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Say Hello to the World's New Sovereign Nations: Facebook, Google and RIM
law.com, Corporate Counsel ^ | November 24, 2010 | Douglas J. Wood

Posted on 11/30/2010 7:22:56 PM PST by Rabin

Can any government, acting alone, shut down or meaningfully regulate these Internet giants? Isn't it inevitable that they will soon be immune from control by any single sovereignty? The unified power of Facebook's population, Google's knowledge base, and RIM's communications platform leads to no other conclusion.


TOPICS: Culture/Society; Government; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: facebook; google; rim; wikileaks
Resistance Is futile. "Global treaties among both traditional and virtual nations. Perhaps the U.N. needs to meet the virtual world. But continued unilateral action by the U.S., the EU, China, or any other nation or group of nations is not just ineffective, it's suicidal."

Mmmm, aaa ya sure.

Rab

1 posted on 11/30/2010 7:23:02 PM PST by Rabin
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To: Rabin

Do any of them have an army?


2 posted on 11/30/2010 7:24:48 PM PST by advance_copy (Stand for life or nothing at all)
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To: Rabin

>> Can any government, acting alone, shut down or meaningfully regulate these Internet giants?

I don’t know, but government intervention is not required to shut them down.

They are businesses.

To shut them down, it’s sufficient that the masses simply stop patronizing them.


3 posted on 11/30/2010 7:27:14 PM PST by Nervous Tick (Trust in God, but row away from the rocks!)
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To: Rabin

You have meddled with the primal forces of nature, Mr. Beale, and I won’t have it. You are an old man who thinks in terms of nations and peoples. There are no nations; there are no peoples. There are no Russians. There are no Arabs. There is no third world. There is no west. There is only one holistic system of systems; one vast interwoven, interacting, multivariate multinational dominion of dollars. Petrodollars, electrodollars, reichmarks, rubles, rin, pounds and shekels.

It is the international system of currency that determines the totality of life on this planet. That is the natural order of things today. That is the atomic, subatomic and galactic structure of things today. It is the international system of currency that determines the totality of life on this planet. That is the natural order of things. You have meddled with the primal forces of nature, and you will atone!

Am I getting through to you, Mr. Beale? You get up on your little twenty-one inch screen and howl about America and Democracy. There is no America. There is no democracy. There is only IBM and ITT and AT&T and Dupont, Dow, Union Carbide and Exxon. Those are the nations of the world today.

What do you think the Russians talk about in their councils of state? Karl Marx? They pull out their linear programming charts, statistical decision theories, and minimax solutions and compute the price-cost probabilities of their transactions and investments just like we do.

We no longer live in a world of nations and ideologies, Mr. Beale. The world is a college of corporations inexorably determined by the immutable by-laws of business. The world is a business, Mr. Beale! It has been since man crawled out of the slime. And our children will live to see that perfect world in which there is no war or famine, oppression or brutality.

One vast and ecumenical holding company for whom all men will work to serve a common profit and in which all men will own a share of stock, all necessities provided, all anxieties tranquilized, all boredom amused. And I have chosen you to preach this evangel. - Arthur Jensen (Network - 1976)


4 posted on 11/30/2010 7:29:38 PM PST by dfwgator (Congratulations to Josh Hamilton - AL MVP)
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To: Nervous Tick

With Google that would almost require to stop patronizing the Internet given that almost all of their revenue comes from PPC advertisements on other people’s web pages and servers advertising yet other people’s companies.

At it’s heart Google is an advertisement firm using their search engine to drive placement of those adverts.


5 posted on 11/30/2010 7:34:23 PM PST by Domandred (Fdisk, format, and reinstall the entire .gov system.)
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To: Domandred

>> At it’s heart Google is an advertisement firm

Of course it is. Nevertheless, it’s a business, not a sovereign country. Just say no! And if you really believe they “own” the WWW, then I guess you *will* have to stop using the ‘net to strangle them. I don’t believe that myself, but YMMV.

I really don’t think Google is either evil or unstoppable. The bigger they are, the harder they fall.

When they release GoogleArmy, then I’ll worry.

Meanwhile, use Bing, a rather good search engine developed by a small startup firm called Microsoft Corporation. They could use your support as they struggle to establish themselves in a space dominated by Google. :-)


6 posted on 11/30/2010 7:42:27 PM PST by Nervous Tick (Trust in God, but row away from the rocks!)
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To: Rabin

Friendship. Sex. Morality. Fatherhood. Insight. Lifetime.

Jealousy. Loneliness. Rebellion. Rape. Dejection. Death.

Appreciation. Imagination. Understanding. Foundation. Action. Creation.

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7 posted on 11/30/2010 7:57:44 PM PST by bvw (home)
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To: bvw

I’d like to buy a clue for $50, Vanna.

(i.e. — say WHAT?)


8 posted on 11/30/2010 8:00:54 PM PST by Nervous Tick (Trust in God, but row away from the rocks!)
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To: Nervous Tick

Gam zeh ya’avor.


9 posted on 11/30/2010 8:06:05 PM PST by bvw
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To: bvw

Roger.


10 posted on 11/30/2010 8:17:23 PM PST by Nervous Tick (Trust in God, but row away from the rocks!)
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To: Nervous Tick
To shut them down, it’s sufficient that the masses simply stop patronizing them.

That, or a few well placed asteroid strikes ... it could happen!

11 posted on 11/30/2010 8:27:56 PM PST by dr_lew
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To: Nervous Tick
I really don’t think Google is either evil or unstoppable. The bigger they are, the harder they fall.

Forthwith upright he rears from off the Pool
His mighty Stature; on each hand the flames
Drivn backward slope thir pointing spires, and rowld
In billows, leave i'th' midst a horrid Vale.
Then with expanded wings he stears his flight
Aloft, incumbent on the dusky Air
That felt unusual weight, till on dry Land
He lights, if it were Land that ever burn'd
With solid, as the Lake with liquid fire;

12 posted on 11/30/2010 8:43:50 PM PST by dr_lew
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To: Domandred

Dom:
“At it’s heart Google is an advertisement firm using their search engine to drive placement of those adverts.”

D, “At its heart” is sorta flabby. At its inception?? Ok. All long ago and far away. So can “they” run a mok a bit? Mmm, Step, Step,

A non partisan world authority. Salivation..
Coming to a theater near you, Rab thinks.


13 posted on 11/30/2010 8:52:27 PM PST by Rabin
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To: Rabin

One script kiddy hacker/virus maker or EMP strike away from global reset button.

Paradigm shift happens. Those global giants got to the top by employing disruptive technology, and will fall by it as well, when the next, next “insanely great” thing comes along.


14 posted on 11/30/2010 9:10:37 PM PST by anymouse (God didn't write this sitcom we call life, he's just the critic.)
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