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Why Are We Still in Korea?
Townhall.com ^ | November 26, 2010 | Pat Buchanan

Posted on 11/26/2010 8:45:17 AM PST by Kaslin

This writer was 11 years old when the shocking news came on June 25, 1950, that North Korean armies had crossed the DMZ.

Within days, Seoul had fallen. Routed U.S. and Republic of Korea troops were retreating toward an enclave in the southeast corner of the peninsula that came to be known as the Pusan perimeter.

In September came Gen. MacArthur's masterstroke: the Marine landing at Inchon behind enemy lines, the cut-off and collapse of the North Korean Army, recapture of Seoul and the march to the Yalu.

"Home by Christmas!" we were all saying.

Then came the mass intervention of a million "volunteers" of the People's Liberation Army that had, in October 1949, won the civil war against our Nationalist Chinese allies. Suddenly, the U.S. Army and Marines were in headlong retreat south. Seoul fell a second time.

There followed a war of attrition, the firing of MacArthur, the repudiation of Harry Truman and his "no-win war," the election of Ike and, in June 1953, an armistice along the DMZ where the war began.

Fifty-seven years after that armistice, a U.S. carrier task force is steaming toward the Yellow Sea in a show of force after the North fired 80 shells into a South Korean village.

We will stand by our Korean allies, says President Obama. And with our security treaty and 28,000 U.S. troops in South Korea, many on the DMZ, we can do no other. But why, 60 years after the first Korean War, should Americans be the first to die in a second Korean War?

Unlike 1950, South Korea is not an impoverished ex-colony of Japan. She is the largest of all the "Asian tigers," a nation with twice the population and 40 times the economy of the North.

Seoul just hosted the G-20. And there is no Maoist China or Stalinist Soviet Union equipping Pyongyang's armies. The planes, guns, tanks and ships of the South are far superior in quality.

Why, then, are we still in South Korea? Why is this quarrel our quarrel? Why is this war, should it come, America's war?

High among the reasons we fought in Korea was Japan, then a nation rising from the ashes after half its cities had been reduced to rubble. But, for 50 years now, Japan has had the second largest economy and is among the most advanced nations on earth.

Why cannot Japan defend herself? Why does this remain our responsibility, 65 years after MacArthur took the surrender in Tokyo Bay?

The Soviet Empire, against which we defended Japan, no longer exists, nor does the Soviet Union. Russia holds the southern Kurils, taken as spoils from World War II, but represents no threat. Indeed, Tokyo is helping develop Russia's resources in Siberia.

Why, when the Cold War has been over for 20 years, do all these Cold War alliances still exist?

Obama has just returned from a Lisbon summit of NATO, an alliance formed in 1949 to defend Western Europe from Soviet tank armies on the other side of the Iron Curtain that threatened to roll to the Channel. Today, that Red Army no longer exists, the captive nations are free, and Russia's president was in Lisbon as an honored guest of NATO.

Yet we still have tens of thousands of U.S. troops in the same bases they were in when Gen. Eisenhower became supreme allied commander more than 60 years ago.

Across Europe, our NATO allies are slashing defense to maintain social safety nets. But Uncle Sam, he soldiers on.

We borrow from Europe to defend Europe. We borrow from Japan and China to defend Japan from China. We borrow from the Gulf Arabs to defend the Gulf Arabs.

To broker peace in Palestine, Obama began his presidency with a demand that Israel halt all new construction of settlements in East Jerusalem and the West Bank.

Today, as his price for a one-time-only 90-day freeze on new construction on the West Bank, but not East Jerusalem, "Bibi" Netanyahu is demanding 20 F-35 strike fighters, a U.S. commitment to a Security Council veto of any Palestinian declaration of independence, and assurances the U.S. will support a permanent Israeli presence on the Jordan river. And the Israelis want it all in writing.

This, from a client state upon which we have lavished a hundred billion dollars in military aid and defended diplomatically for decades.

How to explain why America behaves as she does?

