THE REAL PENTAGON POLL: 91% OF SERVICE MEMBERS REJECT HOMOSEXUAL LEADERS - 1 IN 4 WOULD QUIT

AIPNews.com ^ | Dec. 1, 2010 | Gordon James Klingenschmitt

[ConjunctionJunction]

You forgot discrimination lawsuits, EO complaints, G&L observances, perhaps promotion quotas...

[Mr. Silverback]

Funny...every time a lib whines about this issue thay talk about all the valuable people we’re losing because of DADT,like the Arab language analysts who chose their crotches over their country and got kicked out.

[Mr. Silverback]

Shep is as hard to watch as Alan Colmes ever was.

[verity]

Uniform Code of Military Justice (UCMJ)

ART. 125. SODOMY

(a) Any person subject to this chapter who engages in unnatural carnal copulation with another person of the same or opposite sex or with an animal is guilty of sodomy. Penetration , however slight, is sufficient to complete the offense.

(b) Any person found guilty of sodomy shall be punished as a court-martial may direct.

Would repeal of DADT nullify this punitive article? There seems to be difference between stating one's sexual preference and being observed demonstrating that difference.

[OldDeckHand]

"Would repeal of DADT nullify this punitive article? "

The short answer is no. However, if DADT is repealed, the lifespan of Art. 125 is probably not very long. If the appellate courts affirm the recent prohibition against DADT, then I'd say Art. 125 would be struck within a few months.

You might be surprised that very few (virtually none) separations under DADT include this particular specification. Almost always, it's used against someone who is engaged in heterosexual relations, albeit not always consensual relations.

[Arrowhead1952]

I know one thing, if DADT is repealed, it will hasten my decision to retire after 38+ years.

[verity]

As always, I appreciate your insight.

[ConjunctionJunction]

38+ years???

[Arrowhead1952]

Yep, started in 1972.

[IrishCatholic]

I ran Norton right after posting this and went to bed. My computer had a full scan three days ago. Normally it finds one or two tracking cookies and that’s it. This morning it showed 66 resolved problems.

Who runs the Defense Department computers? Porn companies? I probably will have to find a source that filters out the bugs to read the original documents.

[ConjunctionJunction]

Just checked your profile. National Guard. Thank you for your service!

BTW: I miss Texas! :D

[trisham]

One of the greatest unspoken but known to all parts of being a member of the military is the knowingness of that strong tie of MANLY STRENGH and HONOR.

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Agreed. Unfortunately, even tragically, those words today are not considered acceptable by a growing segment of our society.

[Arrowhead1952]

See FReepmail in a few.

[Grunthor]

(One half million troops will QUIT the service early, destroying our national security.)

Isn’t that the plan?

[itsahoot]

My guess is the Pentagon Brass - political generals

My guess, many of them are queer themselves.

[cherry]

I don't hate gay men or gay women, and I'm sure they have contributed in some good ways....but you can not allow heterosexual men to live with, bathe with, sleep in the same room with, etc with FEMALES... and NOT expect consequences......

so why do they think openly gay men won't be as disasterous to heterosexual men?.....they pursue young men, period...they oogle young men... the male creature is by nature whether gay or straight, constantly seeking sexual fulfillment ...IT'S WHAT THEY DO...and its natural ..

what a disaster...I wouldn't have my kid join a group that allowed such blatant danger...

[cherry]

I have to add that I feel sorry for young men these days....men need to have time to be with other men in MASCULINE ways, to bond, and the services have played a big part in that development..Political correctiness is destroying that opportunity. ...now its all one big open attack on their sexuality, their Christianity, their values, their morals....

[lwd]

Official Pentagon DADT Report (PDF)

The questions are clearly tilted in one direction.

[Yosemitest]

This too shall come to pass.

Where did I read (?)

And their houses shall be turned unto others, with their fields and wives together:
for I will stretch out my hand upon the inhabitants of the land,
saith the LORD.
For from the least of them even unto the greatest of them
every one is given to covetousness;
and from the prophet even unto the priest
every one dealeth falsely.
They have healed also the hurt of the daughter of my people slightly, saying,
Peace, peace;
when there is no peace.
Were they ashamed when they had committed abomination?
nay, they were not at all ashamed,
neither could they blush:
therefore they shall fall among them that fall:
at the time that I visit them they shall be cast down,
saith the LORD.
Thus saith the LORD,
Stand ye in the ways, and see,
and ask for the old paths,
where is the good way,
and walk therein,
and ye shall find rest for your souls.
But they said,
We will not walk therein.
Also I set watchmen over you, saying,
Hearken to the sound of the trumpet.
But they said,
We will not hearken.
Therefore hear, ye nations, and know,
O congregation, what is among them.
Hear, O earth:
behold, I will bring evil upon this people, even the fruit of their thoughts,
because they have not hearkened unto my words, nor to my law, but rejected it.
To what purpose cometh there to me incense from Sheba, and the sweet cane from a far country?
your burnt offerings are not acceptable, nor your sacrifices sweet unto me.


Therefore thus saith the LORD,
Behold, I will lay stumblingblocks before this people,
and the fathers and the sons together shall fall upon them;
the neighbour and his friend shall perish.

And why don't they believe God?

Our Heavenly Father told us
why homosexuals are untrustable (God gave them over to a reprobate mind) ,

and, how to correct the homosexual problem.

This is what you get, when you allow homosexuals in the military,

or in any position of responsibility.

[warsaw44]

I'm not sure I understand: where did this poll come from and where did the poll come from that states everyone in the military thinks repeal is a good idea?

Has anyone even considered what will happen when gay service men and women are not promoted? Or when a plum assignment they desire does not materialize? They'll blame it on ‘ homophobia ‘, there will be hearings, the press will champion more than a few cases and the careers of officers involved with such cases will be finished.

Officers with gays in their command will be sorely tempted not be rate them honestly for fear of retaliation. Same damned thing happened in the case of Major Hassan. Everyone knew the man was a true thread but what was being done about it? No one dared to stand up as they'd be branded anti-muslim and they'd have to kiss their career goodbye. It was pass the buck with Hassan and it sure as hell will be pass the buck with any half wit homosexual in the service.

I'm not even going to get into gay officers giving their boyfriends promotions, sexual harassment by gay officers of enlisted men and on and on it goes.