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Barack's Brokeback barracks--Leaked 'Don't Ask, Don't Tell' details pervert Pentagon study
The Washington Times ^ | November 18, 2010 | Editorial

Posted on 11/18/2010 5:01:45 PM PST by jazusamo

President Obama and his friends in the media want the public to think Americans serving in uniform are just fine and dandy with homosexual conduct in the military. This view is being spread through a series of selective leaks from the Pentagon's Comprehensive Review Working Group, which is putting the finishing touches on a report regarding the future of the "Don't Ask, Don't Tell" policy.

Mr. Obama has promised the fringe special-interest activists who helped him win the 2008 election that he will deliver what for them is the symbolic victory of opening barracks to lesbians, gays, bisexuals and the transgendered (LGBT). Last week, the Supreme Court rejected an attempt to use the courts to bypass the legislative process to implement this radical change. After the big GOP win in the elections, ramming the LGBT priority through the lame-duck Congress appears to be the sole remaining option - and an unlikely one at that.

To improve the odds, anonymous sources have been claiming to the administration's newsroom allies that 70 percent of troops wouldn't object to overturning the long-standing ban on homosexual conduct, citing draft versions of the Pentagon survey. The spin makes it sound as if the troops are fully behind Mr. Obama's campaign pledge.

Those who know better say this reporting has created a false impression. "I looked very closely at the stories," working group co-chairman Jeh C. Johnson wrote in an Oct. 30 e-mail obtained by The Washington Times. "It seemed obvious to me that whoever spoke to the press was not very familiar with the actual results...

(Excerpt) Read more at washingtontimes.com ...


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To: jazusamo

I’m beginning to think we have more than a few poofters in the upper ranks of the pentagon. (Either that, or they are just plain spineless bastards.)


21 posted on 11/18/2010 6:44:04 PM PST by smokingfrog (Because you don't live near a bakery doesn't mean you have to go without cheesecake.)
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To: jazusamo; Quix; Alamo-Girl; Amityschild; AngieGal; AnimalLover; Ann de IL; aposiopetic; aragorn; ...

Being a father of seven, with five of them now in adulthood, let me say something that all parents in their fiftys know.

When your children are crawling around and just pulling themselves up to stand at the the coffee table, you don’t think a lot about their late teen and adult years. But just turn around once, twice, and they are considering careers of their own.

It seems that just over night from their first steps, they are at the age for selective service registration.

So it is when they are toddlers, parents need to decide whether the family has any definite convictions (not merely “preferences”) concerning whether the children serve in the armed forces with sodomites. There must be a serious accounting of your convictions; from your “religious” faith, or from whatever source, but they must be firmly settled convictions, and not merely what you “prefer” to happpen.

Convictions which are traditional within your family’s faith and/or heritage must be deliberately taught to your children as a course of study, a family curriculum.

Obviously, there are families without any deeply settled convictions; usually in these cases, no deeply settled “religious” faith or family heritage.

You might observe that we emphasize here faith over “religion,” as we have a Christian faith and heritage in our family that we endeavor not to degrade with religion; “religion” as so loosely defined in the from the end of WWII to the present.

The word “religion,” as used in America, could be understood in a more pure Christian sense in the 17th, 18th, and 19th centuries. In those generations, if someone had said that some person was “religious,” it would have most often been understood refering to a biblicist Christian faith. The word, “religion” appears only a couple of times in the Bible, and is always a reference to the fruit of a genuine life of faith; it never refers to belonging to a church or order, or the practicing of rites, ceremonies or sacraments.

We have a family heritage deeply and firmly rooted in a biblicist Christian faith, and this has produced convictions regarding many areas of life and morality that we have deliberately taught to our children.

As a result, none of our children condone nor countenance sodomy or the sodomite agenda. It is not merely based on what they would “prefer” to happen or not happen, but they are willing to have less in this life, and even to suffer to hold fast their Christian convictions.

Therefore, when our sons registered for selective service, they all filed documents as well that state their convictions concerning various issues, including, but not limited to (1) sodomy and sodomites serving in the armed forces,(2) women in combat, (3) women and men co-habitating in the same quarters, (4) associating in servicemen’s clubs where there is the use of alcoholic beverages as a basis for promotion or career evaluation, (5) others.

