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Web censorship bill sails through Senate committee
Daily Caller ^ | 11/19/2010 | Sam Gustin

Posted on 11/19/2010 5:41:04 AM PST by markomalley

On Thursday, the Senate Judiciary Committee unanimously approved a bill that would give the Attorney General the right to shut down websites with a court order if copyright infringement is deemed “central to the activity” of the site — regardless if the website has actually committed a crime. The Combating Online Infringement and Counterfeits Act (COICA) is among the most draconian laws ever considered to combat digital piracy, and contains what some have called the “nuclear option,” which would essentially allow the Attorney General to turn suspected websites “off.”

COICA is the latest effort by Hollywood, the recording industry and the big media companies to stem the tidal wave of internet file sharing that has upended those industries and, they claim, cost them tens of billions of dollars over the last decade.


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To: a fool in paradise; markomalley

You make good points. I hope others see them and start to realize how far this has gotten...I think many don’t understand how bad this is.

And isn’t it funny that many of those who cry “First Amendment!” so loudly are some of the ones who are supporting this subversion of the First Amendment (as well as other Constitutional protections).


41 posted on 11/19/2010 6:40:47 AM PST by Gondring (Paul Revere would have been flamed as a naysayer troll and told to go back to Boston.)
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To: Lazamataz

|I always did like your posts/replies, Laz.


42 posted on 11/19/2010 6:40:52 AM PST by knarf (I say things that are true ... I have no proof ... but they're true)
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To: Jane Long

What the hell is the matter with Coburn? Everyone tells me he is so conservative. Would this be the same Coburn that stated “Nancy Pelosi is a nice person” then berated his audience when they groaned at that statement?


43 posted on 11/19/2010 6:44:59 AM PST by Outlaw Woman (Lock & Load-Coming to a Neighborhood near you)
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To: markomalley

The America I grew up in died a long time ago. Just another step down.


44 posted on 11/19/2010 6:45:19 AM PST by sionnsar (IranAzadi|5yst3m 0wn3d-it's N0t Y0ur5:SONY|TV--it's NOT news you can trust)
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To: markomalley

November 18th, 2010

JUDICIARY COMMITTEE UNANIMOUSLY APPROVES BIPARTISAN HATCH BILL TO COMBAT COPYRIGHT INFRINGEMENT, PIRACY

http://hatch.senate.gov/public/index.cfm?FuseAction=PressReleases.Detail&PressRelease_id=60549ea5-1b78-be3e-e0fa-d3d186588fe6

” WASHINGTON – The Senate Judiciary Committee today approved legislation to combat copyright infringement and the sale of counterfeit goods online. The bipartisan Combating Online Infringement and Counterfeits Act was introduced in September by Senator Orrin Hatch (R-Utah) and Committee Chairman Patrick Leahy (D-Vt.). The Committee voted unanimously, 19-0, to send the legislation to the full Senate for consideration. “.....

“The Combating Online Infringement and Counterfeits Act is cosponsored by Judiciary Committee members Herb Kohl (D-Wis.), Chuck Grassley (R-Iowa), Dianne Feinstein (D-Calif.), Lindsey Graham (R-S.C.), Arlen Specter (D-Pa.), Tom Coburn (R-Okla.), Chuck Schumer (D-N.Y.), Dick Durbin (D-Ill.), Ben Cardin (D-Md.), Sheldon Whitehouse (D-R.I.), and Amy Klobuchar (D-Minn.), and Senators George Voinovich (R-Ohio), Evan Bayh (D-Ind.), Lamar Alexander (R-Tenn.), Kirsten Gillibrand (D-N.Y.) and Bob Menendez (D-N.J.). “


45 posted on 11/19/2010 6:47:19 AM PST by Texas Fossil (Government, even in its best state is but a necessary evil; in its worst state an intolerable one.)
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To: Lazamataz
It involves using the peer-to-peer model.

Better still, go back to using Fidonet

46 posted on 11/19/2010 6:48:31 AM PST by markomalley (Extra Ecclesiam nulla salus)
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To: markomalley

I think this is why it is coming out of committee. But I think this point is deceptive.

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As per Senate.gov website-

“The bill also provides safeguards allowing the domain name owner or site operator to petition the court to lift the order, and safeguards against abuse by allowing only the Justice Department to initiate an action, and by giving a federal court the final say about whether a particular site would be cut off from supportive services. “


47 posted on 11/19/2010 6:52:50 AM PST by Texas Fossil (Government, even in its best state is but a necessary evil; in its worst state an intolerable one.)
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To: G Larry

That’s absolutely a concern.

The sad thing is, you go to any tech site and the communities are typically 75% liberal. So it’s interesting to see the outrage against the Democrats pushing this crap.

Of course, their criticism is usually limited to “meet the new boss, same as the old boss,” as if Bush tried any of this.


48 posted on 11/19/2010 6:53:30 AM PST by Dan Nunn (Support the NRA!)
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To: markomalley

...if copyright infringement is deemed “central to the activity” of the site — regardless if the website has actually committed a crime.


Most copyright infringement is not a criminal matter, but is merely a civil violation of private property rights.


