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David Frumís Wrong Direction (Great Synopsis of Obama's [Marxist] Career)
National Review Online ^ | 12/9/2010 | Stanley Kurtz

Posted on 12/09/2010 2:50:03 PM PST by mojito

....Obama was an orthodox Marxist-Leninist in his early college years; that he certainly attended two socialist conferences, which converted him to community organizing; that these conferences sketched a vision of socialist-friendly political coalitions led by African-Americans who would emerge from the ranks of community organizers; that the groups, strategies, and theologies Obama spent a lifetime cultivating were presented at these conferences as the program of a modernized socialism; that Obama worked for his entire career with the very stealth-socialist community organizers in Chicago who had authored the political strategy presented at those early socialist conferences; that these stealth-socialist community organizers sponsored Obama’s political rise; that Obama supported these socialists by channeling foundation money their way for years; that Obama worked closely with this stealth-socialist community-organizing network throughout his time as an Illinois state senator; that Obama has hidden, and particularly in the case of ACORN, bluntly lied about these radical connections; that the tactics, policies, and strategies crafted by Obama’s stealth-socialist organizing mentors have guided his entire political career, including his presidency; and that the same stealth-socialist community organizers who inspired and sponsored Obama’s political career advised his 2008 presidential campaign and continue to work with him at shaping and marshaling support for his presidential agenda.

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Yep. That's about it.
1 posted on 12/09/2010 2:50:07 PM PST by mojito
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To: mojito

Frum is Canadian.


2 posted on 12/09/2010 2:53:10 PM PST by y6162
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To: y6162

Yes, I realize that. It explains a lot.


3 posted on 12/09/2010 2:55:15 PM PST by mojito
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To: mojito

bump


4 posted on 12/09/2010 3:07:23 PM PST by a fool in paradise (The establishment clause isn't just against my OWN government establishing state religion in America)
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To: y6162

Frum is a statist and Romney supporter. Enough said.


5 posted on 12/09/2010 3:11:42 PM PST by trappedincanuckistan (livefreeordietryin)
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To: mojito
NR never recovered from Frum's UNPATRIOTIC CONSERVATIVES cover story.

http://old.nationalreview.com/frum/frum031903.asp

When was the last time you read this rag?

In the 80s/90s, we lived to read the next copy.

6 posted on 12/09/2010 3:18:46 PM PST by Forgotten Amendments (I'd rather be Plaxico Burress than Sean Taylor)
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To: mojito

Frank Marshall Davis, who was a card-carrying member of the Communist Party in the U.S., was Obama’s political mentor.

http://www.aim.org/aim-column/obamas-communist-mentor/


7 posted on 12/09/2010 3:30:35 PM PST by Deo volente (God willing, America will survive this Obamination.)
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To: mojito

What is a ‘Frum’? Some sort of holiday season beverage made with wine or ale and spices?


8 posted on 12/09/2010 3:38:01 PM PST by abb ("What ISN'T in the news is often more important than what IS." Ed Biersmith, 1942 -)
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To: abb
Is David Frum any relation to John Frum?
9 posted on 12/09/2010 3:52:20 PM PST by Riley (The Fourth Estate is the Fifth Column.)
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To: Riley

You may be on to something. Definitely should be investigated.

Also, I wonder if maybe we can invent a new word - “Frummery.” I mean if Sarah Palin and George Bush can, why can’t we?

It would be sort of a transmogrification of “flummery.”

http://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/flummery

I remember back in the 70’s when Carter was president, his communications director was a guy named Gerald Rafshoon.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gerald_Rafshoon

His media spin was called “Rafshoonery.”

http://books.google.com/books?id=2GK7AAAAIAAJ&pg=PA48&lpg=PA48&dq=rafshoonery&source=bl&ots=Rjqsx3HPaN&sig=J_NrcSxogZn1qLqI7-HlvB2kubc&hl=en&ei=4WoBTay7OIX6lweYqtX4CA&sa=X&oi=book_result&ct=result&resnum=1&ved=0CBMQ6AEwAA#v=onepage&q=rafshoonery&f=false


10 posted on 12/09/2010 4:04:52 PM PST by abb ("What ISN'T in the news is often more important than what IS." Ed Biersmith, 1942 -)
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To: mojito
Obama was an orthodox Marxist-Leninist in his early college years; that he certainly attended two socialist conferences, which converted him to community organizing

Marxist, sure. But Leninist? Does Stanley even know what an "orthodox Marxist-Leninist" was?

And who's to say Obama needed the conferences to be converted to community organizing?

11 posted on 12/09/2010 4:05:22 PM PST by x
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To: AdmSmith; Arthur Wildfire! March; Berosus; bigheadfred; ColdOne; Convert from ECUSA; Delacon; ...

Thanks mojito.


12 posted on 12/09/2010 4:08:48 PM PST by SunkenCiv (The 2nd Amendment follows right behind the 1st because some people are hard of hearing.)
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To: abb
Good stuff!

Speaking of John Frum, I was on a Cargo Cult tangent recently, and came across a group from the same island (Tanna) who sincerely believe that Prince Philip is the Lord Incarnate. They sent him a war club as a gift, he sent back a portrait of himself holding it. To them, well, that's the Shroud of Turin.

