NBC News combined?
A couple of lefty scumbags at each other’s throat? ..Break out the popcorn.
hehehe....soon to be gushing out.
What Keith really needs is a 300 pound cellmate named Bubba.
Or Will Randolph Hearst?
You'd win. One of the way-stations down that detour was WR Hearst/Spanish-American War/Yellow Journalism. That is just the first one to come to mind.
I claim that Olbermann was raised in the Westboro Baptist Church and is one of their higher achieving psychopaths. He walks with those people, maybe not on the exact cause even though they are both against the Iraq War, but they clearly take the same miscreant path to exercising a daily spit speckled loathing and hatred of ideological opponents. It is scary to watch, but after enough times it just becomes annoying.
Olbermann is like watching an epileptic seizure victim - horrifying at first but eventually you see it as an uncontrollable sickness, of a body in a psychotic trance, a human brain shredded into a Tourettes-like puree, a cytoplastic goulash that can still unimaginably mutter curse words, who is simply beyond the realm of human rationality and scientific help, and finally you are are brought to sympathy for his incurable ailment.
Bring him to Lourdes and simply hold him under until we are cured!
Well, no more than a hour or two......just saying ;^)
Ted's a little slow on the uptake. Whorealdo was killing hard news decades before the MS joined the NBC.
However contemptibly pathetic a clown Olbermann may be, he's a latecomer to the circus.
My biggest problem with Fox News is it's willful legitimation of Jerry Rivers. The man has been a risible and corrosive phony from the first moment he had a camera on him. I completely fail to understand how any news org wishing to be considered serious and legitimate could provide him a venue. He is a stain; a blot; an encrusted pool of vomit; a festering pile of offal.
So what you’re saying is ... you don’t respect Jerry Rivers? :^p
Excellent examples all.
Exactly so. The so-called “long-gone era of television journalism” being pined for never existed, and never will exist. It never existed in print, either.
On that note, I’ve seen a short history write up here on the rise of the fiction of “objective journalism” with the rise of the wire services. Does anyone know what I’m talking about, and have a link for it?
I have the same feelings about Geraldo “The Fake”. FNC won’t respond to any emails when I tell them why I’m changing the channel. I get the same silence from the Weather Channel folks when I voice my displeasure with Al Roker.
That goodness for NatGeoWild....!!!
The way I put the question is this: what if “And that’s the way it is” never was?
Conservatism_is_compassion is one of the resident FReeper experts on the Associated Press and the fiction of “objective journalism.”
I just now pinged him to this thread.
Here’s one of CiC’s threads.
Journalism and Objectivity
Vanity | 11/16/2009 | Vanity
I’ve heard of William Randolph Hearst, read a little bit about the guy. Like any other “news man”, the guy was a progressive. Actually, he was a “reformer” which is what progressives called themselves before they called themselves progressives.
Like all progressives, the news itself is simply just another means to an end.
——————The way I put the question is this: what if And thats the way it is never was?-——————
I think that clearly “the way it is” isn’t how it was.
We got the world through the eyes of a progressive. Whatever they didn’t want you to know, you didn’t know.
I’m thankful every day that “journalists” don’t have that ability anymore.
If you’re at all interested in Hearst, I highly recommend this book. I read it about a year ago.
THE CHIEF: The Life of William Randolph Hearst
Houghton Mifflin, New York, 2000
Chapter 6 Hearst in New York: Staging a Spectacle
The measure of a commercially successful newspaper is not simply how well it report the big events, but what it does when there are no dying statesmen, bloodthirsty desperadoes, or heinous crimes to write about. Hearst succeeded in New York not only because he knew how to report the big stories, but because he was a master at constructing news from nothing. News is not a phenomenon that exists in the real world, waiting to be discovered. Wars have been fought, tornadoes have raged, and hundreds of thousands of innocents have been slaughtered without ever becoming news. An event becomes news only when journalists and editors decide to report it. More often than not, what determines whether an occurrence is newsworthy or not is the ease with which it can be plotted and narrated so that readers will want to read about it. If there are no discernable heroes, or villains, no mysteries to uncover, no climaxes, denouements, triumphs or failures, if no one wins or loses in the end, then there is no story to tell.
Hearsts favorite news stories were front-page tragedies of conspiracy in which the public was the innocent victim, the police and city officials the corrupt villains, and the Journal reporter the brave heroes.
I’m just about finished with this one. Good history of three individuals who helped build radio.
Empire of the Air: The Men Who Made Radio
The more I read and study, the more I’m convinced it is all about a distribution system and who all has access to it.
One-to-one: Word of mouth
One-to-many: Broadcast (ink-on-paper, electronic broadcast)
Many-to-many: The world wide web
Thanks to both of you. Both for the answer to this specific question, and for what you’re doing in general in raising awareness of media lies and bias.
Koppel proves he’s still an ignorant, uninformed leftist when he claims Olbermann has 1 million viewers and compares Chris Wallace to Olbermann. Personally, I’m looking forward to a cat fight between two members of the leftist propaganda corps, especially after NBC totally caved in to Olbie.
I watched Olbie’s “special comment” tonight. It was hilarious to see this preening egomaniac compare himself to Edward R Murrow. I suspect his act is wearing thin even with the leftists at NBC. Even they must realize he’s making them all look the idiots they are.