Our sons filed documents with the Selective Service Administration and the Department of Defense, and sent copies to their elected representatives at federal and state level. These documents state, among other things . . .

That while they are willing to serve in the United States Armed Forces and bear arms in the defence of the country, they will . . .

(1) NOT serve with known sodomites (conscientious objection),

(2) NOT serve with women in combat, as it would violate their deep rooted biblical understanding of how men ought to treat women in all purity and holiness, and firmly believe in a biblicist role for women in the home (conscientious objection),

(3) NOT serve where they must be co-quartered with the opposite sex (conscientious objection).

(4) NOT serve where they are evaluated on the basis of their social concourse when alcoholic beverages are in use, such as in servicemen’s clubs (conscientious objection).

Number (4) above has to do with an incident where I, while serving in the Air Force, was denied graduation from an NCO leadership school because I would not attend a social function where major elements were alcoholic drink and dancing. In the end, my commanders adjudicated that it would not negatively affect my promotion, because my position was deeply rooted in biblicist faith, and they could not deny that it was a genuine conviction. Furthermore, the policies and activities of that particular NCO leadership school were altered as to the graduation requirements. I held my ground, eventually gained my commanders’ respect, and it changed things.

Many who post on Free Republic will disagree to some of our specific objections of conscience (I expect to be flamed by some who defend women serving in combat, and some men wouldn’t mind living in close quarters with women who are not their wives) , and that is because they do not have the same grounding in Biblicist faith. But here, we are making a broader point, whether or not anyone agrees with some specific points of ours.

Our point is that if CHRISTIANS in the armed forces and their families (and those registering for selective service) stand for their faith, and that including areas that touch on morality (sodomy, women in men’s dormitories, etc.), then the sodomite agenda could not advance as we are seeing it advance today. The sodomite agenda, and other forms of moral decay are advancing because Christians are keeping their mouths shut, keeping their pens in their pockets, and their computers only on forum sites. CHRISTIAN people are not using their word processors or printers. They are not delivering any volume of conscientious objection to the Selective Service regime, the Department of Defense, the secretaries of the various armed services, nor to the offices of their elected representatives.

Of course, it is useless to go through the trouble if CHRISTIAN parents have not instructed their Selective Service or volunteer age children in their family’s CHRISTIAN faith, conscience, tradition, morality or heritage. It is a useless exercise if professing CHRISTIAN parents have taken the nation that they will simply raise their children to decide these things according to their own “preferences.”

Mere “preferences” in moral issues will never hold the line against the onslaught of wicked men aided by their father, the devil. CHRISTIAN CONVICTIONS, based upon Biblicist faith and heritage, undergirded by the workings of the Holy Spirit in the life will produce a testimony that can serve to inhibit the forces of evil in our nation, including the sodomites and anti-family forces.

My children love America, but they love Christ more than they love America. My children are willing to risk their lives in defense of our nation (they are all trained in the use of firearms, byt the way), . . .

. . . but when the nation is defended against foreign foes, for whom have we defended it, and for what principles and for what heritage? For the sodomites? For the Log Cabin Republicans? For the people like the members of the National Organization for Women and the National Education Association? For the globalist elites? For the people who will squander our national treasure for the United Nations?

For what principles are our brave servicemen, and yes, serviceWOMEN fighting and many dying for. Did members of our young generation die in Iraq and Afghanistan to preserve the likes of the Obama agenda? REALLY?

DO WE HAVE A CONSCIENCE ANYMORE?!! Do we do anything anymore in the defence of liberty of conscience?

If the military draft is re-instituted, and I suspect it will be sooner or later, my own children will likely be declared unfit to serve in the United States Armed Forces of which I myself am a proud veteran.

But their being thought to be unfit is because they maintain a heritage and morality that was held by our fathers and former generations who also held to the same heritage and morality—a CHRISTIAN heritage and morality.

Where is our army of CHRISTIANS in this hour who will rise up and not be silent about what the Bible says is right and pure and precious?

If the Selective Service regime, the Defense Department, the Pentagon, the Joint Chiefs, and the Commander-in-Chief all were to have a serious understanding from our own conscientious objections that our CHRISTIAN children will not serve with known sodomites (let’s just hold the issues right there for now), the sodomite agenda nor the anti-family agenda of the Obama administration could in NO WAY advance.

