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Author claims we're in the grip of a mini ice age
The Sunday Sun ^ | Dec 5 2010 | Mike Kelly

Posted on 12/07/2010 10:58:33 AM PST by Ernest_at_the_Beach

AFTER nearly two weeks of snow and sub zero temperatures rivaling those of Siberia, the old joke about global warming being a good thing has had a new lease of life. So what has happened to doom-laden predictions of the world heating up as glaciers melt? Mike Kelly reports.

A satellite image of the UK taken during last year's harsh winter

FIRST the good news. These bitter winters aren’t going to last forever. The bad news is that they will go on for the next 30 years as we have entered a mini ice age.

So says author Gavin Cooke in his book Frozen Britain. He began writing it in 2008 and it was published last year when experts were scratching their heads at the cause of the bitter winter of 2009/10 which brought England to a standstill. Some said it was a one-off event, with experts predicting snowfall becoming increasingly rare.

Now, 12 months on, the current sub zero spell makes last year look just a bit chilly. Just like kids enjoying ‘snow days’ off school, Gavin ought to be delighted with the cold snap. After all, he can justifiably say ‘I told you so’. But he’s as glum as the rest of us.

“I’m getting sick of it myself,” he said.

When Gavin, 48, of Monkseaton, North Tyneside, began writing the book the acclaimed documentary ‘An Inconvenient Truth’ by former US Vice President Al Gore about global warming, was still fresh in the memory.

It detailed how carbon emissions were contributing towards the melting of the polar ice caps causing the world to heat up.


(Excerpt) Read more at sundaysun.co.uk ...


TOPICS: Extended News; Foreign Affairs; News/Current Events; United Kingdom
KEYWORDS: agw; algore; aninconvenienttruth; carbon; catastrophism; climatechange; fraud; globalcooling; globalwarming; globalwarminghoax; godsgravesglyphs; gorebullwarming; hoax; iceage; miniiceage; scam
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1 posted on 12/07/2010 10:58:38 AM PST by Ernest_at_the_Beach
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach

OK, let’s say it’s true (and it very well could be) that we are in a brief cooling period.

God help our children and grandchildren when we begin to come out of it and the very same interests start shrieking about AGW, and they have genuine warming data to ‘prove’ it. It won’t be AGW, but they’ll be sanctimonious climate harpies for sure.


2 posted on 12/07/2010 11:02:18 AM PST by Blueflag (Res ipsa loquitur)
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To: Blueflag
Popular Science magazine of the 1980s had articles about the coming min-ice age;the Maunder minimum of the geologically recent sunspot cycle was mentioned.We have had an extended period of low sunspots for several years.

The alarmists are like the blind Indian men examining an elephant,one said it was like a tree after feeling the leg,another said it was like a snake after feeling the trunk, another .....

3 posted on 12/07/2010 11:07:38 AM PST by hoosierham (Waddaya mean Freedom isn't free ?;will you take a credit card?)
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To: Blueflag; SouthTexas; NormsRevenge; steelyourfaith; Grampa Dave; SierraWasp; tubebender; ...
Yes,...it is becoming clear that what is believed to be true can be shaped by the mass media and governments selective funding of research activities.

Thanks to SouthTexas for pointing out this article.

4 posted on 12/07/2010 11:08:54 AM PST by Ernest_at_the_Beach ( Support Geert Wilders)
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach

Well, yeah. Global warming, er, I mean, “climate change.” Yeah, that’s it, climate change! Change is bad!


5 posted on 12/07/2010 11:09:04 AM PST by Larry Lucido
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To: Blueflag

“OK, let’s say it’s true ... “

On a similar note, I am really, really sick and tired of any weather that is not “normal” being the fore shadowing of some cataclysmic climatic shift.

It’s weather, and if the climate does change, we can’t do anything but adapt or die.


6 posted on 12/07/2010 11:10:10 AM PST by brownsfan (D - swift death of the republic, R - lingering death for the republic.)
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To: Blueflag

The premise of global climate change is that the earth’s temperatures have been going up/down over the past 150 years because of man’s move to industrialization (and decades of now dormant atomic bomb testing).

They cannot predict whether those temperatures are going radically UPWARDS or DOWNWARDS, but which ever way they are going, it “absolutely” is man’s fault.

The conclusion that they reach is (A) not only do we not know which way man is sending temperatures, but (B) man MUST make changes to the climate to counteract all of his eco-sins. Sort of like a back seat driver telling you that you are headed the wrong way but won’t tell you if you need to be heading North, South, East, or West. Just “whatever course you are on is WRONG and you have to DO SOMETHING!”. Not so if you are merely in a parking lot.

