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Olbermann to Strike Back at Koppel for Saying He Represents 'The Death of Real News'
Newsbusters ^ | 11-14-10 | Noel Sheppard

Posted on 11/14/2010 7:49:23 PM PST by Mozilla

Ted Koppel on Sunday published an op-ed at the Washington Post wherein he claimed that opinionated television personalities like MSNBC's Keith Olbermann represent the death of real news.

The "Countdown" host apparently isn't taking this lying down for he tweeted the following Sunday evening:

FYI Special Comment tomorrow night: Koppel, False Equivalence, and his part in the real "death of news" [sic]

Here's what's caught Olbermann's ire this time:

To witness Keith Olbermann - the most opinionated among MSNBC's left-leaning, Fox-baiting, money-generating hosts - suspended even briefly last week for making financial contributions to Democratic political candidates seemed like a whimsical, arcane holdover from a long-gone era of television journalism, when the networks considered the collection and dissemination of substantive and unbiased news to be a public trust.

(Excerpt) Read more at newsbusters.org ...


TOPICS: Extended News; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: captainqueef; deathwatch; keitholbermann; keithoverbite; mslsd; msm; msnbc; olbermann; overbite; pmsnbc; tedkoppel
It doesn't bother me if Keef just gets loonier and more hateful and vitriolic..........it might be kind of entertaining to see the guy blow up on live TV!!!
1 posted on 11/14/2010 7:49:29 PM PST by Mozilla
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To: Mozilla

I challenge anyone to prove that real news existed.

(In the context stated)

It’s all opinion. Whether it come under a “opinion” or op/ed banner, or be it coming with a banner of “news”. That’s opinion too.


2 posted on 11/14/2010 7:51:55 PM PST by Halfmanhalfamazing ( Net Neutrality is unpatriotic.)
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To: Mozilla

Hell this is just what Obermann wanted to post his ratings


3 posted on 11/14/2010 7:54:25 PM PST by uncbob
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To: Mozilla

The only problem is that it sets up the rest of the MSM who “only” break hard left to point to Olbermann and say “See we’re centrist, we have a puf piece about the unquestioned born and breed American known as Obama. But first we have a inside report about Sarah Palin’s vestigial tail.”


4 posted on 11/14/2010 7:55:40 PM PST by SengirV
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To: uncbob

He actually generates money? Who knew?

I thought the news divisions all lost money...not sure about MSNBC per se...


5 posted on 11/14/2010 8:05:44 PM PST by scrabblehack
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To: Mozilla

Komrade Olbermann is an insulting, profane little propagandist. IMHO, what he desperately needs is an industrial strength mouth washing, a good thorough old school drubbing and a job requiring heavy manual labor.


6 posted on 11/14/2010 8:14:33 PM PST by Free in Texas (Let them eat bacon!)
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To: Halfmanhalfamazing

I wasn’t paying much attention at the time (because I was born in ‘70) but I’d venture a guess that the end of real news/journalism began with old Walt’s editorializing about Vietnam on the evening news.


7 posted on 11/14/2010 8:14:43 PM PST by BuckeyeTexan (There are those that break and bend. I'm the other kind.)
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To: BuckeyeTexan

Ever hear of Walter Duranty?

NYT apologist/liar for Stalin in the 30s.


8 posted on 11/14/2010 8:24:11 PM PST by DarrellZero
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To: Free in Texas
"Komrade Olbermann is an insulting, profane little propagandist.

He may have three people who listen to him. Not a concern in my opinion.

9 posted on 11/14/2010 8:32:59 PM PST by blackbart.223 (I live in Northern Nevada. Reid doesn't represent me.)
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To: scrabblehack
I thought the news divisions all lost money

They did when they used to have news bureaus all over the globe that covered and reported "news". It doesn't take much budget to sit on your ass in a studio with a bunch of talking heads discussing the latest DNC fax as if it "reporting". That's how they can get away with paying their "talent" so lavishly.

10 posted on 11/14/2010 8:36:29 PM PST by OrangeHoof (Washington, we Texans want a divorce!)
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To: Mozilla
Sorry Ted, but real news died a long time ago. Well, it didn't die so much as succumb to liberal cancer. There is nothing in the MSM anymore that even remotely qualifies as news: unbiased reporting of the whole story. 90% or more of what is passed off as “news” is merely liberal/socialist propaganda packaged up to manipulate the public. It has had a pretty good run (unfortunately), but is starting to show it's age and irrelevance thanks to beacons like Fox news, conservative talk radio, and the Internet. The truth is leaking out.
11 posted on 11/14/2010 8:39:41 PM PST by ThunderSleeps (Stop obama now! Stop the hussein - insane agenda!)
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To: OrangeHoof

Does Drudge still say he makes more money than ABC, CBS, and NBC News combined?


12 posted on 11/14/2010 8:44:55 PM PST by scrabblehack
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To: Mozilla

A couple of lefty scumbags at each other’s throat? ..Break out the popcorn.


