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How 250,000 US embassy cables were leaked
UK Guardian ^ | 11/28/2010 | David Leigh

Posted on 11/28/2010 5:07:33 PM PST by PhilosopherStone1000

An innocuous-looking memory stick, no longer than a couple of fingernails, came into the hands of a Guardian reporter earlier this year. The device is so small it will hang easily on a keyring. But its contents will send shockwaves through the world's chancelleries and deliver what one official described as "an epic blow" to US diplomacy.

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The US military believes it knows where the leak originated. A soldier, Bradley Manning, 22, has been held in solitary confinement for the last seven months and is facing a court martial in the new year. The former intelligence analyst is charged with unauthorised downloads of classified material while serving on an army base outside Baghdad. He is suspected of taking copies not only of the state department archive, but also of video of an Apache helicopter crew gunning down civilians in Baghdad, and hundreds of thousands of daily war logs from military operations in Afghanistan and Iraq.

(Excerpt) Read more at guardian.co.uk ...


TOPICS: Government; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: 0bamasfault; fdrq; gaysinthemilitary; homoagendaalert; homosexualagenda; manning; obamasfault; wiki; wikileak
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Read the whole thing and look upon the face of a traitor. I know that the US needs military bodies, but I bet I could have figured out he was a traitorous leftie in five minutes of questioning.
1 posted on 11/28/2010 5:07:35 PM PST by PhilosopherStone1000
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To: PhilosopherStone1000

death penalty for treason


2 posted on 11/28/2010 5:10:15 PM PST by jtal
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To: PhilosopherStone1000

So all these embassy leaks were the work of this sicko fag as well?


3 posted on 11/28/2010 5:11:30 PM PST by little jeremiah (Courage is not simply one of the virtues, but the form of every virtue at the testing point.CSLewis)
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To: jtal

Amen to that!


4 posted on 11/28/2010 5:11:38 PM PST by Ptarmigan (God Hates Bunnies.)
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To: PhilosopherStone1000

..this little queer will soon be hailed as a ‘pioneer’ by the MSM...with a book/movie deal to follow.


5 posted on 11/28/2010 5:11:42 PM PST by STONEWALLS
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To: PhilosopherStone1000

what some people will do for attention.


6 posted on 11/28/2010 5:13:20 PM PST by the invisib1e hand (every bad idea once seemed good to someone.)
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To: jtal

If we had a REAL CIA this would have never happen.


7 posted on 11/28/2010 5:13:47 PM PST by Lurking in Kansas (Sic Semper Tyrannis)
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To: PhilosopherStone1000

I know that Jane Fonda set the bar very high for prosecution of treason, but if this doesn’t constitute treason… nothing ever will. Sadly, I don’t think anything ever will.


8 posted on 11/28/2010 5:14:23 PM PST by rlmorel ("We treat terrorists with kid gloves, and our citizens with rubber gloves." Rush Limbaugh)
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To: jtal

Executive finding for Assmange....POTUS is too ball-less to do it..


9 posted on 11/28/2010 5:16:09 PM PST by RadioCirca1970 (Victory or Death in the War on Terror)
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To: PhilosopherStone1000

http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/video/2010/nov/28/us-embassy-leaks-data


10 posted on 11/28/2010 5:16:45 PM PST by Flavius (A)
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To: jtal

Yep


11 posted on 11/28/2010 5:18:30 PM PST by freekitty (Give me back my conservative vote; then find me a real conservative to vote for)
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To: rlmorel

There’s something missing here.

WikiLeaks directs its activity against the United States, almost exclusively.

Not against, for example, the Chinese.

Were I in Chinese intelligence, I would set something like WikiLeaks up and enable damaging information to leak out.

WikiLeaks looks as if it is a convenient cover for something else altogether.

I’m not completely buying the cover story about how all this information got out.

Best,

Chris


12 posted on 11/28/2010 5:19:55 PM PST by section9
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To: PhilosopherStone1000

WTH? This guy Manning is a PFC. How did he get access to so much secret material? Either no one is minding the store or something else might be going on.


13 posted on 11/28/2010 5:21:57 PM PST by Robwin
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To: jtal

I agree. But our current administration doesn’t have the balls to do it (assuming he is found guilty).


14 posted on 11/28/2010 5:22:49 PM PST by comps4spice (The Obama Administration: Creators of Sexual Assault in the name of TSA)
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To: jtal
death penalty for treason

This is a crime against people struggling against tyranny, the aiding and abeting of the murder of covert operatives and a therefore a crime against humanity. Foreign nationals who publish it should also be the recipients of the maximum penalty covert operations are capable of administering. Is there such a thing as an American Fatwah?