49 posted on 11/19/2010 6:53:38 AM PST by Atlas Sneezed ("If you touch my junk, I'm gonna have you arrested.")
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To: Beelzebubba
Most copyright infringement is not a criminal matter, but is merely a civil violation of private property rights.

Not for long - but don't worry, they have put "safeguards" in place for us - the Dept. of Justice and the ability to petition the court. LOL. The government protecting us from itself, with itself.

The Commies are indeed doubling down. Remember that the Food Control law passed through the Senate committee as well a couple of days ago....

50 posted on 11/19/2010 7:01:54 AM PST by Yooper4Life (They all lie.)
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To: markomalley; Jim Robinson; John Robinson
Fidonet is reasonable but it is not peer to peer and is thusly vulnerable to shutdowns.

We need to conceptualize a true peer to peer network.

There might serve, as a Free Republic 'coordinator', a fat-client application that resides on your computer. It is not a server. Each equipotent node would distribute messages and threads to other nodes. The Free Republic experience could never be the same between any two nodes, since messages and threads would come in to your computer in different orders.

JimRob would maintain a secured protocol which would allow him and other moderators to send 'kill message' and 'block user' messages, allowing moderation.

Otherwise things would be the same. It would be up to the application to render things in the same look and feel.

While it would be possible for the Feds to identify and raid each FR user, it would be a daunting task often involving significant physical resistance.

51 posted on 11/19/2010 7:03:04 AM PST by Lazamataz (Pelosi: Like a rapist, PROUD of their handiwork.)
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To: Texas Fossil; sickoflibs; stephenjohnbanker; DoughtyOne; Liz
“The bill also provides safeguards allowing the domain name owner or site operator to petition the court to lift the order, and safeguards against abuse by allowing only the Justice Department to initiate an action, and by giving a federal court the final say about whether a particular site would be cut off from supportive services. “

That's supposed to make me feel better?

Take a good look at who "initiates an action."


52 posted on 11/19/2010 7:04:10 AM PST by ding_dong_daddy_from_dumas (Lt. Col. Ralph Peters: Obama is the dog who caught the fire truck!)
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To: markomalley; Larousse2; Dubya-M-DeesWent2SyriaStupid!; GQuagmire; wintertime; Fred Nerks; ...
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Web censorship bill sails through Senate committee
Daily Caller ^ | 11/19/2010 | Sam Gustin

On Thursday, the Senate Judiciary Committee unanimously approved a bill that would give the Attorney General the right to shut down websites with a court order if copyright infringement is deemed “central to the activity” of the site — regardless if the website has actually committed a crime. The Combating Online Infringement and Counterfeits Act (COICA) is among the most draconian laws ever considered to combat digital piracy, and contains what some have called the “nuclear option,” which would essentially allow the Attorney General to turn suspected websites “off.”

Article and # 1.

53 posted on 11/19/2010 7:08:24 AM PST by LucyT
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To: markomalley

Could cut and pasting from another website into a post be “copyright infringement” ???

What if the piece is sourced...credit given ???

What if its a Bible verse ???

Theres no end to the possible “violations”


54 posted on 11/19/2010 7:09:29 AM PST by Tennessee Nana
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To: markomalley

Wow, if this isn’t another foul intimidation tactic, I don’t know what is.

We need a ginormous Tea party and plant our boot on this government.

Unacceptable.


55 posted on 11/19/2010 7:11:46 AM PST by dforest
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To: LucyT

Well, say good bye to Free Republic folks, if this becomes law.


56 posted on 11/19/2010 7:13:41 AM PST by Candor7 (Obama . fascist info..http://www.americanthinker.com/2009/05/barack_obama_ipthe_quintessentia_1.html)
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To: Tennessee Nana
What if its a Bible verse ???

The copyright on the Bible expired long ago.

57 posted on 11/19/2010 7:13:50 AM PST by null and void (We are now in day 668 of our national holiday from reality. - 0bama really isn't one of US.)
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To: Lazamataz

The reason why I suggest a Fidonet-like protocol vice peer-to-peer IP is that Fidonet can be used completely “off the grid” as it were. Connections are dependent upon analog phone calls from point a to point b in order to transfer message traffic. The phone numbers associated with point a or point b are also completely at random, since it is inherently an asynchronous network. Peer-to-peer networking, while it has the security of being M:N, still runs on the Internet, so there is the ability to perform traffic analysis. Unless, of course, a fairly large onion router network is set up.


58 posted on 11/19/2010 7:13:59 AM PST by markomalley (Extra Ecclesiam nulla salus)
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To: LucyT

Oh this will go well, giving the criminal Holder and the Obama media czar the unmonitored power to squelch opposition wherever the democrats want it done. ... Democrats are the enemy of America.


59 posted on 11/19/2010 7:15:17 AM PST by MHGinTN (Some, believing they can't be deceived, it's nigh impossible to convince them when they're deceived.)
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To: Candor7; jellybean; MHGinTN; Fred Nerks
Well, say good bye to Free Republic folks, if this becomes law.

My first thought, too.

60 posted on 11/19/2010 7:17:32 AM PST by LucyT
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