13 posted on 11/14/2010 8:48:09 PM PST by Lancey Howard
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To: BuckeyeTexan
150 Years of Global Warming and Cooling at the New York Times
14 posted on 11/14/2010 8:49:50 PM PST by Halfmanhalfamazing ( Net Neutrality is unpatriotic.)
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To: ThunderSleeps
Sorry Ted, but real news died a long time ago...The truth is leaking out.

hehehe....soon to be gushing out.


15 posted on 11/14/2010 9:12:51 PM PST by skinkinthegrass (Imam Zer0: DeathCARE, Is my only "health" plan....to hell w/ free enterprise. :^)
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To: Lancey Howard
here ya go! Lancey

16 posted on 11/14/2010 9:20:16 PM PST by skinkinthegrass (Imam Zer0: DeathCARE, Is my only "health" plan....to hell w/ free enterprise. :^)
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To: Free in Texas

What Keith really needs is a 300 pound cellmate named Bubba.


17 posted on 11/14/2010 9:26:18 PM PST by Bullish (Been to all 57 States.... Or is it 58?)
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To: DarrellZero; BuckeyeTexan
Ever hear of Walter Duranty?

Or Will Randolph Hearst?

18 posted on 11/14/2010 9:29:24 PM PST by Bullish (Been to all 57 States.... Or is it 58?)
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To: Halfmanhalfamazing
I challenge anyone to prove that real news existed.

You'd win. One of the way-stations down that detour was WR Hearst/Spanish-American War/Yellow Journalism. That is just the first one to come to mind.

19 posted on 11/14/2010 9:54:03 PM PST by RobinOfKingston
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To: Mozilla
Olbermann doesn't make real news. That Koppel, he's pulled real news out of his ass every day for 35 years.


20 posted on 11/14/2010 10:38:20 PM PST by dr_who
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To: Mozilla

I claim that Olbermann was raised in the Westboro Baptist Church and is one of their higher achieving psychopaths. He walks with those people, maybe not on the exact cause even though they are both against the Iraq War, but they clearly take the same miscreant path to exercising a daily spit speckled loathing and hatred of ideological opponents. It is scary to watch, but after enough times it just becomes annoying.

Olbermann is like watching an epileptic seizure victim - horrifying at first but eventually you see it as an uncontrollable sickness, of a body in a psychotic trance, a human brain shredded into a Tourettes-like puree, a cytoplastic goulash that can still unimaginably mutter curse words, who is simply beyond the realm of human rationality and scientific help, and finally you are are brought to sympathy for his incurable ailment.

Bring him to Lourdes and simply hold him under until we are cured!


21 posted on 11/14/2010 10:40:20 PM PST by Titus-Maximus (Light from Light)
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To: Titus-Maximus
Bring him to Lourdes and simply hold him under until we are cured!

Well, no more than a hour or two......just saying ;^)

22 posted on 11/14/2010 10:46:48 PM PST by The Cajun
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To: Mozilla
television personalities like MSNBC's Keith Olbermann represent the death of real news

Ted's a little slow on the uptake. Whorealdo was killing hard news decades before the MS joined the NBC.

However contemptibly pathetic a clown Olbermann may be, he's a latecomer to the circus.

My biggest problem with Fox News is it's willful legitimation of Jerry Rivers. The man has been a risible and corrosive phony from the first moment he had a camera on him. I completely fail to understand how any news org wishing to be considered serious and legitimate could provide him a venue. He is a stain; a blot; an encrusted pool of vomit; a festering pile of offal.

23 posted on 11/15/2010 12:30:39 AM PST by Stultis (Democrats. Still devoted to the three S's: Slavery, Segregation and Socialism.)
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To: Stultis

So what you’re saying is ... you don’t respect Jerry Rivers? :^p


24 posted on 11/15/2010 2:15:58 AM PST by BuckeyeTexan (There are those that break and bend. I'm the other kind.)
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To: Bullish; DarrellZero; Halfmanhalfamazing

Excellent examples all.


25 posted on 11/15/2010 2:22:48 AM PST by BuckeyeTexan (There are those that break and bend. I'm the other kind.)
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To: Halfmanhalfamazing

Exactly so. The so-called “long-gone era of television journalism” being pined for never existed, and never will exist. It never existed in print, either.

On that note, I’ve seen a short history write up here on the rise of the fiction of “objective journalism” with the rise of the wire services. Does anyone know what I’m talking about, and have a link for it?


26 posted on 11/15/2010 2:37:04 AM PST by FreedomPoster (No Representation without Taxation!)
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To: Stultis

I have the same feelings about Geraldo “The Fake”. FNC won’t respond to any emails when I tell them why I’m changing the channel. I get the same silence from the Weather Channel folks when I voice my displeasure with Al Roker.

That goodness for NatGeoWild....!!!


27 posted on 11/15/2010 2:58:25 AM PST by Capt_Hank (btu's...kcal's...to kJ's, but my activation energy is still high.)
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To: FreedomPoster; Halfmanhalfamazing; conservatism_IS_compassion

The way I put the question is this: what if “And that’s the way it is” never was?