15 posted on 11/28/2010 5:25:09 PM PST by DWar ("The ultimate destination of Political Correctness is totalitarianism.")
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To: section9

I don’t buy it either. The kid is a fallguy. His handlers and others coordinating this are still out there.


16 posted on 11/28/2010 5:25:09 PM PST by SpaceBar
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To: Robwin

My thoughts exactly.


17 posted on 11/28/2010 5:25:46 PM PST by Past Your Eyes (I'd open it myself but I don't have any thumbs.)
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To: PhilosopherStone1000

All I can say is, Mitch Rapp I have a job for you.


18 posted on 11/28/2010 5:29:09 PM PST by mc5cents
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To: Lurking in Kansas
>> If we had a REAL CIA this would have never happen. <<

However bad and incompetent the CIA may be, this series of leaks doesn't appear to be their fault. Based on all that I've seen, the Agency would seem to be entirely blameless.

Rather, the finger of blame should be pointed at the "genius" (or group of "geniuses") in State and/or DOD who decided that such material should be made available to low-level personnel without regard to the old-fashioned security rule of "need to know."

19 posted on 11/28/2010 5:29:21 PM PST by Hawthorn
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To: SpaceBar

This is why a series of “accidents” and criminal charges need to happen to associates and perhaps close family members of people suspected to be involved. It may be dirty but if the wikileak people for for just not themselves but those they care and love for then this madness will stop. To some of them it is fun and games but in the end real people will die because of this.


20 posted on 11/28/2010 5:30:40 PM PST by aft_lizard (Barack Obama is Hugo Chavez's poodle.)
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To: Hawthorn

Real Hearings in the House is the only way we find out something.


21 posted on 11/28/2010 5:30:48 PM PST by scooby321
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To: PhilosopherStone1000
If all these "leaks" are as damaging as they say, what I can't figure out is why the pres of Wikileaks is still alive..

...I would have sent a "Mitch Rapp" in already to discuss things with Julian Assange after the first threat of leaks.

That being said...there must be something else going on here....even as timid as pres. Zer0 is, he surely would have done something about Wikileaks before now if the leaks were really doing great damage. Hell...Homeland Security has seized websites for no more than file transfers...and they cannot sieze Wikileaks for breaches of U.S. security?....

...nope....don't make much sense to me.....there has to be something else going on....

24 posted on 11/28/2010 5:33:12 PM PST by B.O. Plenty (Give war a chance...)
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To: section9

Well, I think there are a lot of other explanations that are plausible, and yours could carry water. However, it is important to remember that the people who run Wikileaks are fanatically anti-American and anticapitalist. They think that the USA is the root of all the environmental and societal problems in the world today… to them, China doesn’t even rate.

That’s only because I haven’t had to live under Chinese regime. It reminds me of the satirical book “Protesting for Useful Idiots”. It’s pretty funny, and covers some interesting topics such as:
using children for maximum impact
best ways to compare Bush to Hitler
chance: should they rhyme or be true?
How to shut down your opponents when they start making sense
keeping the TV cameras away from the real wackos
plus: find out which SUVs can hold the most “no blood for oil” signs

(Also includes bonus “down with America” coloring book for kids!)

But it does have a red warning sticker on the front of the book that states WARNING: PROTESTING UNDER AN ACTUAL EVIL AND/OR REPRESSIVE GOVERNMENT MAY RESULT IN TORTURE, DISAPPEARANCE, OR DEATH.

The founders of the Wikileaks site have never had to live under actual evil or repressive government. They have no clue…


25 posted on 11/28/2010 5:33:12 PM PST by rlmorel ("We treat terrorists with kid gloves, and our citizens with rubber gloves." Rush Limbaugh)
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To: PhilosopherStone1000
A soldier, Bradley Manning, 22... The former intelligence analyst is charged with unauthorised downloads of classified material while serving on an army base outside Baghdad. He is suspected of taking copies not only of the state department archive, but also of video of an Apache helicopter crew gunning down civilians in Baghdad, and hundreds of thousands of daily war logs from military operations in Afghanistan and Iraq.

Nice "security."

Some 22 year old noobie aka "intel analyst" gains access to The Vault of Vaults? Was the access password, "PASSWORD"??

From top-to-bottom this entire fiasco sounds like BS.

26 posted on 11/28/2010 5:33:35 PM PST by Conservative Tsunami (2012: "Ich bin ein Tea Party-er!")
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To: advance_copy

Which gives this a whole nother twist altogether... Did Dumb0 let this happen just in order to taint the only viable primary threat to his 2012 run? Will he blame this all on State and make Hillary take the fall?

Were it not so serious, it would make for some fun tin-foil hat cogitating...


27 posted on 11/28/2010 5:36:55 PM PST by PhilosopherStone1000
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To: section9
Heck, I should have just posted the pic...this is humorous, but relevant, IMO. But you may well be correct...their intelligence services are playing chess while ours are playing checkers.