DEVELOP CONVICTIONS AND TEACH THEM TO YOUR CHILDREN FROM EARLY CHILDHOOD!


22 posted on 11/18/2010 6:59:16 PM PST by John Leland 1789 (Grateful)
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To: John Leland 1789

Excellent post. Thanks much.


23 posted on 11/18/2010 7:21:14 PM PST by Joya
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To: John Leland 1789
DEVELOP CONVICTIONS AND TEACH THEM TO YOUR CHILDREN FROM EARLY CHILDHOOD!

And you, as their parent....lead by example.

That was an excellent post. I thank you deeply.

24 posted on 11/18/2010 7:26:00 PM PST by Brad’s Gramma (Here's a thought!! Donate to the website you are on RIGHT NOW!! .... *waves hi to DS*)
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To: John Leland 1789

Thank you so very much for sharing your insights, dear John Leland 1789!


25 posted on 11/18/2010 7:52:05 PM PST by Alamo-Girl
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To: roses of sharon

After Fort Hood, that was it for me. I would not advocate for any of the young men in my family to put their lives on the line for such an unconstutional, stupid ideology as liberalism/socialism/progressivism/Marxism/globalism.

Political correctness is a mental illness that hurts a lot of people in our society (I think it is at the root of the high rate of mental illness such as depression and it is at the root of poor institutional and economic condition) but it is deadly for the troops. No one in my family is going to die for that crazy crap ideology that, at it’s root, hates the Republic and hates American-Americans.


26 posted on 11/18/2010 8:06:36 PM PST by SaraJohnson
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To: John Leland 1789
We have two sons and a daughter-in-law who served in the military. 2 in the Air Force and 1 in the Navy. They joined after 9/11 and served this country will honor and a great sense of duty. 2 are out now and pursuing careers made possible by the military. I is left and wants to retire from it. Maybe...it's just this kind of vile programs that give my son reason to reconsider his commitment. How can people in D.C. and in the Pentagon be so tone deaf as to not understand what this is doing to the morale of troops? Pray for some common sense to prevail in those in authority. ANd the bravery it takes to stand up against a room full of jello-brains who are committed to creating social science situations. It is disgraceful that this country must deal with this.
27 posted on 11/18/2010 8:58:24 PM PST by smvoice (Defending the Indefensible: The Pride of a Pawn.)
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To: jazusamo
The commander-in-chief wants the average GI Joe-mo to have the same options he has.


28 posted on 11/18/2010 9:03:22 PM PST by dead (I've got my eye out for Mullah Omar.)
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To: John Leland 1789
"Thank You" for your service and dedication to raising your children in the Lord...

the only problem i see in yer post is the assumption that the majority in DC seeks troops like yer children...

those troopers wouldnt be as easy to manipulate for a 'feel good' moment...

29 posted on 11/18/2010 9:27:48 PM PST by Gilbo_3 (Gov is not reason; not eloquent; its force.Like fire,a dangerous servant & master. George Washington)
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To: smvoice

There is nothing at all that should diminish your pride in your children’s service in the Armed Forces. May God bless them and you richly.


30 posted on 11/18/2010 9:41:31 PM PST by John Leland 1789 (Grateful)
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To: savagesusie

Wednesday April 28, 2010


Military Chaplains Urge Obama to Maintain Ban on Open Homosexuals in Military

By Kathleen Gilbert

WASHINGTON, D.C., April 28, 2010 (LifeSiteNews.com) - Over 40 retired military chaplains are urging President Obama and Defense Secretary Robert Gates to consider the impairment of religious liberty that would likely result from imposing a “non-discrimination” policy regarding open homosexuals in the military.

The Family Research Council (FRC) and the Alliance Defense Fund Wednesday released a letter signed by the chaplains expressing concern over what they claim would be a threat to Christian free speech if the military’s “don’t ask, don’t tell” (DADT) policy on open homosexuals in the military were to be lifted. Defense Secretary Gates confirmed in February that, acceeding to the wishes of the Obama administration, the Pentagon would begin taking steps towards repealing the Clinton-era DADT.

