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Al Gore Mea Culpa: Support for Corn-Based Ethanol Was a Mistake [Ooooops....]
Politics Daily ^ | 11/23/10 | Tom Diemer

Posted on 11/24/2010 7:32:31 AM PST by Enchante

Now he tells us. Al Gore says his support for corn-based ethanol subsidies while serving as vice president was a mistake that had more to do with his desire to cultivate farm votes in the 2000 presidential election than with what was good for the environment.

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TOPICS: Business/Economy; Crime/Corruption; Front Page News; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: 2000election; 2000electionfraud; agw; algoreisnotmygod; algorelied; algorescandals; climatefraud; criminalconspiracy; cultureofcorruption; democratscandals; ethanol; farmvote; fraud; globalwarmingscare; gore; gorescandals; greenieweenies; heplayedonourfears; lyingliar; oldnews; revisionisthistory
Whooops..... Albore just admitted that his push for billions of dollars in federal subsidies for corn-based ethanol production was really about cultivating farmer votes for the 2000 elections....

Nice to have such candor from the the big fraud himself.

1 posted on 11/24/2010 7:32:36 AM PST by Enchante
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To: SunkenCiv

thought you’d be interested in this one


2 posted on 11/24/2010 7:33:29 AM PST by Enchante (What if the Olberdork returned to the air - and no one notices.... or cares?)
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To: Enchante

About 50-100billion in direct subsidies.
50 billion in market distortion( higher food, grain prices)
50??? billion is destroyed engines, carborators, repairs, lawn mowers, older fiberglassed in boat fuel tanks, aircraft engines, boat engines.

So, say 150-200 billion in direct and indirect costs.

Opps.

( Instead of getting out of Viet Nam after 4 months and going to divinity school, and then flunking out, Al should of taken a middle school science class.)

PS. Lots of limpwrist, green, liberal RINO’s and farm state hack Republicans and ADM moneytakers supported this racket.

pss. ON TO THE NEW RACKET!


3 posted on 11/24/2010 7:37:50 AM PST by Leisler (They always lie, and have for so much and for so long, that they no longer know what about.)
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To: Leisler

Where did you get your number for direct subsidies? One of the comments below the article gives 7.7 billion. I have no opinion, except that it’s surely more than $1 billion.


4 posted on 11/24/2010 7:39:38 AM PST by coloradan (The US has become a banana republic, except without the bananas - or the republic.)
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To: Enchante

Truly pathetic! Not only Mr. Gore, but all those ignoramuses that believed him. We all need to think more and feel less.


5 posted on 11/24/2010 7:39:43 AM PST by Machavelli (True God)
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To: Enchante

Yeah, it was not a “mistake”,
it was a calculated fraud on his behalf in order to gain political power.


6 posted on 11/24/2010 7:40:42 AM PST by MrB (The difference between a (de)humanist and a Satanist is that the latter knows who he's working for.)
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To: coloradan

I’d assume that Leisler is referring to cumulative subsidies over a decade whereas the article is referring one current-year subsidies??


7 posted on 11/24/2010 7:43:29 AM PST by Enchante (What if the Olberdork returned to the air - and no one notices.... or cares?)
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To: Enchante

He forgot to take his meds?


8 posted on 11/24/2010 7:43:29 AM PST by <1/1,000,000th%
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To: Leisler

You need to get your pencil back out. There were/are no direct subsidies for ethanol fuel. The govt. simply didn’t tax it. Thats like calling the Bush tax cuts government spending. I am not buying into the govt. owns the world unless they decide they don’t theory.

And if you think about the benefit all along from the abundant and ergo cheaper ancillary products from the corn milling operations, you have it completely opposite on higher food prices. Take ethanol out of the mix now and see what happens to food prices. It wont be pretty - corn syrup, lysine, citric acic, gluten, corn oil, etc.


