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To: AndyJackson
What people miss, is that governments spy on each other all the time. That a Private in the US military would have access to this info, means that it would be quite easy for a foreign govt that really wanted the info, to get it.

Thus the Wikileaks is not about other govts finding out what we are doing; it is that the people (not the elites) are considered by the elites to have absolutely no right to this information, and in fact the elites consider it right and proper that the rest of us be kept entirely in the dark.

My view, anyways...

2 posted on 12/05/2010 7:32:06 AM PST by ikka
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To: ikka
My view, anyways...

Well put. Exactly how I see it, as well.

The peasants are not smart enough to be privy to the shenanigans of the ruling class.

5 posted on 12/05/2010 7:37:12 AM PST by E. Pluribus Unum (DEFCON I ALERT: The federal cancer has metastasized. All personnel report to their battle stations.)
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To: ikka

What people miss, is that governments spy on each other all the time. That a Private in the US military would have access to this info, means that it would be quite easy for a foreign govt that really wanted the info, to get it.

Thus the Wikileaks is not about other govts finding out what we are doing; it is that the people (not the elites) are considered by the elites to have absolutely no right to this information, and in fact the elites consider it right and proper that the rest of us be kept entirely in the dark.

My view, anyways


Good points....the big stink being raised is by the elitists because info that is usually reserved only for them is now public domain

Funny that, people who are claiming to be “conservative”, are getting the most upset over leaks that have been, for the most part, been embarassing for Obama and other leftists/Globalists


8 posted on 12/05/2010 7:41:10 AM PST by UCFRoadWarrior (Isolationism and Protectionism sure beat Globalism and Communism)
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To: ikka
Thus the Wikileaks is not about other govts finding out what we are doing; it is that the people (not the elites) are considered by the elites to have absolutely no right to this information, and in fact the elites consider it right and proper that the rest of us be kept entirely in the dark.

People unsophisticated in the ways of the world would no doubt be unable to appreciate the subtleties of high level diplomacy. /sarc.

15 posted on 12/05/2010 7:55:23 AM PST by oldbrowser (Blaming the prince of fools shouldn't blind anyone to the vast confederacy of fools that elected him)
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To: ikka; ASA Vet; BIGLOOK; Liz; Ernest_at_the_Beach; STARWISE

Your post has two valid points:

1. ‘What people miss, is that governments spy on each other all the time. That a Private in the US military would have access to this info, means that it would be quite easy for a foreign govt that really wanted the info, to get it.’

Inproper vetting of any individual from POTUS to a private and allowing them access to restricted data is a sympton of insanity.

2. ‘Thus the Wikileaks is not about other govts finding out what we are doing; it is that the people (not the elites) are considered by the elites to have absolutely no right to this information, and in fact the elites consider it right and proper that the rest of us be kept entirely in the dark.’

AMC had a fascinating show for a few weeks this year, “Rubicon”. It supposedly was fiction about an super secret intel analysis agency outside of the government that impacted the actions of CIA, NSA, our military and our nation. Apparently, a handful of Super rich elites set up global crisis where they could buy stock and other resources or sell short and make incredible sums of money with their inside/prior knowledge. This small group of insider elites were in the “know” while the rest of us where like mushrooms.

Rubicon was aburptly cancelled this November inspite of having a growing audience and an apparent good base of advertisers. Some fans have wondered if the Rubicon shows were too close to home with the Wiki Leaks oozing out.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rubicon_(tv_series)


16 posted on 12/05/2010 7:57:49 AM PST by Grampa Dave (ILLEGAL IMMIGRATION IS DESTROYING AMERICA-LOOK AT WHAT IT DID TO THE WHITE HOUSE!)
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To: ikka; ASA Vet; BIGLOOK; Liz; Ernest_at_the_Beach; STARWISE

Your post has two valid points:

1. ‘What people miss, is that governments spy on each other all the time. That a Private in the US military would have access to this info, means that it would be quite easy for a foreign govt that really wanted the info, to get it.’

Inproper vetting of any individual from POTUS to a private and allowing them access to restricted data is a sympton of insanity.

2. ‘Thus the Wikileaks is not about other govts finding out what we are doing; it is that the people (not the elites) are considered by the elites to have absolutely no right to this information, and in fact the elites consider it right and proper that the rest of us be kept entirely in the dark.’

AMC had a fascinating show for a few weeks this year, “Rubicon”. It supposedly was fiction about an super secret intel analysis agency outside of the government that impacted the actions of CIA, NSA, our military and our nation. Apparently, a handful of Super rich elites set up global crisis where they could buy stock and other resources or sell short and make incredible sums of money with their inside/prior knowledge. This small group of insider elites were in the “know” while the rest of us where like mushrooms.

Rubicon was aburptly cancelled this November inspite of having a growing audience and an apparent good base of advertisers. Some fans have wondered if the Rubicon shows were too close to home with the Wiki Leaks oozing out.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rubicon_(tv_series)


19 posted on 12/05/2010 7:59:18 AM PST by Grampa Dave (ILLEGAL IMMIGRATION IS DESTROYING AMERICA-LOOK AT WHAT IT DID TO THE WHITE HOUSE!)
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To: ikka
What people miss, is that governments spy on each other all the time. That a Private in the US military would have access to this info, means that it would be quite easy for a foreign govt that really wanted the info, to get it.

I would be surprised if they hadn't already gotten it.

27 posted on 12/05/2010 8:43:59 AM PST by Paleo Conservative
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