“As chaplains whose cumulative service is measured in centuries, we are deeply concerned that these changes would threaten the religious liberty of chaplains and service members,” states the letter. The former chaplains note that, because they are retired, they have more freedom to speak, “unlike our active-duty brethren in the chaplaincy, who may risk accusations of insubordination or discrimination if they raise these concerns.”

The group says they fear that “chaplains might be pressured by adverse discipline and collapsed careers into watering down their teachings and avoiding - if not abandoning - key elements of their sending denomination’s faith and practice. Such a result would be the very antithesis of religious freedom and inimical to the guarantees made by our First Amendment to the U.S. Constitution.”

The chaplains also say that homosexuals would soon demand that the Strong Bonds program, which supports military marriages and is administered by the chaplaincy, apply also to homosexual couples, if homosexuality were normalized in the armed forces. Chaplains administering the program, they note, “will either have to deny their religious beliefs to comply with the ‘non-discrimination’ policy or face the potentially career-ending consequences of a discrimination complaint when they deny their request.”

The letter continues: “Even if a chaplain never receives a formal complaint for exercising his religious beliefs, his career and ministry will be threatened simply by the existence of the ‘non-discrimination’ law. By raising homosexual behavior to the same protected status as innate, innocuous characteristics like race and gender, the armed forces will cast the sincerely held religious beliefs of many chaplains and Service members as rank bigotry comparable to racism.”

The chaplains point to several civilian cases in which Christians have been penalized in their professional capacity for upholding their beliefs in homosexuality as immoral. “Nothing will insulate armed forces chaplains from these issues already rampant in civilian life,” they state. “If anything, the uniquely close relationship between armed forces chaplains and the government will only intensify this divisive phenomenon, creating sharp and widespread conflict. ...

“Opposition to normalizing sinful behavior is deeply rooted in our theology, and that opposition will come to a sharp head if the armed forces compel affirmation of homosexual conduct.”

At a press conference Wednesday afternoon, FRC president Tony Perkins stated: “While we may not see - at least not immediately - proscriptions restricting what chaplains can or cannot say, rest assured, the appropriate gospel will be a politically correct gospel.”

“And while failure to preach this p.c. gospel may not lead to being drummed out of the military, there’s no question that it will be an obstacle to the promotion and the military careers of chaplains,” he added.

If chaplains are restricted in their ability to represent their faith, said Perkins, “you can look for orthodox Christian chaplains to exit the military, leaving an insurmountable void in fostering an environment that ensures that the men and women who wear the uniform are in their best mental, emotional, and spiritual condition necessary to defend the nation and the ideals that we represent.

“With two military actions underway, multiple deployments and one tour of duty, why would we ask these people to carry the burden of this administration’s political agenda?”

URL: http://www.lifesitenews.com/ldn/2010/apr/10042811.html



31 posted on 11/18/2010 9:44:46 PM PST by victim soul
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To: John Leland 1789

Would that we had Christian Leaders to gather their troops and publicly just SAY NO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


32 posted on 11/18/2010 9:53:46 PM PST by victim soul
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To: smokingfrog

I know there’s a lesbian mafia in the upper ranks of the female officer corps in the Army. Don’t know about the guys, but I wouldn’t be surprised if one exists.

There is a certain amount of resignation about homosexuals being allowed to serve openly, but there is NO way that 70% approve of it.


33 posted on 11/18/2010 9:59:04 PM PST by Future Snake Eater ("Get out of the boat and walk on the water with us!”--Sen. Joe Biden)
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To: Gilbo_3
"the only problem i see in yer post is the assumption that the majority in DC seeks troops like yer children..."

No such assumption. My post made the point that my children, if ever called up in a military draft, would be considered incompatible for life in a Obamized military environment.

The letters my sons sent along with their selective service registration were to establish up front their conscientious objections to service under the mandates of current trends in the military.

If CHRISTIAN people would loudly and forcefully voice their repugnance of the immoral social experimentation in Armed Forces, the military planners would have to ask themselves, "Will a large segment of CHRISTIAN America be unavailable to the regular services should we try to advance our social agenda within the armed services?"

If there were to be sufficient GENUINE CHRISTIAN conscientious objection on these grounds, the military planners could be forced to think twice.