9 posted on 11/24/2010 7:45:42 AM PST by major-pelham
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To: major-pelham

Is he trying to come clean so he can run against Obama in 2012?


10 posted on 11/24/2010 7:46:59 AM PST by YukonGreen
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To: major-pelham

Is he trying to come clean so he can run against Obama in 2012?


11 posted on 11/24/2010 7:47:15 AM PST by YukonGreen
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To: Enchante

What a creepy human being. Who else has had the temerity to shout, “He played on our fears,” in reference to GWB, and then foist such fear inducing crap on the world.


12 posted on 11/24/2010 7:48:14 AM PST by Leonard210 (Tagline? We don't need no stinkin' tagline.)
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To: Leisler

It wasn’t just algore, it was Bob Dole, and Grassley and a host of corn state morons. Exporting our fantastic crop surplus would not pay as much as a goldman sachs ethanol futures market, which should ring a lot of bells when you think about the carbon credits exchange which has folded but is coming back with this “im sorry” gambit from moron gore.

Al is upset because the hispano DREAM act constituency is seeing a huge rise in the price of corn tacos.

What irks so many is that ethanol is NOT a clean burning fuel at all, in addition to all of the above and the subsidies and the damage to engines and all the rest.


13 posted on 11/24/2010 7:49:35 AM PST by John S Mosby (Sic Semper Tyrannis)
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To: Enchante; Revolting cat!; The Comedian; Slings and Arrows; Lucky9teen
DERP!
14 posted on 11/24/2010 7:59:28 AM PST by a fool in paradise (The establishment clause isn't just against my OWN government establishing state religion in America)
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To: Enchante

15 posted on 11/24/2010 8:00:49 AM PST by a fool in paradise (The establishment clause isn't just against my OWN government establishing state religion in America)
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To: Enchante

That’s nice Al - now put all the tothpaste back in the tube.


16 posted on 11/24/2010 8:03:27 AM PST by T Minus Four (Duh. We were talking about in the old days or not-so-distant old days)
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To: Enchante

Many have seen the photo of al in vietnam looking down the barrel of an m16.
next time al do us all a favor and pull the trigger.


17 posted on 11/24/2010 8:03:50 AM PST by longfellow (Bill Maher, the 21st hijacker.)
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To: major-pelham

Riiight, no direct subsidies, sure, but plenty in between and special tax code write ups.

There is an ethanol commodities market, no? And corn futures. Explain how this decision, which is demonstrably causing havoc in the small engine field as well as in automobiles that are paid for, is a good one? My equipment replacement costs have doubled due to corrosive effects of ethanol.

Was this not another creation of Goldman Sachs, like carbon credits, like derivatives exchange like a hundred other areas of so called “investment”.

And now, the ethanol lobby wants MORE ethanol required to be added to gas. So they can make more money for a specific block of growers and futures traders. We do export ethanol, you know. Imagine that.

It takes petrochemicals to feed the corn to grow to make the ethanol. We have to import the crude to make the fertilizer, and all the “no till” in the world can’t make up for that. And then we export the ethanol, but not enough, so now we need to have more required in our own gasoline, to help the “flex fuel” cartel. Is it any surprise that Soros is so heavy in Monsanto and genetic mod seed industry?

It is not energy independence that was sought by Dole, Grassley and others- it was serious cash and their cartel of political hacks, along with mr. enviro liar gore.

I understand quite well the corn syrup, lysine,etc. derivative products. Ethanol is not a clean burning fuel on top of all this. The whole thing needs to be rolled up. If we’re gonna make ethanol, at least let it be Jack Daniels and stop pouring it in our gas tanks.


18 posted on 11/24/2010 8:04:44 AM PST by John S Mosby (Sic Semper Tyrannis)
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To: Enchante

I’d be willing to accept the cumulative value of them. But where are those numbers from?


