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Wikileaks: WMD program existed in Iraq prior to US invasion
Law Enforcement Examiner ^ | 7 December 10 | Jim Kouri

Posted on 12/07/2010 4:50:21 PM PST by LSUfan

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To: LSUfan
 Saddam's secrets (WMD's)

 Saddam Sent WMD to Syria, Former General Alleges

 Post-Invasion Intel Showed WMD Went To Syria

 Iraq WMD's found in Three Syria Sites

101 posted on 12/07/2010 11:32:24 PM PST by vigilante2 (Reelect Nobody)
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To: BigSkyFreeper
I don’t think Manning stole them himself. I think he had help.

Yes, yes, it just couldn't have been a lone copier. It's obvious, because there were a bunch of guys up on top of this grassy knoll, you see, and there was a puff of smoke, and.....oops, wrong theory, sorry.

102 posted on 12/08/2010 12:15:53 AM PST by CanaGuy (Go Harper! We still love you!)
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To: wastedyears

This is not a vindication of Bush. Bush has said many times that one of his great regrets was that the US forces did not find WMD’s. He, as much as anyone, has created the impression that there were no WMD’s in Iraq.


103 posted on 12/08/2010 12:16:11 AM PST by freethinker_for_freedom
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To: dfwgator

No, no, let’s first give him a medal for releasing the truth about the WMD and THEN hang him.


104 posted on 12/08/2010 3:30:02 AM PST by 101voodoo
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To: freethinker_for_freedom
They didn't find them in Iraq because Saddam had them moves elsewhere.
105 posted on 12/08/2010 4:01:52 AM PST by wastedyears (It has nothing to do with safety, and everything to do with control.)
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To: BuckeyeTexan

Maybe there’s more there and we just haven’t found them all.

If this is still supposed to be a secret and it’s release indicates the WMD’s are indeed there...

We could still see a huge insurgency of black market arms dealers invade Iraq and that will destablize the fragile situation that exists today. One would think they would sneak in and out, but those crazy nutjobs from Iran would or will potentially invade to get the weapons if they think they are still there. The truth is...we have little to no idea if we have them all and they are secured.

Bush didn’t say it in his book, because he couldn’t it was still a State Top Secret...get it.


106 posted on 12/08/2010 4:32:38 AM PST by EBH ( Whether you eat your bread or see it vanish into a looter's stomach, is an absolute.)
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To: wastedyears

Bush jumped the shark.....a FReeper told me so


107 posted on 12/08/2010 4:46:07 AM PST by bert (K.E. N.P. N.C. D.E. +12 .....( History is a process, not an event ))
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To: annelizly

That is very strange....hmmmm


108 posted on 12/08/2010 4:54:10 AM PST by MsLady (If you died tonight, where would you go? Salvation, don't leave earth without it!)
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To: lapsus calami; STARWISE; maggief; onyx; penelopesire; SE Mom; Liz

Good repository on the WMD!

Guess Bushbots are in vogue again. W ratings are higher than 0, which is probably due to the doubters coming home.


109 posted on 12/08/2010 5:27:20 AM PST by hoosiermama (ONLY DEAD FISH GO WITH THE FLOW.......I am swimming with Sarahcudah! Sarah has read the tealeaves.)
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To: Crazieman

Megalomaniac.


110 posted on 12/08/2010 5:40:24 AM PST by 1010RD (First Do No Harm)
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To: RandallFlagg

Excellent and well done. Sorry to have missed it the first time.


111 posted on 12/08/2010 5:42:16 AM PST by 1010RD (First Do No Harm)
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To: LSUfan

Would someone please notify Colin Powell and Richard Armitage. Maybe Joe Wilson too.


112 posted on 12/08/2010 8:00:13 AM PST by Inwoodian
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To: Stayfrosty

Someone should mail this tip to drudge and fox.

I did!


113 posted on 12/08/2010 8:23:12 AM PST by rickyc
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To: naturalman1975

I’m glad I am on this site to here from folks like you.


114 posted on 12/08/2010 8:55:36 PM PST by stillfree? (NPR; TheNext Acorn.)
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To: ratsreek

Thanks, I missed it.


