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Lesbian cadet who quit seeks return to West Point
Associated Press ^ | Nov. 26, 2010 | JOHN SEEWER

Posted on 11/26/2010 1:24:31 PM PST by Free ThinkerNY

FINDLAY, Ohio (AP) -- Katherine Miller got pretty good at hiding her sexuality in high school, brushing off questions about her weekend plans and referring to her girlfriend, Kristin, as "Kris."

She figured she could pull it off at the U.S. Military Academy at West Point, too.

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TOPICS: News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: academy; homosexualagenda; usma; westpoint

1 posted on 11/26/2010 1:24:33 PM PST by Free ThinkerNY
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To: Free ThinkerNY

What tiresome people.


2 posted on 11/26/2010 1:28:08 PM PST by Hans
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To: Free ThinkerNY
" U.S. lesbian and gay history and sexual gender in society - courses"?

What can't you get a degree for now?

3 posted on 11/26/2010 1:29:32 PM PST by SWAMPSNIPER (The Second Amendment, A Matter Of Fact, Not A Matter Of Opinion)
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To: Free ThinkerNY

Slap me stupid and call me silly. Who in the world did not know this was going to happen? Why else was ‘it’s’ departure so dramatic? Do they know any other way?


4 posted on 11/26/2010 1:29:42 PM PST by Dacula (Proud husband of a Breast Cancer survivor.)
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To: Free ThinkerNY
Other than the routine interrogations married people impose on each other to promote and assure fidelity, when does what you are doing with your special purpose parts become part of the conversation?
5 posted on 11/26/2010 1:32:37 PM PST by kbennkc (For those who have fought for it freedom has a flavor the protected will never know .F Trp 8th Cav)
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To: Free ThinkerNY

You can’t quit while on patrol or at post. Why let her back when she’s quit before she’s even begun a military career and under false pretenses at that. Don’t set a precedent.


6 posted on 11/26/2010 1:32:48 PM PST by TheThinker (Communists: taking over the world one kooky doomsday scenario at a time.)
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To: Free ThinkerNY
You know, sometimes I think what this whole society needs is a big dose of You Can't Have Everything. I mean, really, that's what it boils down to. You can't have everything. If something about you provokes the majority to register disapproval, your choices are to live with the disapproval or keep your mouth shut.

For instance, I never wanted children. I'm a female that has no interest in having and raising kids. I got a lot of flak for that, "You're not a real woman," and "you're a biological dead-end," and "you're selfish and there is something wrong with you."

I could have avoided the disapproval by lying and saying I was sterile, or it just hasn't happened for me yet, or often just keeping my big mouth shut. As it is, I opted for shooting off at the mouth and getting into arguments with people. It would have been NICE to have people simply accept that some of us don't want children... but... most people just don't understand this so I didn't get the acceptance. End of the world? No. You see, you just can't have everything.

I would say this to anyone who in some way or another doesn't fit into the mainstream. Look: if you aren't being actively persecuted, just appreciate what's good in your life and stop expecting that some day everyone will By God Learn to accept you. Why should they? There are things I don't accept about other people. We cannot all have an endless daily supply of validation, reassurance, and support. You get some things; you don't get others. That's life.

7 posted on 11/26/2010 1:33:06 PM PST by A_perfect_lady (Islam is as Islam does.)
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To: Dacula

Third year student ~ she was doing OK and then “they” put Obama into office and she thought she could “come out” ~ obviously she had not studied the situation sufficiently.


8 posted on 11/26/2010 1:34:09 PM PST by muawiyah (GIT OUT THE WAY ~ REPUBLICANS COMIN' THROUGH)
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To: SWAMPSNIPER
What can't you get a degree for now?

Something useful?

9 posted on 11/26/2010 1:35:58 PM PST by meyer (Hey Obama - It's the end of the world as you know it.... ..... and I feel fine!)
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To: Free ThinkerNY
"Adm. Mike Mullen told ABC's "This Week" this month that asking people to lie about themselves goes against the integrity of the armed forces."

No one was supposed to ask so this sounds rather phony.

10 posted on 11/26/2010 1:36:07 PM PST by ex-snook ("Above all things, truth beareth away the victory")
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To: Free ThinkerNY

honor violation


11 posted on 11/26/2010 1:37:27 PM PST by NonValueAdded (Palin 2012: don't retreat, just reload)
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To: muawiyah

and SHE wants to be a leader?


13 posted on 11/26/2010 1:41:00 PM PST by Dacula (Proud husband of a Breast Cancer survivor.)
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To: Free ThinkerNY
A friend of mine whose son entered the Academy from the enlisted ranks of the Army sent me a book titled "The West Point Way of Leadership".

I've read that book twice now and nowhere have I seen any evidence of "I" or "Me" or one's sexual preferences. The I's and Me's and one's sexuality are non-existant, the Academy is about Duty, Honor and Country.........Any violation of those three principles deserves expulsion with no chance of reinstatement.

The mere fact that this lesbian is attempting to get reinstated following her voluntary resignation is proof that she does not, nor ever has, embraced the code of West Point........