19 posted on 11/24/2010 8:05:34 AM PST by coloradan (The US has become a banana republic, except without the bananas - or the republic.)
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To: John S Mosby
There is an ethanol commodities market, no? And corn futures. Explain how this decision, which is demonstrably causing havoc in the small engine field as well as in automobiles that are paid for, is a good one?

And affected the standard of living of poor people who saw food costs rise.

20 posted on 11/24/2010 8:07:48 AM PST by a fool in paradise (The establishment clause isn't just against my OWN government establishing state religion in America)
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To: Leonard210

And asking for a “reach around” from his massager- he is well named. Gore, as in “Blood, especially that from a wound when thickened due to exposure to the air” .

Or, as a verb”To pierce with the horns. The bull gored the matador.”

We’ve been gored all right with the help of Bob “the dole”.


21 posted on 11/24/2010 8:12:01 AM PST by John S Mosby (Sic Semper Tyrannis)
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To: major-pelham

re: “the govt simply didn’t tax it”

but when competing energy sources ARE taxed then it amounts to a “subsidy” for ethanol in the market price

no, not a “direct” subsidy ala govt expenditures, but making non-ethanol fuel products comparatively more expensive and ethanol less expensive than its competitors


22 posted on 11/24/2010 8:26:07 AM PST by Enchante (What if the Olberdork returned to the air - and no one notices.... or cares?)
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To: Leonard210

“What a creepy human being.”

Ain’t that the truth!


23 posted on 11/24/2010 10:11:34 AM PST by EEDUDE
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To: Enchante; coloradan

Yes, I think you found a fault, that total lifetime was 7-8 billion, but not per year.


24 posted on 11/24/2010 10:38:15 AM PST by Leisler (They always lie, and have for so much and for so long, that they no longer know what about.)
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To: major-pelham

So ethanol saved the economy in total money?

No. It was a burden. An imposed burden, that free people, free markets wouldn’t of chosen.

Tax is a forced burden with a number put to it.

We are just arguing about the number. The force and the burden are facts.


25 posted on 11/24/2010 10:42:58 AM PST by Leisler (They always lie, and have for so much and for so long, that they no longer know what about.)
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To: Enchante
Oh WOE is me... whys everybody always pickin on me???

listen... warming, cooling, it was 50/50. so i took a shot!!!

26 posted on 11/24/2010 2:01:32 PM PST by Chode (American Hedonist - *DTOM* -ww- NO Pity for the LAZY)
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To: Enchante

You’re right, we all should always believe Al Gore, particularly when he says he’s wrong about something. Which he has indeed done. This appears to be the very first time that he’s done so.

It’s a lot better to subsidize the “bone-idle bums” (as P.J. O’Rourke called them) in the OPEC countries by buying overpriced oil, than it would be to reopen some land to ethanol production as part of bringing about not only US energy independence, but also an end to the financing of our own demise by the world caliphate.


27 posted on 11/24/2010 8:02:05 PM PST by SunkenCiv (The 2nd Amendment follows right behind the 1st because some people are hard of hearing.)
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http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/40317079/ns/us_news-environment/


28 posted on 11/24/2010 8:02:49 PM PST by SunkenCiv (The 2nd Amendment follows right behind the 1st because some people are hard of hearing.)
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To: YukonGreen

Al “massage my adductors” Gore does not have a prayer. He is a pariah even amoungst his own kind. He is a joke (albeit a fat one) and hasn’t one ounce of credibility.


29 posted on 11/24/2010 8:40:56 PM PST by Joan912 (I used to think that the day would never come...)
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To: SunkenCiv

There are better ways to do that than wasting time/money on pipe dreams like ethanol.


30 posted on 11/25/2010 4:28:50 AM PST by jospehm20
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To: Enchante

A good alternative for all this ethanol would be to bottle it, slap on STOLICHNAYA labels, and sell it to the Russians.


31 posted on 11/25/2010 10:19:07 PM PST by Brad from Tennessee (A politician can't give you anything he hasn't first stolen from you.)
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