The demands of Gaia cult are too draconian with too much Marxist redistribution to third world dictatorships (with ample skimming by Pope Al Gore and his connected interests).

Try them for their criminal conspiracy and make all nations of this world PRODUCTIVE instead of wasting resources, energy, and finances on BULLSTALIN.


7 posted on 12/07/2010 11:10:15 AM PST by a fool in paradise (The establishment clause isn't just against my OWN government establishing state religion in America)
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To: All
Related thread:

Britain is Freezing to Death; Mounting Death Toll in Europe; NYT Changes Headlines to “Extremes”

8 posted on 12/07/2010 11:12:07 AM PST by Ernest_at_the_Beach ( Support Geert Wilders)
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach
April 1977:

Warming or cooling, it's a catastrophe, it's caused by the West, and the answer is more government intrusion into our lives.

9 posted on 12/07/2010 11:12:15 AM PST by Pollster1 (Natural born citizen of the USA, with the birth certificate to prove it)
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To: brownsfan

Yes, to wrap up my post above, not only do they say that the earth’s temperature is “wrong”, they seem to believe that there is ONE optimal climate for everyone in the world although some are going to be warmer than others and some are going to be colder.

Day going to night and seasonal changes are very basic examples of “climate change” that occur over regular periodicity.

But some educrat thinks (s)he knows what the global thermostat SHOULD be set at (as if man can even change it).


10 posted on 12/07/2010 11:12:35 AM PST by a fool in paradise (The establishment clause isn't just against my OWN government establishing state religion in America)
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To: a fool in paradise

The micro climate around urban areas is definitely subject to impact by humans and our love of concrete, asphalt, and air conditioning (heat exchange) in the summer time, but the planetary climate? The idea that we, who amount to less than a thin dusting of bacteria on a basketball, can affect a climate powered by a star one million times the mass of our home world should be ludicrous to anyone other than a raving imbecile like Albert Gore, Jr.


11 posted on 12/07/2010 11:19:38 AM PST by katana (Not that there's anything wrong with that)
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To: katana

They believe that a butterfly in asia affects the desert winds in the Sahara.

They likewise would have to conjecture that a moth darting in front of a candle can cause the candle to grow brighter.


12 posted on 12/07/2010 11:22:46 AM PST by a fool in paradise (The establishment clause isn't just against my OWN government establishing state religion in America)
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach

Maybe the Climate Alarmists will finally stop blithering for awhile!


13 posted on 12/07/2010 11:26:35 AM PST by PATRIOT1876 (The only crimes that are 100% preventable are crimes committed by illegal aliens)
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach; Whenifhow; TenthAmendmentChampion; Clive; scripter; Darnright; WL-law; ...
 


Beam me to Planet Gore !

14 posted on 12/07/2010 11:28:11 AM PST by steelyourfaith (ObamaCare Death Panels: a Final Solution to the looming Social Security crisis ?)
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach

According to Scientists at the University of Colorado, Gulf loop current and Gulf Stream (which warms North America and Europe) has stopped functioning because of the BP Oil Spill resulting in a coming Ice Age.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vXUifNpnpfQ


15 posted on 12/07/2010 11:28:20 AM PST by FS11
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach

Its going to keep getting cooler, but to call it an ice age is silly.

The cause of the ice age was the extreme warm oceans remaining immediately after the flood, which resulted in continuous heavy precipitation and those conditions will never occur again.


16 posted on 12/07/2010 11:29:24 AM PST by editor-surveyor (Obamacare is America's kristallnacht !!)
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To: hoosierham
Fortunately, the Sun has once again become active, very active. I'm looking forward to warmer winters and an increased carbon dioxide level so plants grow better making more food for all.

C'mon Sun!

17 posted on 12/07/2010 11:31:24 AM PST by Aevery_Freeman (Fear God and Government - especially when one tries to become the other!)
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach

There is another study saying that the BP oil spill broke the loop current that warms the Atlantic.

These climate truthers just can’t settle on which calamity is worse.


18 posted on 12/07/2010 11:33:02 AM PST by IamConservative (Never kick a fresh turd on a hot day... Truman)
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach
We are in a mini-ice age. We should come out of it around March, 2011.
19 posted on 12/07/2010 11:33:21 AM PST by InvisibleChurch (Stimulus ~ Response / "...and that's why the color yellow makes me sad, I think.")
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To: FS11

Throw a few UofC scientists into the Gulf to appease Gaia.


20 posted on 12/07/2010 11:35:33 AM PST by a fool in paradise (The establishment clause isn't just against my OWN government establishing state religion in America)
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach
He is quick to admit that he hasn’t got the scientific background of those who have spent a lifetime studying climate change.

