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I know many will claim that the candidates the Republican party had were not all that great. I would agree with that, well except for Carly Fiorina. But to not vote is to vote for a Democrat.

Well yesterday when I went to the Doctor, I found out that the my Doctor's Secretary did not vote. darn it, she goes to my Church even. Well I gave her a piece of my mind.

Then this a afternoon I was talking to my neighbor and she told me that she and her husband forgot to vote. Forgot?

Well I gave her a piece of my mind also, because just a Month ago I was standing out front talking with both her and her husband about the election. They told me they are Republican and that they agreed with me about everything and that they couldn't wait to vote Boxer out.

Her husband even told me that he remembered when Jerry Brown was governor and that he could not stand the idea of him being elected again.

Then I read this article, and now I am real angry. What is it about Republicans in Ca? Why would any republican not vote?

1 posted on 11/15/2010 6:56:03 PM PST by Korah
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To: Korah

There aren’t enough Republicans in California to win elections without unaffiliated voters. Most of the unaffiliated in the state lean to the left in one way or another.


2 posted on 11/15/2010 6:58:21 PM PST by Clintonfatigued (Illegal aliens commit crimes that Americans won't commit.)
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To: Korah
Think about the states and races that surprisingly resisted the TEA party/GOP wave. There may be a pattern of “missing” votes.

Instead of the usual dem trick of producing votes out of thin air (and cemeteries) maybe they figured out a way to disappear a bunch of republican votes.

I saw a story earlier today about Connecticut that made me think of this.

There shouldn't have been any area where Republicans were not enthusiastic to get out and vote. Even if you didn't like the GOP candidate in Cali the chance to bounce Boxer should have brought republicans out in droves.

The major shift in votes in seniors should have helped as well.

I am hoping some sharp Freepers can dig in to it.

5 posted on 11/15/2010 7:06:42 PM PST by djwright (2012 The White House Gets Another Coat Of Shellac)
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To: Korah

The GOP missed a good opportunity in California. 86,000 of the commie ‘RATS from over there were in Arizona casting “provisional” ballots for the “medicinal” marijuana crowd.


6 posted on 11/15/2010 7:08:06 PM PST by FlingWingFlyer ("In God We Trust", everyone else must show proof of citizenship.)
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To: Korah

When the choice is to vote for a liberal with an R behind their name or a liberal with a D behind their name whats the point.


7 posted on 11/15/2010 7:09:52 PM PST by Breto (never accept the premise)
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To: Korah

What is it about Republicans in Ca? Why would any republican not vote?

You said it in the first sentence. If I were a Californian I wouldn't have bothered to vote for Carly Fiorina or Meg Whitman either. Party loyalty is hardly the bottom line for evaluation of the principles, character, and competence of a candidate.

Thus the Tea Party.

9 posted on 11/15/2010 7:13:12 PM PST by jnsun (The Left: the need to manipulate others because of nothing productive to offer.)
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To: Korah

There are two million more registered Dems than Pubs in CA. That’s a hard margin to overcome.


11 posted on 11/15/2010 7:13:51 PM PST by Hugin ("People will usually tell you their bad intentions if you take the time to listen"--- Open Range)
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To: Korah

This is what happens when the GOP Leadership is Democrat-Lite and the candidate at the top of the ticket is only slighly GOP

Why vote for the faux Democrat when you can have the real thing?

THe failed logic driving the Pete Wilson wing of the CA GOP will continue to drive the GOP into the ground here until some conservative(s) wrest control of the party back where it belongs.

A Pox on them all!


12 posted on 11/15/2010 7:15:08 PM PST by SoConPubbie
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To: Korah

Republicans who did not vote, just ended up helping the Democrats win. All those who did not vote should not complain.


15 posted on 11/15/2010 7:22:56 PM PST by seekthetruth (Winners don't compromise, Losers Do!)
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To: Korah
What is it about Republicans in Ca? Why would any republican not vote?

1. The party establishment is run by the libs. It doesn't promote or support conservative candidates. This drives down conservative turnout in the primaries.