Conservatism_is_compassion is one of the resident FReeper experts on the Associated Press and the fiction of “objective journalism.”

I just now pinged him to this thread.


28 posted on 11/15/2010 3:07:55 AM PST by abb ("What ISN'T in the news is often more important than what IS." Ed Biersmith, 1942 -)
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To: FreedomPoster

Here’s one of CiC’s threads.

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-bloggers/2387446/posts
Journalism and Objectivity
Vanity | 11/16/2009 | Vanity


29 posted on 11/15/2010 3:27:00 AM PST by abb ("What ISN'T in the news is often more important than what IS." Ed Biersmith, 1942 -)
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To: Bullish; RobinOfKingston

I’ve heard of William Randolph Hearst, read a little bit about the guy. Like any other “news man”, the guy was a progressive. Actually, he was a “reformer” which is what progressives called themselves before they called themselves progressives.

Like all progressives, the news itself is simply just another means to an end.


30 posted on 11/15/2010 3:47:42 AM PST by Halfmanhalfamazing ( Net Neutrality is unpatriotic.)
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To: abb

——————The way I put the question is this: what if “And that’s the way it is” never was?-——————

I think that clearly “the way it is” isn’t how it was.

We got the world through the eyes of a progressive. Whatever they didn’t want you to know, you didn’t know.

I’m thankful every day that “journalists” don’t have that ability anymore.


31 posted on 11/15/2010 3:49:12 AM PST by Halfmanhalfamazing ( Net Neutrality is unpatriotic.)
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To: Halfmanhalfamazing

If you’re at all interested in Hearst, I highly recommend this book. I read it about a year ago.

THE CHIEF: The Life of William Randolph Hearst
David Nasaw
Houghton Mifflin, New York, 2000

Chapter 6 – Hearst in New York: “Staging a Spectacle”

Pp. 102-103

The measure of a commercially successful newspaper is not simply how well it report the big events, but what it does when there are no dying statesmen, bloodthirsty desperadoes, or heinous crimes to write about. Hearst succeeded in New York not only because he knew how to report the big stories, but because he was a master at constructing news from nothing. News is not a phenomenon that exists in the real world, waiting to be discovered. Wars have been fought, tornadoes have raged, and hundreds of thousands of innocents have been slaughtered without ever becoming “news.” An event becomes news only when journalists and editors decide to report it. More often than not, what determines whether an occurrence is newsworthy or not is the ease with which it can be plotted and narrated so that readers will want to read about it. If there are no discernable heroes, or villains, no mysteries to uncover, no climaxes, denouements, triumphs or failures, if no one wins or loses in the end, then there is no story to tell.

Hearst’s favorite news stories were front-page tragedies of conspiracy in which the public was the innocent victim, the police and city officials the corrupt villains, and the Journal reporter the brave heroes.


32 posted on 11/15/2010 3:55:25 AM PST by abb ("What ISN'T in the news is often more important than what IS." Ed Biersmith, 1942 -)
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To: FreedomPoster; abb
The Right to Know

Why the Associated Press is Pernicious to the Public Interest

Journalism and Objectivity

News Over the Wires:
The Telegraph and the Flow of Public Information in America, 1844-1897
by Menahem Blondheim

33 posted on 11/15/2010 4:38:23 AM PST by conservatism_IS_compassion (DRAFT PALIN)
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To: conservatism_IS_compassion

I’m just about finished with this one. Good history of three individuals who helped build radio.

Empire of the Air: The Men Who Made Radio

http://www.amazon.com/Empire-Air-Men-Made-Radio/dp/0060182156

The more I read and study, the more I’m convinced it is all about a distribution system and who all has access to it.

One-to-one: Word of mouth
One-to-many: Broadcast (ink-on-paper, electronic broadcast)
Many-to-many: The world wide web


34 posted on 11/15/2010 5:00:06 AM PST by abb ("What ISN'T in the news is often more important than what IS." Ed Biersmith, 1942 -)
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To: conservatism_IS_compassion; abb

Thanks to both of you. Both for the answer to this specific question, and for what you’re doing in general in raising awareness of media lies and bias.


35 posted on 11/15/2010 6:57:38 AM PST by FreedomPoster (No Representation without Taxation!)
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To: Mozilla

Koppel proves he’s still an ignorant, uninformed leftist when he claims Olbermann has 1 million viewers and compares Chris Wallace to Olbermann. Personally, I’m looking forward to a cat fight between two members of the leftist propaganda corps, especially after NBC totally caved in to Olbie.


36 posted on 11/15/2010 12:26:19 PM PST by ozzymandus
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To: Mozilla

I watched Olbie’s “special comment” tonight. It was hilarious to see this preening egomaniac compare himself to Edward R Murrow. I suspect his act is wearing thin even with the leftists at NBC. Even they must realize he’s making them all look the idiots they are.


37 posted on 11/15/2010 8:49:36 PM PST by ozzymandus
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