It would require millions of CHRISTIAN families standing up and saying, "A sodomite infested barracks is no place for our children" LOUDLY in the ears of military planners.

My objective is not to weaken the fighting capabilities of our Armed Forces, but rather to enhance them by raising a huge conscientious objection to the wickedness that our children will be subjected to if the sodomite agenda is advanced.

34 posted on 11/18/2010 10:02:02 PM PST by John Leland 1789 (Grateful)
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To: binreadin

If anyone who has same sex even once since 1977 cannot give blood with The Red Cross.

What happens on the battlefield when a wounded buddy needs blood?

Joining the military is a not a right but a privilege.

STD’s and HIV/AIDS are preventable if you just avoid temptations and say No.

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Wednesday April 28, 2010


Military Chaplains Urge Obama to Maintain Ban on Open Homosexuals in Military

By Kathleen Gilbert

WASHINGTON, D.C., April 28, 2010 (LifeSiteNews.com) - Over 40 retired military chaplains are urging President Obama and Defense Secretary Robert Gates to consider the impairment of religious liberty that would likely result from imposing a “non-discrimination” policy regarding open homosexuals in the military.

The Family Research Council (FRC) and the Alliance Defense Fund Wednesday released a letter signed by the chaplains expressing concern over what they claim would be a threat to Christian free speech if the military’s “don’t ask, don’t tell” (DADT) policy on open homosexuals in the military were to be lifted. Defense Secretary Gates confirmed in February that, acceeding to the wishes of the Obama administration, the Pentagon would begin taking steps towards repealing the Clinton-era DADT.

“As chaplains whose cumulative service is measured in centuries, we are deeply concerned that these changes would threaten the religious liberty of chaplains and service members,” states the letter. The former chaplains note that, because they are retired, they have more freedom to speak, “unlike our active-duty brethren in the chaplaincy, who may risk accusations of insubordination or discrimination if they raise these concerns.”

The group says they fear that “chaplains might be pressured by adverse discipline and collapsed careers into watering down their teachings and avoiding - if not abandoning - key elements of their sending denomination’s faith and practice. Such a result would be the very antithesis of religious freedom and inimical to the guarantees made by our First Amendment to the U.S. Constitution.”

The chaplains also say that homosexuals would soon demand that the Strong Bonds program, which supports military marriages and is administered by the chaplaincy, apply also to homosexual couples, if homosexuality were normalized in the armed forces. Chaplains administering the program, they note, “will either have to deny their religious beliefs to comply with the ‘non-discrimination’ policy or face the potentially career-ending consequences of a discrimination complaint when they deny their request.”

The letter continues: “Even if a chaplain never receives a formal complaint for exercising his religious beliefs, his career and ministry will be threatened simply by the existence of the ‘non-discrimination’ law. By raising homosexual behavior to the same protected status as innate, innocuous characteristics like race and gender, the armed forces will cast the sincerely held religious beliefs of many chaplains and Service members as rank bigotry comparable to racism.”

The chaplains point to several civilian cases in which Christians have been penalized in their professional capacity for upholding their beliefs in homosexuality as immoral. “Nothing will insulate armed forces chaplains from these issues already rampant in civilian life,” they state. “If anything, the uniquely close relationship between armed forces chaplains and the government will only intensify this divisive phenomenon, creating sharp and widespread conflict. ...

“Opposition to normalizing sinful behavior is deeply rooted in our theology, and that opposition will come to a sharp head if the armed forces compel affirmation of homosexual conduct.”

At a press conference Wednesday afternoon, FRC president Tony Perkins stated: “While we may not see - at least not immediately - proscriptions restricting what chaplains can or cannot say, rest assured, the appropriate gospel will be a politically correct gospel.”

“And while failure to preach this p.c. gospel may not lead to being drummed out of the military, there’s no question that it will be an obstacle to the promotion and the military careers of chaplains,” he added.

If chaplains are restricted in their ability to represent their faith, said Perkins, “you can look for orthodox Christian chaplains to exit the military, leaving an insurmountable void in fostering an environment that ensures that the men and women who wear the uniform are in their best mental, emotional, and spiritual condition necessary to defend the nation and the ideals that we represent.

“With two military actions underway, multiple deployments and one tour of duty, why would we ask these people to carry the burden of this administration’s political agenda?”

