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Web censorship bill sails through Senate committee
Daily Caller ^ | 11/19/2010 | Sam Gustin

Posted on 11/19/2010 5:41:04 AM PST by markomalley

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Interesting. Wired Magazine wrote;

... according to Electronic Frontier Foundation, a digital rights group that opposes the bill. ... There need not even be illegal content on a site — links alone will qualify a site for digital death ... or any other website that advocates for peer-to-peer file sharing or rejects copyright law, according to the group.

If this monstrosity passes, simply posting a URL on FR could in theory, shut down FR. Of course this would ALSO apply to DU and other democRAT sites as well.


81 posted on 11/19/2010 7:44:31 AM PST by pyx (Rule#1.The LEFT lies.Rule#2.See Rule#1. IF THE LEFT CONTROLS THE LANGUAGE, IT CONTROLS THE ARGUMENT.)
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To: UCANSEE2
So, we must be careful, and take the time to learn which sources are going to cause a copyright problem.

Love ya, bro, but you aren't seeing the picture.

They would have Justice with the vans and the guys with guns all deployed outside Jims house, and the server location. Then an agent provocateur would be sent to post anything copyrighted on FR.

Then, when the info was visible, the Go Sign would be sent.

82 posted on 11/19/2010 7:45:57 AM PST by Lazamataz (Pelosi: Like a rapist, PROUD of their handiwork.)
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To: mojitojoe

Man, that is the longest, and I think the most boring, version of that story I have ever read. (boring mostly because I already knew the punchline)

Good job of writing, though.


83 posted on 11/19/2010 7:46:14 AM PST by UCANSEE2 (Lame and ill-informed post)
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To: markomalley
They would shut down the site and then force JimRob to hire a lawyer and go after them in order to get that order lifted.

Guilty until proven innocent...... This is a popular left wing tactic. Make legal fees so expensive, and entity cannot survive even though they're innocent. This is how the ACLU wins all it's cases. It has nothing to do with law or Constitutionality. (This is also how the left wrapped up the trial lawyer vote. The left brings them work.)

84 posted on 11/19/2010 7:50:05 AM PST by concerned about politics ("Get thee behind me, Liberal")
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To: markomalley

I went to see the bill. I got:


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Well, perhaps they will need to pass the bill, so that I can see what’s in it.


85 posted on 11/19/2010 7:50:12 AM PST by Lazamataz (Pelosi: Like a rapist, PROUD of their handiwork.)
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To: EternalVigilance

And just like McDonald’s exempt VampireCare, guess who will be exempt from this thing, and “pass around” all the “fair use” information they want.


86 posted on 11/19/2010 7:51:04 AM PST by Varsity Flight
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To: Texas Fossil
Certainly did not defend the bill.

Well, I'm glad to hear that, son!

Only commenting why it came out of committee.

I don't understand how that follows from your post. I was thinking it was because lobbyists got to both parties.

87 posted on 11/19/2010 7:51:35 AM PST by ding_dong_daddy_from_dumas (Lt. Col. Ralph Peters: Obama is the dog who caught the fire truck!)
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To: conejo99

Wasn’t Orrin Hatch the co-sponsor of the bill along with Leahy who put this forward?


88 posted on 11/19/2010 7:53:12 AM PST by benjibrowder (For Neda. May God bless those fighting for freedom.)
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To: markomalley

Our congress cant find the time and will to cut spending and save some $$ for the folks who are getting ripped off of their retirement thru Social Security, but they can find time, and bipartisan support, for special deals and protectionism and a mass takeover of the internet, for the Media industries.

Socialism ain’t just for the poor!


89 posted on 11/19/2010 7:54:58 AM PST by TeachableMoment
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To: Varsity Flight; Texas Fossil
And just like McDonald’s exempt VampireCare, guess who will be exempt from this thing, and “pass around” all the “fair use” information they want.

Something like that. Holder gave the Black Panthers a pass and then sued Arizona. Do you think he would rather shut down FR or a commie website?

90 posted on 11/19/2010 7:58:48 AM PST by ding_dong_daddy_from_dumas (Lt. Col. Ralph Peters: Obama is the dog who caught the fire truck!)
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To: Texas Fossil
But I think this point is deceptive.

(may I try to translate?)

"We will drown you in legal costs after we shut down your site and eliminate your income, by having Eric Holder issue a simple memo. If you can come up with the money to file an appeal, then Pontius Pilate Eric Holder can wash his hands and throw the Christians website to the lions Liberal/Obama Appointed Judges so they can feast on the scraps.

91 posted on 11/19/2010 7:59:31 AM PST by UCANSEE2 (Lame and ill-informed post)
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To: Beelzebubba
Most copyright infringement is not a criminal matter, but is merely a civil violation of private property rights.

Expect that to change.

92 posted on 11/19/2010 8:01:41 AM PST by UCANSEE2 (Lame and ill-informed post)
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To: Candor7
Well, say good bye to Free Republic folks, if this becomes law.

We just have to be proactive, and smarter than they are.

Posters just might have to deal with providing links only, and rephrasing/summary descriptions of what is at a link.

Of course, if they won't let us even copy the HEADLINE, that would be a problem.

93 posted on 11/19/2010 8:07:33 AM PST by UCANSEE2 (Lame and ill-informed post)
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To: markomalley; Lazamataz
The reason why I suggest a Fidonet-like protocol vice peer-to-peer IP is that Fidonet can be used completely “off the grid” as it were.

I'm going to get out my old TELEGRAPH KEY and start practicing my MORSE CODE.

94 posted on 11/19/2010 8:09:25 AM PST by UCANSEE2 (Lame and ill-informed post)
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To: knarf

“Meeting in the streets” should of happened, long before now! Come on, already!


95 posted on 11/19/2010 8:12:45 AM PST by johnthebaptistmoore (If leftist legislation that's already in place really can't be ended by non-leftists, then what?)
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To: markomalley

Not good. Eric Holder is a criminal AG, and he’s not the first.

Janet Reno.

And JFK had his brother in the AG office, willing to do whatever he wanted. The Dems have always controlled the justice system when they hold the White House. Republicans are too stupid.

So, the committee is “unanimous.” The cowardly Republicans are worried about losing what little money they get from Hollywood?


96 posted on 11/19/2010 8:13:45 AM PST by Cicero (Marcus Tullius.)
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To: IamConservative
The obvious work around is off shore hosting.

The problem is that all .com and .net names are under US jurisdiction. They could keep their hosting, but nobody would be able to get to them under "blahblah.com" because the link from blahblah.com to their IP addresses will be severed.

The solution is to get addresses under a two-letter country code domain of a country that hasn't bowed down to the copyright cartel.

97 posted on 11/19/2010 8:13:55 AM PST by antiRepublicrat
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To: antiRepublicrat
The solution is to get addresses under a two-letter country code domain of a country that hasn't bowed down to the copyright cartel.

All countries will.

Peer 2 Peer.

98 posted on 11/19/2010 8:14:45 AM PST by Lazamataz (Pelosi: Like a rapist, PROUD of their handiwork.)
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To: pyx
Of course this would ALSO apply to DU and other democRAT sites as well.

Like the law concerning the Black Panthers standing outside a poll booth?

99 posted on 11/19/2010 8:15:09 AM PST by UCANSEE2 (Lame and ill-informed post)
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To: Red Badger

The issue isn’t left/right or communist/socialist. It’s simply big businesses wanting to protect their profits at our expense, using their bought congresscritters to get what they want.

They will own our culture. They’ve been successfully working at it for decades.


100 posted on 11/19/2010 8:15:49 AM PST by antiRepublicrat
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