And like the rube he is, he looked at where the data took him without any government funding him.

He better learn how to do sloppy computer models that are consistently wrong so he can get on the government grant train.

21 posted on 12/07/2010 11:38:45 AM PST by Brett66 (Where government advances, and it advances relentlessly , freedom is imperiled -Janice Rogers Brown)
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To: Pollster1

I will always remember the Blizzard of 1977. I grew up in Orchard Park, NY(south of Buffalo). We had 3-4 feet of snow and 75 mph winds. Schools were closed for a week. I was 14 at the time. I remember talk of the “coming ice age”. My high school Earth Science teacher said it was all BS because the glaciers were continuing to melt and receed.

I also remember that spring we had an ice storm that we lost power for week and school was closed again for another week. All of the neighborhood kids hung out at the house at the end of the road because they were on a different line and had electricity.

The downside was I think I was in school that year until almost July.


22 posted on 12/07/2010 11:38:56 AM PST by woodbutcher1963
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach
Gen 8:22 While the earth remaineth, seedtime and harvest, and cold and heat, and summer and winter, and day and night shall not cease.

The Time is coming though, but man won't be the cause.

Rev 16:8 And the fourth angel poured out his vial upon the sun; and power was given unto him to scorch men with fire. Rev 16:9 And men were scorched with great heat, and blasphemed the name of God, which hath power over these plagues: and they repented not to give him glory.

23 posted on 12/07/2010 11:50:51 AM PST by DannyTN
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach

My husband has told me for years that as long as our poles are ice-covered, we are still in an ice age. He is kinda like living with Spock, so I tend to believe him.


24 posted on 12/07/2010 11:51:02 AM PST by LibertarianLiz
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To: a fool in paradise
But some educrat thinks (s)he knows what the global thermostat SHOULD be set at

And, yet, I don't recall any of the alarmists telling us just what the optimal temperature is. So, what is it. They say we are warming, from what? What is the best temperature for the Earth to be? Anyone?

25 posted on 12/07/2010 11:54:41 AM PST by LibertarianLiz
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To: PATRIOT1876
No,...they are now changing to ocean acidification...as the the alarm cause and the need for controlling man's impact on the planet.
26 posted on 12/07/2010 12:06:46 PM PST by Ernest_at_the_Beach ( Support Geert Wilders)
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To: LibertarianLiz

Good questions?

It would be good to have more posts of scientific reports and fewer juveniles joking about very serious matters.

We can fix most of the BO legislative disasters and BO’s WikiLeaks, but frankly I have not seen anyone with solutions for BO’s Gulf Oil Spill Disaster.


27 posted on 12/07/2010 12:09:20 PM PST by FS11
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To: editor-surveyor
Where do we get that ?

I thought there were cycles to the iceages.

28 posted on 12/07/2010 12:09:20 PM PST by Ernest_at_the_Beach ( Support Geert Wilders)
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To: Aevery_Freeman
"Fortunately, the Sun has once again become active, very active"

What...with THREE sunspots up today....

....and just over 100 so far this year?

Get yr wool undies on

29 posted on 12/07/2010 12:16:44 PM PST by spokeshave (Islamics and Democrats unite to cut off Adam Smith's invisible hand)
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To: Aevery_Freeman
"Fortunately, the Sun has once again become active, very active"

What...with THREE sunspots up today....

....and just over 100 so far this year?

Get yr wool undies on

30 posted on 12/07/2010 12:16:51 PM PST by spokeshave (Islamics and Democrats unite to cut off Adam Smith's invisible hand)
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To: spokeshave

Two pairs of everything.


31 posted on 12/07/2010 12:18:46 PM PST by spokeshave (Islamics and Democrats unite to cut off Adam Smith's invisible hand)
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach
Not by Fire But by Ice by Robert Felix. He makes a good case for an Ice Age that could start at any time.
32 posted on 12/07/2010 12:21:00 PM PST by MissMagnolia (Obad. 1:15: As you have done, it will be done to you; your deeds will return upon your own head.)
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach

Oh! A mini ice age! I’m overjoyed and delighted. I collect miniatures, so I’m looking forward to the mini glaciers, mini mammoths, mini saber-tooth tigers, mini cave men, their teensy eensy little children, and all their tiny tools and cave paintings.

I’m so excited!


33 posted on 12/07/2010 12:45:42 PM PST by TheOldLady (The only way to run our country is conservatively.)
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To: PATRIOT1876
There may be hope...see this thread I just started:

Monckton’s Mexican Missive #2

34 posted on 12/07/2010 12:46:36 PM PST by Ernest_at_the_Beach ( Support Geert Wilders)
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To: TheOldLady

LOL!