URL: http://www.lifesitenews.com/ldn/2010/apr/10042811.html


35 posted on 11/18/2010 10:05:07 PM PST by victim soul
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To: victim soul

Yep....Marxists have been using homosexuals as useful idiots to destroy the natural family and Christianity. By promoting a behavior that goes against Natural Law Theory and is unconstitutional, it will fundamentally transform this nation and make the Bible hate speech. We will no longer have freedom of religion or freedom of thought. PC Marxist ideology tells us we have to think the nihilistic, disgusting things homosexuals do with their bodies is good. We will have to teach little 4 year old boys that a perversion of their sexual identity is good—that good is evil and evil is good.

Marxists have been teaching cognitive dissonance inside our schools to confuse and make our citizens unable to think logically—like Bill Ayers curricula who loved to play with little boys while changing diapers. We have mentally ill people teaching and conditioning our children through the schools and media, into Lucifer’s world. Disgusting.

Ideology is crucial to societies. We are dumping our Christian Western Civ. model....the best in the history of the world. We are dumping it for a Marxist atheistic/pagan hellhole. Let’s retake our country.

We will deny children their fundamental right to a mother and father which is the ideal way to bring up an emotional healthy child. But the Marxists want our children sexualized and drugged out so they can easily manage them.


36 posted on 11/18/2010 10:14:55 PM PST by savagesusie
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To: John Leland 1789
sorry John, i prolly wasnt clear...

I think they *want* to eliminate CHRISTian troopers who live by a determined set of values...the sodomites will bend more easily to the will of their 'masters'...

my cynisism rests in a belief that the 'world' we live in has once again become infested with the same old power whores that arent interested in anything beyond their next promotion...

the fact that we are even having this conversation tells me that the planners and brass have already sold out & crossed the line, and no longer care about the country, or the Lord...only what shiny trinkets they can gain...

Blessings to you and yours...

37 posted on 11/18/2010 10:15:38 PM PST by Gilbo_3 (Gov is not reason; not eloquent; its force.Like fire,a dangerous servant & master. George Washington)
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To: victim soul
"Would that we had Christian Leaders to gather their troops and publicly just SAY NO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

ABSOLUTELY AGREED!!

We are not going to see those leaders coming from the likes of the Rick Warren or Joel Osteen type crowds.

The leaders of this movement must be in millions of Christian families who, at the time their sons register for Selective Service also file with the military planners clear statements of conscience.

When mailing selective service registration cards, letters must be attached voicing on grounds of CHRISTIAN CONSCIENCE objection to our children serving with known sodomites.

Make copies of everything, including the registration cards, put original signatures on them, and mail them to the Department of Defense, the secretaries of the several Armed Services, to the Joint Chiefs, Congressional oversight committeess, to any other Generals and Admirals for which you can get addresses, the Commander-in-Chief, as well as your own elected representatives at both federal and state level. Include your governor, since he controls the state's reserves.

38 posted on 11/18/2010 10:21:56 PM PST by John Leland 1789 (Grateful)
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To: Gilbo_3
"I think they *want* to eliminate CHRISTian troopers who live by a determined set of values...the sodomites will bend more easily to the will of their 'masters'..."

Oh, I got you. I agree! The system is already operated by a societal reprobate mind.

They want a reprobate sodomite, anti-family military that they can trust eventually to turn their guns on the remainder of the American populace, confiscate our weapons, and complete paving the road to serfdom for us.

They want women hardened and desensitized in combat, too; ones they can later train to be the "child protective services" agents to take children away from Christian families who home school and discipline their children.

I do understand you, and I agree.

If GENUINE CHRISTIAN families don't stand now, there will be no recovery at all from all of this.

39 posted on 11/18/2010 10:31:42 PM PST by John Leland 1789 (Grateful)
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To: John Leland 1789
DEVELOP CONVICTIONS AND TEACH THEM TO YOUR CHILDREN FROM EARLY CHILDHOOD!

Amen! Congratulations on bringing seven Christ-loving, America-loving and freedom-loving people into the world. We need more of them! You're still working on that, right? ;o)

40 posted on 11/18/2010 10:41:39 PM PST by boatbums (God is ready to assume full responsibility for the life wholly yielded to him.)
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