2. Because of (1), both of the party's candidates at the top of the ticket were the more liberal of the two top contenders. This reduces the difference between the party candidates and leads to voter indifference.

3. Because of gerrymandering congressional and state legislative races are uniformly non-competitive. If you are in a democratic district, the democrat wins. If you are in a republican district, the republican wins - usually with 70% of the vote. This doesn't exactly encourage high turnout or grass roots participation and both parties are equally guilty of working to protect "their" safe seats.

4. As a result of all of the above, a lot of conservatives have just given up on the republican party. Between Whitman and Brown for instance you had two liberals running against one another. I used to be a solid Republican voter. This time I ended up splitting my vote about equally between the republicans, the libertarians and the AIP. If the Republicans want my vote they'll have to run candidates who don't turn my conservative stomach.

19 posted on 11/15/2010 7:38:03 PM PST by InABunkerUnderSF (Anyone who has read Roman history knows a barbarian invasion when they see one.)
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I tried to post a response on the ChicoEr, but the postings were denied with the following message:

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Since they say my “Text entered was wrong”, I’ll post it here instead:

The problem may be at least in part something else entirely different than voter apathy. We moved out of California in part because of the blatant vote fraud which happened to us in a previous election.

After years of voting without incident, the polling place was changed for our voting precinct. When I arrived to vote and presented my same voter registration card and California driver’s license that had beeen valid for a number of previous years and elections, the poll officials very rudely denied me the right to vote and threatened me with police arrest by the Sheriff’s Deputies if I did not immediately leave the polling place. They did all of this without giving me any chance to speak or even react with anything but momentary confusion about what was taking place.

As I walked out of the back porch where the polling booths were setup, I stopped as I walked by the garage door where the computer printout was posted for the public to view with all of the names and addresses of voters registered to vote at this precinct polling place. In all of the previous elections my name and address appeared on this report. For this election, my name and address as a registered voter was missing. In their place, however, were the names of illegal aliens registered as voters at my home’s address.

How do I know they were illegal aliens? Some months prior to the election, the California Department of Motor Vehicles mailed letters to my address, and they were addressed to the same Hispanic names which appeared in place of my name on the registered voters list months later. The DMV used window envelopes for these letters, and you could not help but see that the contents were California driver’s licenses issuedd to Hispanics using my private home’s address as their legal address. Since they certainly did not live at my address or in my home, I tried to report the violations of the law to the law enforcement officers.

As I attempted to report the illegal activity, my telephone calls were transferred from one office to the next, often with the government worker expressing hostility at my attempting to report my complaints. The California Department of Motor Vehicles denied having any jurisdiction. The Los Angeles Sheriff’s Department denied having any responsibility and referred me to the district attorney, but they did suggest they might want to investigate me for tampering with the U.S. Mail. The district attorney denied having any responsibility and said to contact the California Attorney General. The California Attorney General’s representative was scathingly hostile, refused to help me report the illegal activity, and once again suggested they might be interested in pursuing some kind of legal action against me for opening someone else’s mail. They slammed the phone down before giving me any opportunity to respond with the explanation that the letters remained unopened and had not been tampered with by anyone.

After being unlawfully denied the right to vote while fictitious voters were allowed to cast ballots in the election, I once again made the rounds of attempting to report the vote fraud and make my complaints. Once again every office from the voting authorities to the California Attorney General’s office refused to take a report of the crimes and attempted to intimidate me with suggestions I could be investigated and arrested for interfering with the criminal activity I was trying to report.

My problems are not at all unique in California. When talking with other people, they described their own experiences with vote fraud. The Republican Party in Orange County has complained about vote fraud in their county for decades and filed a number of lawsuits. Even when they managed to get a favorable verdict, the Democrats on the Appellate courts overturned the case/s on controvrsial technicalities they claimed existed.

