Posted on 11/30/2010 11:59:29 PM PST by Cementjungle
Our local evening news reported that the WikiLeaks site is being hosted on Amazon's "hack-proof" servers right here in Washington.
I did a traceroute to verify this, and sure enough... that's where cablegate.wikileaks.org is being hosted.
I find this apalling on a number of levels.
What do other freepers think an American company aiding in the espionage against our nation?
What would we have done with a U.S. company aiding Germany in WW2?
The company could (rightly) be subject to government seizure. This would give Obama another toy.
Amazon and Obama, two peas in a pod.
The news program showed a woman, a mom of two soldiers in Afghanistan, and she said it was like Amazon was stabbing her sons/soldiers in the back.
WikiLeaks is co-hosted (mirrored) on multiple servers across multiple nations and continents. Shutting down one does nothing
Plus hosting fees are minimal or gratis from Julian Assange’s fellow anarchists. Hosting fees and hosting resources used are low for spitting out text which is what WikiLeaks does. Text is nothing compared to photos and movies.
I don’t mind if Assange is offed along with his other top wiki-leak people but the real blame lies with us for allowing millions of Americans to access this information. There was no “need to know” exclusion applied. This mega-leak was bound to happen sooner or later
i’m not so sure that what has been released could be technically called espionage as the poster of this thread claims. I’m of the opinion as you are Cementjungle. I’m not seeing much outrage from obokeydokey in the WH but more aimed at taking down Hilary as Sec of State.
Well, Amazon is helping a person who is trying to damage our country. In my mind, that makes Amazon one of the bad guys, and I hope a lot of other people see it that way as well.
Yep. It's a point that is unfortunately lost on too many. It's actually rather remarkable this hasn't happened before now.
Does Amazon own that server or does it belong to Level 3?
Wikileaks was under a denial of service attack, so had to move their hosting. So far, I haven’t heard any speculation about who might be responsible for the attack. I think the Level 3 servier may be some kind of backup that Amazon uses, but I don’t think it’s their primary.
http://www.cqcounter.com/traceroute/?query=72.21.222.161
I quit buying from Amazon when they wouldn’t pull the how to manual for pedophiles off. I used to buy so much stuff from them. Liberals gone wild I guess. Who needs um?
Amazon described it a “hack-proof” server of their own.
Probably part of the Amazon CloudFront web service.
If you do a traceroute, you’ll see what I mean.
Amazon’s spokesperson had “no comment”.
It took a deranged homo to do it for fame and notoriety. That's what Mr. Lady Gaga got out of it.
You know how Great Britain was plagued by homo spies and double agents during WW2. Same thing here. Sorry all you gays out there but you all have a crazy streak which the best most stable ones keep suppressed. Your unnatural anal sex deranges your sensitive nerve endings, which deranges your nervous system up through your spinal cord all the way up to your brains.
In the best of circumstances a celibate priesthood took in such people and kept them away from such mischief.
BTTT
Many law enforcement friends of mine have told me that the most dangerous calls they go on are domestic violence calls involving homosexuals, and especially lesbians. They are, apparently, the meanest, nastiest and downright craziest calls they take.
I have personally overseen the separation of dozens and dozens of homosexuals from service (after the implementation of DADT). Quite a few of those separations stem directly from "domestic" disturbances between two gay uniformed service members, or one service member and their gay lover. They're a violent bunch, crazy-ass bunch.
“Many law enforcement friends of mine have told me that the most dangerous calls they go on are domestic violence calls involving homosexuals, and especially lesbians. They are, apparently, the meanest, nastiest and downright craziest calls they take.”
No, you’re kidding. You’re putting me on. Gays aren’t like that. They’re just nice people who do fashion design and hairstyling. In fact, they’re more wholesome than your grandparents.
“I have personally overseen the separation of dozens and dozens of homosexuals from service (after the implementation of DADT). Quite a few of those separations stem directly from “domestic” disturbances between two gay uniformed service members, or one service member and their gay lover. They’re a violent bunch, crazy-ass bunch.”
There is a very good reason why in olden times, gays were not permitted in the military, police, or intelligence services. Because they’re unstable and easy to bribe, blackmail, or coerce.
20-30 years ago in North East media markets there used to be highlighting of sensational gay on gay murders. It made for good titillating reading and boosted circulation. Due to growing gay influence you don't see such reporting the way you used to
I have personally overseen the separation of dozens and dozens of homosexuals from service (after the implementation of DADT). Quite a few of those separations stem directly from "domestic" disturbances between two gay uniformed service members, or one service member and their gay lover. They're a violent bunch, crazy-ass bunch.
Fueled by drugs and alcohol. Which goes on everywhere at night but gets more freaky w the gays
According to a legal expert on CNN, you can’t charge Assange with the Espionage Act because there are currently too many holes in it. The law was put in place in 1917 and the Supreme Court made it into swiss cheese with all their rulings expanding the first amendment throughout the 20th century. Plus the law is out of date. Computers didnt exist back then.
Now the person who leaked the information to Assange could possibly face prosecution (believed to be Bradley Manning). But there could be problems there as well.
Technically there is no law on the books that says if a pile of confidential documents lands in your lap, that you can’t create a website and publish those things. 1) you were never put in charge of protecting that data. And 2) you did not physically extract the data.
My sentiments exactly. I’ve spent my last dime with Amazon, too bad this didn’t come to light before I started Christmas shopping. I am including a note in my Christmas cards however, advising my friends to avoid any contact with the traitors at Amazon.
I’m sure that, given their size, Amazon will not even notice my protest, but it will make me feel a lot better. Care to join me Freepers?
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