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Cantor: Republicans will keep some provisions of healthcare law intact (Here we go!!)
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Posted on 11/30/2010 9:56:46 AM PST by roses of sharon

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To: Yet_Again
If you keep the pre-existing conditions clause, how the hell can you not force everyone to buy insurance?

You can't! If you did NOBODY would buy ins until they got sick!

61 posted on 11/30/2010 10:30:06 AM PST by Beagle8U (Free Republic -- One stop shopping ....... It's the Conservative Super WalMart for news .)
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To: libbylu

But Laaaauuurrraaahhhh....
What a metro-male


62 posted on 11/30/2010 10:30:31 AM PST by Senior Chief (Here I am, right where I left myself.)
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To: The Comedian
The Government Party, and everyone else. I say it is time to start over again.
63 posted on 11/30/2010 10:31:19 AM PST by ColdOne
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To: longtermmemmory
I can understand the 26 year old if you think about college and graduate and post graduate school. If we are revitalizing the extended family with multiple generations around the daily dinner table it makes logic.

No it doesn't. Not when the rest of us are footing the bill. My kid is self sufficient and would never dream of mooching off my insurance policy. He's a man and men don't do that. My employees with family coverage saw their premiums increase by about 30% this year because other people's 26 year old parasites are still suckling at the tit!

64 posted on 11/30/2010 10:31:20 AM PST by pgkdan (Protect and Defend America! End the practice of islam on our shores before it's too late!)
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To: opentalk; Candor7

see post 50;

also saying Repubs probably took a poll to see what aspects of obamacare Repub voters wanted to keep.

This news is so bad on so many levels. Entire bill must be scrapped -— ALL OF IT!

The fascists need this bill.


65 posted on 11/30/2010 10:33:38 AM PST by thouworm
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To: Spok
They can allow the 26 year olds to stay on and all the pre existing conditions, as long as they can charge properly from those only wishing that insurance.
I don't want to require others to pay for someone Erse’s premiums.
66 posted on 11/30/2010 10:33:59 AM PST by A CA Guy ( God Bless America, God bless and keep safe our fighting men and women.)
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To: Hotlanta Mike
Someone’s gain is someone else’s loss. If you are covering pre-existing conditions, you are rasining the cost of premiums to members to esnure adequate resources to pay for any eventual outlays associated with ongoing care that will now be covered by insurance.

That is not how it works.

The unisured people with a Pr-ex condition will still end up at the hospital. We still end up paying for their care through higher premiums because the hospitals have to bill private insurance more money to make up for the uninsured...or they get on state medicaid which we pay through higher taxes.

Also many people with pre -ex don't go to the hospital until the condition is out of control=big$$$$. It's cheaper to maintain the condition with medicine and regular visits to their doctor.

I would rather have them pay a premium and be on private insurance than no coverage. We end up paying for it anyway when they have no insurance.

67 posted on 11/30/2010 10:34:53 AM PST by hoyt-clagwell (5:00 AM Gym Crew)
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To: roses of sharon

What part of the constitutionally enumerated powers, delineated and limited government do these ingrates not understand?

The Feds have no authority to regulate healcare in any way shape or form and they need to stop doing it, right here and right now.


68 posted on 11/30/2010 10:34:53 AM PST by dajeeps
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To: All

Cantor is a strategic dumbaszz.

A political Dieppe.


69 posted on 11/30/2010 10:35:00 AM PST by rbmillerjr (I will not, under any circumstances, vote for Mitt Romney....none.)
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To: pgkdan

I see it as “if you are supporting them” and they are NOT self sufficient. If an offsprint has to file a tax return and is claiming themselves as a deduction then obviously it would not apply to them.

That said, I still would rather see the ENTIRE BILL repealed and this individual issues debated one by one.