From 1941 to 1989, she played a great heroic role as defender of freedom, sacrificing and serving mankind, a role of which we can be forever proud. But having won that epochal struggle against the evil empire, we found ourselves in a world for which we were unprepared. Now, like an aging athlete, we keep trying to relive the glory days when all the world looked with awe upon us.

We can't let go, because we don't know what else to do. We live in yesterday -- and our rivals look to tomorrow.


TOPICS: Editorial; Foreign Affairs; Israel
KEYWORDS: dmz; israel; korea; military; paulestinians; paulistinians; pitchforkpat; ronpaul; us
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To: dragnet2; All

It is working real well.....


101 posted on 11/26/2010 1:53:53 PM PST by KevinDavis (I have no problem with a black president. But the one we have now is yellow to the core)
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To: radpolis
I was in Asia during 9/11. There was the official line, the mainstream media line, and there was the man on the street. The man on the street thought we got what we deserved. American conservatives better get this and get it quick: We Americans only have each other. Nobody is going to EVER bail us out. If Mexico invaded tomorrow, the world would unite behind Mexico

How is it possible people can't see this?

102 posted on 11/26/2010 1:59:08 PM PST by dragnet2
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To: KevinDavis
Cause we are still at war with North Korea.. We can hide our heads in the sand all we want.. Isolationism never worked..

Who's war? It was a U.N police action and the U.S. never declared war on NK.

You might be living in some 1950s dream world, where all these other countries once respected the U.S. and were our allies... Those days are LONG over, as most of the world looks at us with utter contempt.

Get yourself updated.

103 posted on 11/26/2010 2:07:34 PM PST by dragnet2
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To: radpolis
Thanks for the info.

As for Korea, we never declared war with them. It was a UN police action that got us involved.

We would have gotten involved anyway. Domino theory and all that. It's just that back then the other members of the UN cared about things other than bashing Americans and Jews.

104 posted on 11/26/2010 2:37:13 PM PST by Mr. Silverback (Anyone who says we need illegals to do the jobs Americans won't do has never watched "Dirty Jobs.")
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To: dragnet2; All

No it is you who needs to live in the present.. Not the Isolationist 30’s period... Oh by the way I’m sure Congress also approved of the Korean Conflict.. We did stop the Reds in their tracks..


105 posted on 11/26/2010 2:43:10 PM PST by KevinDavis (I have no problem with a black president. But the one we have now is yellow to the core)
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To: Mr. Silverback

Touche.

True.

“We would have gotten involved anyway. Domino theory and all that. It’s just that back then the other members of the UN cared about things other than bashing Americans and Jews.”


106 posted on 11/26/2010 2:46:26 PM PST by radpolis (Liberals: You will never find a more wretched hive of scum and villainy)
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To: KevinDavis
You go right ahead Kevin, and support another war...Mix it up with Communist China and their good friends the North Korean...Put all your support behind it Kevin...

Gung ho Kevin!!

107 posted on 11/26/2010 2:59:55 PM PST by dragnet2
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To: Mr. Silverback
The SouK people would have to perform sneak attack to save NorK and SouK lives.. and probably use theater nukes too.. maybe neutron nukes.. If they care of their own people(NorK) they would do this.. Would be bloody but any civil war would be..

China would hate this.. but first the Americans would have to completely GET OUT...

108 posted on 11/26/2010 3:00:55 PM PST by hosepipe (This propaganda has been edited to include some fully orbed hyperbole....)
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To: bert; KevinDavis
We never were at war with NK.

We stay there because it is the only footprint we have left anywhere in continental Asia. I'm sure that you can see the value in that.

109 posted on 11/26/2010 3:04:29 PM PST by wtc911 ("How you gonna get down that hill?")
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To: ASA Vet
The fact is that there are fewer than 300 US troops actually in or very near the DMZ, and they are members of the Battalion Scouts in the JSA.

The roks have carried that burden for years.

110 posted on 11/26/2010 3:07:11 PM PST by wtc911 ("How you gonna get down that hill?")
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To: mylife
Dont be shocked if the Chicoms try to retake Taiwan on Obamas watch

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Please provide a detailed scenario.