28 posted on 11/28/2010 5:36:56 PM PST by rlmorel ("We treat terrorists with kid gloves, and our citizens with rubber gloves." Rush Limbaugh)
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To: SpaceBar

He added: “Information should be free. It belongs in the public domain


If this kid is a fall guy, he is an extremely stupid one as he’s helping to hang himself with his own words. To be honest, it is very easy to believe that his guy (or others in his age group) did it. His philosphy (enumerated above) is shared by a substanial segment of people under 27—if not an outright majority. These are the kids who grew up post Cold War and are used to downloading stuff for free (music, software, books, etc). To them, things like patents, trade secrets, copyrights, classifications and perhaps even the concept of ownership mean little—they are just barriers to “freedom”.

No doubt this traitor considers himself a hero. If found guilty, he should be executed as an example on general principles. Maybe that will teach his generation about the consequences of their actions. But, more than likely, they’ll put his picture on t-shirts—like Che.


29 posted on 11/28/2010 5:37:37 PM PST by rbg81 (When you see Obama, shout: "DO YOUR JOB!!")
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To: Conservative Tsunami

Not too hard if the “security” is the same as it was in Stalag 17.


30 posted on 11/28/2010 5:39:30 PM PST by mc5cents
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To: jtal

From Article 106A of the Uniform Code of Military Conduct (UCMJ)

A) (1) Any person subject to this chapter who, with intent or reason to believe that it is to be used to the injury of the United States or to the advantage of a foreign nation, communicates, delivers, or transmits, or attempts to communicate, deliver, or transmit, to any entity described in paragraph (2), either directly or indirectly, any thing described in paragraph (3) shall be punished as a court-martial may direct, except that if the accused is found guilty of an offense that directly concerns (A) nuclear weaponry, military spacecraft or satellites, early warning systems, or other means of defense or retaliation against large scale attack, (B) war plans, (C) communications intelligence or cryptographic information, or (D) any other major weapons system or major element of defense strategy, the accused shall be punished by death or such other punishment as a court- martial may direct.


31 posted on 11/28/2010 5:39:51 PM PST by ops33 (Senior Master Sergeant, USAF (Retired))
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To: PhilosopherStone1000

Here’s the question I have not seen asked anywhere. How in the hell did an unsupervised e-nothing doggie get access to State Dept. stuff? Heads should be falling up and down the chain but you know they’re not. They’re all covering their collective asses and hoping people will buy the message that this happened because the kid was a fag.


32 posted on 11/28/2010 5:39:51 PM PST by atomic_dog
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To: little jeremiah

Y’all are falling for the bait. As one who has been on the inside, this is far more reaching than a faggot who got jilted. Too many safeguards, checkpoints and physical security layers unless those in the chain were also compicit.

Ask yourselves this question, if he did it himself, why has there not been any arrests for dereliction of duty for those who were asleep at the switch?


33 posted on 11/28/2010 5:40:10 PM PST by mazda77 (Mike Hogan - JAX Mayor)
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To: STONEWALLS

MSM loves whistleblowers.


34 posted on 11/28/2010 5:42:36 PM PST by griswold3 (Employment is off-shored, away from govt. regulations, price pressure groups, and liabilities.)
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To: rbg81

I’ll bet he does consider himself a “hero” when you consider that his other “hero” is Rachel Madcow of PMSNBC fame.


35 posted on 11/28/2010 5:42:49 PM PST by FlingWingFlyer (Don't touch my junk!!!)
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To: Conservative Tsunami

I agree, it may very well be as you say… but keep in mind that the military does have very young people in positions to have access to a lot of stuff… stuff requiring responsibility. The military does indeed put young people in positions of responsibility.

As for security, I trace all this back to the Clinton White House, which probably did more to damage security at all levels than any other administration (or all other administrations combined up to this one) due to their handling of security.

If you have ever read the book “Unlimited Access” by Gary Aldrich (who was in charge of White House security and the vetting of security clearances for White House personnel) you will know exactly what I mean.

Bottom line, I can visualize exactly how some young idiot could get access to this material. As another poster stated above, you or I could have probably talked to the guy and figured out in just a few sentences just exactly who he was and what he was all about.

But… our current security mechanisms probably don’t allow that… that might be “prejudicial”, “judgmental”, or “discriminatory”.


36 posted on 11/28/2010 5:43:48 PM PST by rlmorel ("We treat terrorists with kid gloves, and our citizens with rubber gloves." Rush Limbaugh)
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To: advance_copy
This is going to hit Hillary Clinton and the entire diplomatic corps hard, really really hard. I'm betting she does not survive as SecState.