115 posted on 12/08/2010 8:57:11 PM PST by stillfree? (NPR; TheNext Acorn.)
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To: combat_boots; Verginius Rufus; piasa
Thanks for the ping! I don't remember a specific trip to Turkey per se (which isn't to say there wasn't one, just that I don't remember it). I do remember lots of interaction between the antiwar movement and lobbyists representing Turkish interests, notably Joseph Wilson.

Wilsongate: Motive, Means, and Opportunity

Additionally, Wilson advised American-Turkish investment groups, making use of Turkish contacts he had cultivated while stationed at the US embassy in Iraq from 1988 to 1991 and while advising joint US-UK-Turkish covert operations in northern Iraq as part of his duties as political advisor to the United States European Command from 1995 to 1997. Wilson’s Turkish clients notably included the American-Turkish Council (ATC), which is the US counterpart of the Turkey-based Turkish-U.S. Business Council (Turk-Amerikan IS Konseyi aka TAIK). TAIK operates under the secretariat of a group formed by leading Turkish corporations (Dis Ekonomik Iliskiler Kurulu aka DEIK, the Foreign Economics Relations Board) and supported by the Turkish government in an effort to advance Turkey’s international economic relations. Towards this end the ATC has cultivated relations with US political figures through means such as an annual conference in Washington where board members visit members of Congress and the Administration. Former FBI agent Sibel Edmonds has recently alleged that while she was with the FBI the ATC was a target of corruption, criminal, and counterintelligence investigations, a charge the ATC denies. It was while accepting an ATC award during a reception at the Turkish embassy in Washington in early 1997 that Wilson met his future wife Valerie Plame.

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According to Wilson’s account, his negative views on neoconservative Iraq policy were shared by two fellow associates of the American-Turkish Council. The first was ATC chairman Brent Scowcroft. . .Scowcroft has lobbied for Pennzoil in relation to a project of interest to the ATC involving the Azerbaijan International Operating Company (AIOC), a consortium of oil companies seeking to develop $8 billion of Caspian oil fields in the region north of Iraq near Turkey. Scowcroft has recently chaired the Council on Foreign Relations (CFR) U.S. Middle East Project, directed by Palestinian advocate Henry Siegman, with Saudi Arabian Prince Bandar bin Sultan serving as Honorary Chair. . .

According to Wilson, he and Scowcroft became close through their work on the ATC, developing a relationship intimate enough that Wilson’s book mentions Plame having a crush on Scowcroft. Wilson records that in the days following 9/11 he and Scrowcroft privately shared their concerns about what they perceived as increasing neoconservative influence on Bush’s Middle Eastern and Iraq policy. . .

Wilson mentions that his and Scowcroft’s views were also shared by another ATC associate, Turkish general Cevik Bir. Wilson had worked with Bir while he was advising the United States European Command on joint US-UK-Turkish operations in Iraq, and like the Turkish government Bir had been critical of US policy towards Iraq at that time. In May 2002 Bir and Wilson attended the ATC’s annual conference and cochaired a symposium where they joined in opposing views on Iraq put forth by Richard Perle. . .

Many angles to this story I haven't followed up on since I wrote this. Others may have more recent information (ping to piasa).

116 posted on 12/08/2010 11:00:21 PM PST by Fedora
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To: Fedora

Does Plame have any Turkish ties of her own?


117 posted on 03/17/2020 5:39:24 AM PDT by piasa (Attitude adjustments offered here free of charge.)
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To: piasa

Yes, she had Turkish ties stemming from her assignment to Greece for CIA. She helped coordinate George H.W. Bush’s visit to Greece and Turkey in 1991. After working at CIA front company Brewster Jennings in Brussels, she was reassigned to Langley in 1997. At that time, she met Joseph Wilson at the Turkish embassy while he was receiving an award from the American-Turkish Council, so clearly, she maintained whatever Turkish ties she had developed in Greece. The CIA censored how she met Wilson from her autobiography. Wilson was 13 years older than her, so the possibility that CIA was trying to keep tabs on him is distinct.


118 posted on 03/17/2020 11:31:40 PM PDT by Fedora
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To: Fedora

Ah, yes, I forgot about the Turkish embassy


119 posted on 03/19/2020 2:37:38 AM PDT by piasa (Attitude adjustments offered here free of charge.)
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