111 posted on 11/26/2010 3:09:00 PM PST by wtc911 ("How you gonna get down that hill?")
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To: mylife; All

“Dont be shocked if the Chicoms try to retake Taiwan on Obamas watch”

If we are in a position of helping South Korea stop a major invasion attempt....I expect Red China to sit passively until we are fully engaged and then attack and take Taiwan while we are too busy to do anything to stop it.


112 posted on 11/26/2010 3:45:52 PM PST by Sola Veritas (Trying to speak truth - not always with the best grammar or spelling)
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To: wtc911

The United States is engaged in a police action with north Korea that is in a state of cease fire. It never officially ended. It is ongoing.

Foot print in Asia is not the reason. We are there as part of the UN mission in the ongoing police action mission. Negotiations are still in progress at Panmumjon

We have major troop and air deployments in Asia..... in Afghanistan


113 posted on 11/26/2010 5:29:17 PM PST by bert (K.E. N.P. N.C. D.E. +12 .....( History is a process, not an event ))
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To: Kaslin

When will Pat admit why he is ignored so much and so often - because he’s so often wrong.


114 posted on 11/26/2010 6:08:30 PM PST by Wuli
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To: bert
As I said, we were never at war> And sorry, but the UN is not in SK, the US is. and we are there to provide us a base from which to stage and project power and influence throughout the region.

It's just silly to think of Afghanistan, which we can barely keep supplied, in the same vein.

115 posted on 11/26/2010 6:26:49 PM PST by wtc911 ("How you gonna get down that hill?")
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To: vladimir998

Yep, I was just thinking the same thing.
Doesn’t take long for Pat to get around to sounding all
his old themes, even when we do understand the obvious points he’s making. But just what exactly are N. Korea’s designs? To destroy S. Korea or (chuckle) ‘take it over’?
Does anyone think N Korea could do any more than it’s currently doing, just do it over and over until some combined force of S Korea and the USA have to respond?
And is the next development seen to be North Korea’s apocalyptic use of nuclear weapons on S Korea, and by extension, US?? Someone please clarify. Tell me if this is anything more than the new, young lunatic in charge just making his bones.....


116 posted on 11/26/2010 7:16:55 PM PST by supremedoctrine (Come closer. I want to get a better look at you.)
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To: Kaslin

No real ally of our would undervalue their currency to gain a trade advantage. Japan, Korean and Taiwan surely do.. , For the shame of all of them and our shame for accepting this.


117 posted on 11/26/2010 8:56:25 PM PST by Last Dakotan
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To: wideawake

I wonder what would have happened if the Kaiser had won WW1. No Nazis in Germany would be a good guess. Also possibly no Bolsheviks taking power in Russia?


118 posted on 11/26/2010 9:33:20 PM PST by Borges
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To: Borges
The situation in Russia developed prior to Germany's defeat - it was predicated on an assumption of German victory. I do not see how that would have changed. And a German victory would not have pacified the Freikorps. It would have split Germany into factions: those who supported the negotiated peace favored by the Kaiser and those who would have insisted on regrouping, rearming and crushing France for good. Both France and Germany had strong, popular and well-organized anti-Semitic and proto-fascist movements before WWI. I can't imagine that a tenuous peace negotiated by a technically victorious Germany would have pacified such factions on either side of the border.
119 posted on 11/27/2010 3:12:15 AM PST by wideawake
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To: IrishCatholic
Why do you think no aid would have reached Mexico?

The Mexican government itself didn't think that much German aid would make it to Mexico through the gauntlet of the Royal Navy.

I wasn't referring so much to religion as to ethnoculture. The Mexican government of the time didn't want to go to the trouble of assimilating by-now Anglo Texas.

120 posted on 11/27/2010 3:48:08 PM PST by Zionist Conspirator (VeYisra'el 'ahav 'et-Yosef mikol-banayv ki-ven-zequnim hu' lo; ve`asah lo ketonet passim.)
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