In other states around the nation we have seen convictions and reports of massive vote fraud being commiitted by the Democratic Party’s members and/or supporters too numerous to detail here. Among the vote frauds being reported have been the destruction of absentee ballots and vote by mail ballots that favored candidates other than the Democratic Party candidate. Especially repugnant has been the extensive efforts of the Democratic Party to invalidate absentee ballots and deny the right to vote for the men and women serving in the armed services overseas in combat and here in the United States. You really have to wonder just how many California voters were denied the right to vote or had their votes unlawfully invalidated and destroyed to commit vote fraud on behaldf of the Democratic Party’s candidates? Were many of their votes not counted because of vote fraud? It happened to me.


24 posted on 11/15/2010 8:15:43 PM PST by WhiskeyX
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To: Korah

The Gop voter was too busy employing workers and not growing marijuana to sell to other liberals.

The base of the voters hat have kep the Gop going have been crapped on spiton, and then told they are the problem.. and then you slam those same folks here..

a couple comments down thread make you sound like others who were here chastising anyone here that didn’t support the moderates that ended up as the candidates and got their clocks cleaned everytime..

nothing new.. most of us have clothes pins and voted for the ones we were sold and are not the ones you need to be challenging here.. aRnie didn’t need my vote and he didn’t get it, ever.. Meg and Carly don;t have TEA party bone in their bodies, so what do the party faithful do? pick them over conservatives, in the primaries, like I said nothing new.


27 posted on 11/15/2010 8:48:58 PM PST by NormsRevenge (Semper Fi ... Godspeed .. Monthly Donor Onboard .. Obama: Epic Fail or Bust!!!)
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To: Korah

The California GOP needs to learn the lesson or keep suffer the same outcome over and over again. Repubicans gave Rino Arnie a chance and he was just as bad as any other flaming socialist in the State.

Mealy mouth, liberal Rinos are not inspiring voters. Either stand up to the Left or sit down and don’t waste the time and money. The GOP effictiveness of urging people to vote for the lessor of two evils is gone. Evil is Evil when it comes to killing the middle class and freedom.


29 posted on 11/15/2010 9:06:19 PM PST by SaraJohnson
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To: Korah
Losers blame election losses on low turnout.

After this month's election, I have concluded that California is hopeless.

My theory is that California is corrupted by its great weather: the takers outnumber and outvote the producers, but the productive part of society, at this point, puts up with the insanity due to California's wonderful climate.

When the state collapses, at least it will be fun to say, "I told you so."
38 posted on 11/16/2010 1:28:30 AM PST by Right_Wing_Madman
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To: Korah

I wouldn’t be surprised to learn that a lot of those Registered Republican voters who didn’t vote had already moved out of the State.


43 posted on 11/16/2010 7:27:15 AM PST by Old Retired Army Guy (tHE)
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To: Korah

All of the most Conservative people I know voted 3rd party - not Republican. I think this is going to be normal from now on. If the GOP wants half a chance to win California, they are going to have to run conservative enough candidates to try to energize their base. I don’t know if that will do any good as there are 4 registered Dems for every 3 registered GOP. But is it painfully obvious now that running RINO Socialist lites doesn’t work, because the GOP base won’t vote, leaving the Dem voters to elect the Dem candidate.

All summer I heard GOP insiders say how they have to appeal to mainstream moderate Californians and not run candidates too far to the right. I have no faith the incompetent CA GOP will see the proof that is false and try running right wing candidates next time.

IMHO, California is done. It is over. It is doomed. Only a backlash from economic bankruptcy hs a chance to wake the middle class into rejecting socialism, and they may not awaken even then.

California is doomed. I’ll leave as soon as I retire.


45 posted on 11/16/2010 10:01:03 AM PST by Freedom_Is_Not_Free (I am having the best Depression, ever!)
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But what happened to California?

The Republicans could have stopped the last massive tax increases, but three or four Republicans joined the Democrats to raise taxes.

Republicans in California and nationwide have to learn that if elected Republicans fail to stop the Democrats when it's in their power, they are largely useless to us. Why would we bother voting for them?

47 posted on 11/16/2010 1:34:03 PM PST by RJL
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