70 posted on 11/30/2010 10:35:03 AM PST by longtermmemmory (VOTE! http://www.senate.gov and http://www.house.gov)
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To: roses of sharon; ding_dong_daddy_from_dumas; stephenjohnbanker; DoughtyOne; Gilbo_3; NFHale; ...
RE :”Provisions that Republicans will seek to retain include the barring of insurance companies from refusing coverage to patients with a pre-existing condition and allowing young people to stay on their parents’ insurance plans until age 26.

I told you they would do this, as did some others on this ping list. They don't want to repeal anything that is popular.

Now, what happens if they repeal the personal mandate but leave these goodies in? Then Prices go up and more people become uninsured. So then what is plan B or part 2? The answer is that Obama has to get the blame for it or Republicans are doomed.

BTW : Following polls don't always lead to winning elections as voters will blame the leaders for the bad effects of policies that they (voters) supported in polls. Voters in mass always want free stuff where they don't understand the cost (consequences) to themselves.

No, Republicans have not changed for the better, just following the wind. Anyone expect better?

71 posted on 11/30/2010 10:35:33 AM PST by sickoflibs ("It's not the taxes, the redistribution is the federal spending=tax delayed")
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To: RnMomof7

Them vs us.

And they are waiting for more of us to start using Obamacare..therefore they will be unable to repeal it.

They want more of us dependent...more votes for them...Republican and Democrat.

Time to sack DC.


72 posted on 11/30/2010 10:35:43 AM PST by roses of sharon (I can do all things through Him who strengthens me. Philippians 4:13)
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To: sport

I was not referring to the figurative “bury”, but the real meaningful, everlasting, permanent, version of the word.

We all have a choice to become a slave or not. Submit or not. Fight or not.

We have just about exhausted all peaceful means available to us to rise above the tyranny being inflicted upon us by those in government and the idiots who vote for them. Secession will be the last potentially peaceful step we take to free ourselves. If that fails to remain peaceful... Well.. We will just see who walks away from that fight.. IF anyone, walks away from that fight.


73 posted on 11/30/2010 10:36:02 AM PST by myself6
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To: roses of sharon

We gave them new life on November 2nd, I guess they didn’t want it.


74 posted on 11/30/2010 10:36:10 AM PST by Gator113 (Sarah Palin can win, and she will win.)
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To: Beagle8U

There are ways to tweak the language of pre-existing conditions laws to exclude moochers, yet prevent those who fall ill while insured from being excluded from a risk pools and condemned to death in the future to enhance insurance company profit margins.


75 posted on 11/30/2010 10:37:43 AM PST by Yet_Again
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To: roses of sharon

It’s been obvious right along that “repeal and replace” actually means “we can do socialism better than the Democrats.”


76 posted on 11/30/2010 10:38:12 AM PST by EternalVigilance (The care of human life...is the first and only legitimate object of good government -- Jefferson)
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To: sickoflibs
...No, Republicans have not changed for the better, just following the wind. Anyone expect better?

I really don't expect better, but, quite frankly, I deserve better...much better...much, much better...

77 posted on 11/30/2010 10:38:20 AM PST by MaggieCarta (What are we here for but to provide sport for our neighbors, and to laugh at them in our turn?Austen)
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To: goldstategop
The other problem is people will wait until they get sick to buy a policy and then drop it after they get healthy cause they know whenever they get sick they will be insured again.

See my post #67. I agree with what you are saying. The trick is to get the people insured before they get a Pre- ex condition.

78 posted on 11/30/2010 10:39:45 AM PST by hoyt-clagwell (5:00 AM Gym Crew)
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To: roses of sharon

Cantor is one of the wimpiest, pencil necked pricks I’ve ever seen.


79 posted on 11/30/2010 10:39:59 AM PST by pissant (THE Conservative party: www.falconparty.com)
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To: roses of sharon
House Majority Leader-designate Eric Cantor (R-Va.) said Monday that Republicans will not be seeking to completely scrap the healthcare reform law.

So when all those candidate ran on a promise to repeal Obamacare then they were just lying to us?

80 posted on 11/30/2010 10:40:14 AM PST by Non-Sequitur
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