14 posted on 11/26/2010 1:50:41 PM PST by Hot Tabasco (There's only one cure for Obamarrhea......)
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To: Free ThinkerNY

I might come across as an old timer, but my problem is not with her sexuality. It is with her breaking the honor code.

When you break the honor code, it is not about the lie or the theft. It is about a complete disregard for your comrades-the folks that have committed to to living under the code. It is about trust. And when you lose that, you have abdicated the right to lead.

Sorry Charlie, you’ve been weighed and measured. And you have come up short.


15 posted on 11/26/2010 1:54:14 PM PST by Vermont Lt (Don't taze my junk bro.)
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To: A_perfect_lady

What a well reasoned post, I enjoyed reading it and it made me think. Your name is perfect as was your post!


16 posted on 11/26/2010 1:57:51 PM PST by pepperdog (Why are Democrats Afraid of a Voter ID Law?)
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To: Free ThinkerNY

as screwed-up PC as the military is nowadays, she’d probably fit right in.


17 posted on 11/26/2010 2:05:39 PM PST by bigbob
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To: ex-snook
"I couldn't work up the courage to foster an argument against what they were saying for fear of being targeted as a gay myself"

She presumes herself a would be leader but can't even summon up the courage to engage in verbal combat.

18 posted on 11/26/2010 2:07:24 PM PST by Starboard
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To: ex-snook
Hey Admiral ...So making people with a potential sexual attraction to one another share quarters, and thus vastly increase the possibility of of sexual assault, sexual harassment, false accusations, not to mention letting peole keep just a little dignity, has some thing to do with integrity?

Maybe someone forgot to tell the Admiral that no one is handing out fifth stars anymore, so he can stopping selling out his troops to kiss Obama's @#$.

19 posted on 11/26/2010 2:14:25 PM PST by Red Dog #1
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To: Free ThinkerNY
she is nothing but a sneaky Thief. We, taxpayers, paid for her first 2 years at the best Military Academy in the World. If she had waited one week later to resign, she would have had to pay us back. That is premeditated theft. She says she understands there will be "hostility toward her." ahem.... more than hostility....I would prefer to see her completely marginalized... She is a thief, a lying thief who knowingly stole from taxpayers.
20 posted on 11/26/2010 2:15:20 PM PST by bareford101 (For me, there is no difference in a tolerant, open mind and a cess pool. Both are open to filth.)
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To: pepperdog

Thank you. That’s the nicest response I’m likely to get.


21 posted on 11/26/2010 2:17:24 PM PST by A_perfect_lady (Islam is as Islam does.)
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To: Free ThinkerNY

West Point is there to build leaders.
Someone that lives a life of lies is hardly a candidate for such a program.


22 posted on 11/26/2010 2:18:57 PM PST by SECURE AMERICA
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To: A_perfect_lady

Well done, El Perfecto — and Happy Thanksgiving!


23 posted on 11/26/2010 2:22:52 PM PST by JennysCool (My hypocrisy goes only so far)
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To: JennysCool

If she quit the USMA, did she reimburse the Army for the free education she was given? She chose to violate the contract she signed to get out, as far as I know, so why hasn’t she made restitution?


24 posted on 11/26/2010 2:38:31 PM PST by MasterGunner01 (To err is human; to forgive is not our policy. -- SEAL Team SIX)
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To: Hans
repeal the 1993 law by the end of the year. The U.S. House already has signed off on the idea, ....will this all happen before the House changes hands?

Adm. Mike Mullen told ABC's "This Week" this month that asking people to lie about themselves goes against the integrity of the armed forces.....so keeping your mouth shut about a controversial subject constitutes lying?

25 posted on 11/26/2010 2:53:21 PM PST by tioga
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To: Free ThinkerNY

They had this person on ESPN Outside The Lines a few weeks ago.

I don’t care if her preference is for men, women, dogs or cats but she was insufferably smug not to mention clueless considering the policy was in place long before she thought about attending.

“I shouldn’t have to lie about who I am.”

You’re right - you shouldn’t. Go be genuine at another school where it won’t break a rule.


26 posted on 11/26/2010 3:00:53 PM PST by relictele
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To: Vermont Lt

It’s both. Homosexuals are mentally and morally ill and do not belong in the military or military schools.


27 posted on 11/26/2010 3:14:07 PM PST by little jeremiah (Courage is not simply one of the virtues, but the form of every virtue at the testing point.CSLewis)
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To: Free ThinkerNY
This woman knew the rules when she applied to West Point and now she whines about 'having to lie about who she is'? She is a female that prefers other females as sex partners. That's it. This is absurd. What she really wants is to have the military's rules changed to accommodate her sexual perversity while she attends the academy on the taxpayers dime. We used to call this "having your cake and eating it, too". No sympathy here.
28 posted on 11/26/2010 3:18:40 PM PST by Jim Scott
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To: tioga

how many liberals who are straight would be comfortable sharing berthing facilities with a gay person? That is the one question they do not ask. This can really be critcial when you lack privacy and deployed for months at a time when the desires raise up. In Dessert Storm 30% of female sailors shipped home due pregancy including those married and separated from hubby.
I for one recall the odor created every month especially when you lack adequate washing facilities for females. It was bad enough between males..