She'll survive because BO could care less about this info being released. I'm sure he is having a good chuckle about this with Michelle, Holder, and Jarrett.

37 posted on 11/28/2010 5:44:43 PM PST by Major Matt Mason (Looking forward to kicking Chicago out of Washington.)
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To: PhilosopherStone1000
The National Security State has been hung on its own petard. I am surely missing something here. Tell me again why We the People should NOT have access to all government communiques - are these communiques not ours already? Best Freegards
38 posted on 11/28/2010 5:45:05 PM PST by atc23
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To: scooby321

>> Real Hearings in the House is the only way we find out something. <<

Yep, and the “SIPRNet” system didn’t just appear out of the blue when Øbambi took office. It must have been approved and started quite some time ago — for example, when General Colon Piles was SecState or JCS Chief.

So, wouldn’t it be delicious if a House hearing should find a document showing that the General or his good buddy Armitage was a big SIPRNet fan!


39 posted on 11/28/2010 5:45:17 PM PST by Hawthorn
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To: Robwin
His MOS was Intelligence Analyst so of course he sees Top Secret Codeword material. Access has to do with job not with rank. He may have not been a senior analyst, meaning one who makes the call about what the data means. But he probably was supposed to write up and make it presentable to the “decision makers”.
40 posted on 11/28/2010 5:49:38 PM PST by Reily
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Bradley "jilted homo" Manning

That putz Admiral Mullen gets his wish.

42 posted on 11/28/2010 5:52:52 PM PST by A.A. Cunningham (Barry Soetoro is a Kenyan communist)
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To: atc23

I think your assumption is predicated on the premise that all actions, communications and intelligence operations are above the board all over the world and open to analysis.

It’s not realistic to think that’s the case, in my opinion, intelligence can be dirty, dangerous, under the board, and double handed. I think it’s just the nature of it in many cases, and if that is open to scrutiny on a constant basis by the general public in any country, and that means it will be open to scrutiny on a constant basis by everyone in the entire world.

The same for diplomacy, which is often forked tongued and double handed. I don’t agree with the premise that these things could and should be open to our constant daily examination.


43 posted on 11/28/2010 5:55:31 PM PST by rlmorel ("We treat terrorists with kid gloves, and our citizens with rubber gloves." Rush Limbaugh)
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To: PhilosopherStone1000

“Read the whole thing and look upon the face of a traitor. I know that the US needs military bodies, but I bet I could have figured out he was a traitorous leftie in five minutes of questioning.”

How did a 22 year old ‘anaylst’ get his hands on classified State Department documents?

We’re being led by the nose.


44 posted on 11/28/2010 5:55:31 PM PST by dljordan ("His father's sword he hath girded on, And his wild harp slung behind him")
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To: PhilosopherStone1000
How did this get leaked? Terrible security protocols that permitted a workstation access to hundreds of thousands of documents at the same time, and no tale tale alert when an absurdly large amount of them were accessed in the same session. Who designed this system, and why aren't they in jail?
45 posted on 11/28/2010 5:56:32 PM PST by kingu (Favorite Sticker: Lost hope, and Obama took my change.)
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To: PhilosopherStone1000
Obama's new Military Intelligence Czar.


Frowning takes 68 muscles.
Smiling takes 6.
Pulling this trigger takes 2.
I'm lazy.

46 posted on 11/28/2010 5:56:41 PM PST by The Comedian (Government: Saving people from freedom since time immemorial.)
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To: PhilosopherStone1000
How did this soldier have clearance to access all this stuff? While the soldier should be charged with treason, there is a major problem with the security of our secrets. No one person particularly at this level should never have access to that much stuff. Why weren't the computers secured and encrypted? Lord protect us if our nuclear launch codes are so poorly protected.

Obama has done nothing to stop this hemorrhage of US secrets.

47 posted on 11/28/2010 5:57:06 PM PST by The Great RJ (The Bill of Rights: Another bill members of Congress haven't read.)
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To: PhilosopherStone1000
...but also of video of an Apache helicopter crew gunning down civilians in Baghdad...

What a load of crap. That group of "civilians" had weapons including an RPG. A word of advice. if you hear helicopters, don't stand next to the guy with the RPG.

48 posted on 11/28/2010 5:57:22 PM PST by USNBandit (sarcasm engaged at all times)
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To: PhilosopherStone1000

So, when does the Secretary of State resign?


49 posted on 11/28/2010 5:58:54 PM PST by Kickass Conservative (Obama, Pelosi and Reid, the Axis of Fascism.)
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To: The Great RJ
Obama has done nothing to stop this hemorrhage of US secrets.

That's the bottom line. It's not like he hasn't had plenty of time to deal with this issue.

50 posted on 11/28/2010 5:58:59 PM PST by Cementjungle
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