35 posted on 12/07/2010 12:48:41 PM PST by Ernest_at_the_Beach ( Support Geert Wilders)
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To: All

To fight this grave threat to humanity drastic action is required - we must massively boost carbon emissions. The government should buy everyone a SUV - we can call it the HUMMERS FOR ALL ACT.


36 posted on 12/07/2010 1:12:37 PM PST by DHerion (Hummers for All)
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To: Blueflag
The principal problem with cooling like this is food production. Short growing seasons with insufficient heat to develop the harvestable crops.
37 posted on 12/07/2010 1:18:17 PM PST by Myrddin
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Sounds good...i like the hummers.


38 posted on 12/07/2010 1:38:03 PM PST by Ernest_at_the_Beach ( Support Geert Wilders)
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach

Bush’s fault


39 posted on 12/07/2010 1:43:17 PM PST by nitzy (A just law does not punish virtue nor reward vice.)
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To: SouthTexas

Suck Up...


40 posted on 12/07/2010 1:46:04 PM PST by tubebender (If you can not read, this thread will tell you how to get help)
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To: Myrddin

Also less rain.


41 posted on 12/07/2010 1:55:25 PM PST by Blueflag (Res ipsa loquitur)
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To: LibertarianLiz
What is the best temperature for the Earth to be? Anyone? :

I'll ask your husband the first time I see him >:<(

42 posted on 12/07/2010 1:56:11 PM PST by tubebender (If you can not read, this thread will tell you how to get help)
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To: a fool in paradise
" They cannot predict whether those temperatures are going radically UPWARDS or DOWNWARDS, but which ever way they are going, it “absolutely” is man’s fault. "

Another way of putting it, in the liberal/ecofreaks mind, " The heck with what is causing global warming/cooling, it's man's fault......

43 posted on 12/07/2010 1:58:52 PM PST by American Constitutionalist (The fool has said in his heart, " there is no GOD " ..)
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To: DannyTN
" Rev 16:8 And the fourth angel poured out his vial upon the sun; and power was given unto him to scorch men with fire. Rev 16:9 And men were scorched with great heat, and blasphemed the name of God, which hath power over these plagues: and they repented not to give him glory. "

The fate of the Liberals and Atheist.
44 posted on 12/07/2010 2:03:50 PM PST by American Constitutionalist (The fool has said in his heart, " there is no GOD " ..)
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To: hoosierham
"Maunder Minimum of the geologically recent sunspot cycle was mentioned"

Of which, Maunder II could rapidly re-assert itself in the very short-term, much as Maunder I took a pause before basically wiping the spots from face of the sun for three score and ten...a continuing sum decline off the Mid-20th Century Maximum is a statistical inevitability....

45 posted on 12/07/2010 2:09:56 PM PST by StAnDeliver (\)
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach

We’ve been in an ice age for 4 million years. Normally there are no glaciers on the earth and the temperature is 6-10 degrees warmer than it is now.

It’s been colder the last few years because the sun has had an unusually long minimum (based on almost 400 years of data).

We went through something similar in the early 1910’s.


46 posted on 12/07/2010 2:17:19 PM PST by <1/1,000,000th%
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To: tubebender; Ernest_at_the_Beach
Suck up...

Occasinally I actually have to do something at work, like work and cannot devote full time to FReeping. I bounced this to Ernest because he's on a roll on this AGW scam. :)

47 posted on 12/07/2010 2:39:02 PM PST by SouthTexas (WE are the Wave)
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To: tubebender
LOL! Hubby, like myself, doesn't believe in any of this stuff. I view the whole thing as the Earth having cycles, short ones and long ones. I also think that the "huge fireball in the sky" (Hugh Hewitt) has a lot to do with how warm or cold we are.

I guess what I meant, was the whole "the earth has a temperature" b.s. that Gore was pushing. So, Al, what is a normal "temperature" for the Earth?

To steal a phrase from another blogger (Glenn Reynolds), "I'll start acting like there is a crisis when the people telling me there is a crisis start acting like there is a crisis."

48 posted on 12/07/2010 6:43:39 PM PST by LibertarianLiz
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach

Thanks Earnest


49 posted on 12/07/2010 7:03:29 PM PST by Paul Pierett (Paul Pierett)
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To: Paul Pierett
To all

There are Ice Ages of varying severity every 10-20 thousand years. We just left a fairly severe one approximately 10 thousand years ago, a mini-one ended approximately 200 years ago. So clearly we are headed toward another on the question is how far out and how severe. Its possible in 200 years our descendants might wish Global Warming was real!

50 posted on 12/07/2010 7:10:47 PM PST by Reily
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