29 posted on 11/26/2010 3:32:34 PM PST by spookie (SPOOKIE)
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To: Free ThinkerNY
For now, Miller is attending Yale University and taking three classes, including U.S. lesbian and gay history and sexual gender in society - courses not found at the academy.

I cannot believe any school would offer such a ridiculous class!!!!

She has found freedom in the school's gay community and likes staying up late. Still, her heart is in West Point.

She is full of sh!t. She wanted to go to West Point just to say she went to West Point. How do you attend the premier military school and not understand that the Military is NOT about YOU? She does not belong amongst those willing to serve, she is too self centered. Obviously there were other others who CHOSE to NOT make an issue about their sexuality and forge through. If the only way you can function in life is to identify with you sex life then the military is not the place for you, find something else more suited to your "identity".

30 posted on 11/26/2010 3:40:19 PM PST by panthermom
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To: ex-snook

I am shocked and deeply embarrassed about the fool who is Adm. Mullen.


31 posted on 11/26/2010 3:57:46 PM PST by ViLaLuz (2 Chronicles 7:14)
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To: pepperdog
What a well reasoned post, I enjoyed reading it and it made me think. Your name is perfect as was your post!

Thanks for posting that endorsement of A Perfect Lady. I agree wholeheartedly.

32 posted on 11/26/2010 4:06:45 PM PST by OldPossum
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To: Free ThinkerNY

Future head of DHS?


33 posted on 11/26/2010 4:07:54 PM PST by HANG THE EXPENSE (Life is tough.It's tougher when you're stupid.)
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To: Hot Tabasco

Well said, HT. Full marks.


34 posted on 11/26/2010 4:08:19 PM PST by Zuben Elgenubi
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To: Free ThinkerNY; All

“The harshest criticism from her former classmates came after she wore her dress whites while walking the red carpet with Lady Gaga at the MTV Video Music Awards. They felt she was using her uniform to make a political statement.”

....her former classmates are right...she besmirches the uniform by doing that....BUT....with Obama in the WH, I’d say the odds are very good she’ll get back in the USMA...and guess what?....when that happens; the MSM and intellectuals will celebrate her as a ‘pioneer’ and swoon over her ‘courage’


35 posted on 11/26/2010 4:22:16 PM PST by STONEWALLS
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To: A_perfect_lady
For instance, I never wanted children. I'm a female that has no interest in having and raising kids. I got a lot of flak for that, "You're not a real woman," and "you're a biological dead-end," and "you're selfish and there is something wrong with you."

Anyone who would say those things to you is stupid beyond belief. Having or not having children has to be one of the most personal decisions one could make.

My wife and I have 4 adult children, 13 grand children and 4 great grands. The newest g/daughter born just this week. That's all our business and your choices are yours. God bless you.

36 posted on 11/26/2010 4:44:07 PM PST by Graybeard58
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To: Jim Scott
"We used to call this "having your cake and eating it, too".

In this case I think it's more a matter of having your pie and eating it too.

37 posted on 11/26/2010 4:49:18 PM PST by Joe 6-pack (Que me amat, amet et canem meum)
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To: Hans

Even the fag who sued the Army who got out...wants in again. These damn drama queens.


38 posted on 11/26/2010 5:53:17 PM PST by max americana
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To: Free ThinkerNY

Real officers don’t give a rats axe about another officer’s sex life (unless it’s their spouse’s sex life that is). So STFU and don’t tell. And don’t try to make me appreciate your alternate lifestyle because I follow the Bible and I think your alternate lifestyle is immoral and against God’s will for you.


39 posted on 11/26/2010 5:59:44 PM PST by yldstrk (My heroes have always been cowboys)
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To: Free ThinkerNY
In better days, no lesbian would be accepted in the military academies. In the best of days, no women were admitted to the military academies. We live in the worst of days when lesbians and feminists run the military. I am thankful that our military has only had to fight the likes of Iraqis and Afghans. If they had to fight the Viet Cong or the North Koreans, they would be hauling female corpses away by the truck load. I would like to see how long these lesbians would last in the Hanoi Hilton. These people have no clue what it means to fight a really nasty war.
40 posted on 11/26/2010 9:31:46 PM PST by Nosterrex
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To: MasterGunner01

No. she quit just before she was required to pay back the two years of free education. I guess she found out Yale was too expensive.


41 posted on 11/27/2010 4:17:32 AM PST by bjorn14 (Woe to those who call good evil and evil good. Isaiah 5:20)
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To: A_perfect_lady

Excellent post.


42 posted on 11/27/2010 9:42:08 AM PST by wardaddy ("Out Here" by Josh Thompson pretty much says it all to those who will never understand anyhow)
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To: Starboard

I’m guessing she did not excell in English.


43 posted on 11/29/2010 2:35:55 PM PST by POWERSBOOTHEFAN (Those who forget the past are condemned to repeat it.)
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