Eventually- the Beeb or somebody got the idea to fly a delegation from this normally-loincloth-clad tribe to England. They did a really fun reverse-cultural-anthropolgy piece called Meet the Natives. Little bit lefty-preachy in parts, but overall good fun.

13 posted on 12/09/2010 4:19:13 PM PST by Riley (The Fourth Estate is the Fifth Column.)
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To: SunkenCiv
In case your wondering about the title of the article, it is a rebuttal of a review of Kurtz's book that Frum did. The rebuttal is by Kurtz. Kurtz, in his book about Obama asserted the statements in the article body above. He also says this about Frum in closing in the article:

The root of the problem (Frum's confusion and resulting poorly argued articles and positions -JB), I think, is that Frum’s analysis of conservatism’s dilemma in 2008 has served him poorly. Frum’s ostensible purpose is to “build a conservatism that can win again.” But we already won, and did so by taking a very different route than that recommended by Frum.

A look at Frum’s 2008 book Comeback helps to measure the distance we’ve traveled in two years. In Comeback, Frum warns against reviving a “more principled” Reagan-style conservatism — as the Tea Party has just done, with great success. “Most Americans [want] the federal government to spend more rather than tax less,” said Frum in 2008. On issues like health care and the environment, Frum declared, “conservatives find themselves on the less popular side of the great issues of the day.” I rule the article a TKO in the second round to the victor, Kurtz!

14 posted on 12/09/2010 4:21:16 PM PST by Jack Black ( Whatever is left of American patriotism is now identical with counter-revolution.)
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To: Riley
I'm thinking we send David Frum to Tanna, along with Charles and Camilla. The royals could convince the natives that David is a relation of John Frum. Maybe.


15 posted on 12/09/2010 4:27:04 PM PST by abb ("What ISN'T in the news is often more important than what IS." Ed Biersmith, 1942 -)
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To: y6162

>> Frum is Canadian <<

Yep, just like Mark Steyn and Shania Twain!


16 posted on 12/09/2010 4:33:49 PM PST by Hawthorn
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To: abb
The royals could convince the natives that David is a relation of John Frum. Maybe.

That will last until the natives weary of excuses why David can't produce flocks of C-47s that dispense crates of Hershey bars and sunglasses and Coca-Cola and all manner of the kind of conveniences that we take to war in huge amounts.

17 posted on 12/09/2010 4:37:36 PM PST by Riley (The Fourth Estate is the Fifth Column.)
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To: Riley

Surely he could baffle the natives with a blizzard of *Frummery* and make them forget all about the goodies from the sky?


18 posted on 12/09/2010 4:39:20 PM PST by abb ("What ISN'T in the news is often more important than what IS." Ed Biersmith, 1942 -)
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To: Jack Black

Thanks JB.


19 posted on 12/09/2010 4:42:42 PM PST by SunkenCiv (The 2nd Amendment follows right behind the 1st because some people are hard of hearing.)
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To: Forgotten Amendments

>> When was the last time you read this rag? <<

Just a few minutes ago. I actually read Stanley Kurtz’s excellent critique of David Frum that’s the subject of this thread.

I also read Mark Steyn’s column every time it appears. Anything objection?


20 posted on 12/09/2010 4:42:50 PM PST by Hawthorn
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To: mojito

btt


21 posted on 12/09/2010 4:43:05 PM PST by Cacique (quos Deus vult perdere, prius dementat ( Islamia Delenda Est ))
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To: abb

I just choked on my drink- thanks. :-)


22 posted on 12/09/2010 4:45:02 PM PST by Riley (The Fourth Estate is the Fifth Column.)
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To: Hawthorn

You read the dead tree version?


23 posted on 12/09/2010 4:45:25 PM PST by Forgotten Amendments (I'd rather be Plaxico Burress than Sean Taylor)
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To: Forgotten Amendments

Frum hasn’t been in NR for two years. You are out of date.


24 posted on 12/09/2010 4:47:37 PM PST by Lucius Cornelius Sulla ('¬ďOur own government has become our enemy' - Sheriff Paul Babeu)
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To: Forgotten Amendments

>> You read the dead tree version? <<

Sure. I guess I’m not “environmentally sensitive” enough to realize how much that kind of reading increases my carbon footprint.


25 posted on 12/09/2010 4:50:30 PM PST by Hawthorn
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To: Lucius Cornelius Sulla

That was the point.

They ran his crap, he hurt them, now they regret it.

NEOCON fight!!!!!


26 posted on 12/09/2010 4:52:04 PM PST by Forgotten Amendments (I'd rather be Plaxico Burress than Sean Taylor)
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To: abb

Frum means devout or observant, in Yiddish...

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Frum

A last name is really not to a person’s fault or credit; in most circumstances one is born to (or marries into) a surname. Lots of fun in researching people’s last names, and when they received them, but that is another topic, for another day.

David Frum is not a bad fellow. I have met him and he is quite nice, and very smart. As to his political leanings, or his conclusions, they differ a bit from a conservative stance.


27 posted on 12/09/2010 5:07:38 PM PST by realr
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To: Forgotten Amendments

‘They ran his crap, he hurt them, now they regret it.’

Over the years there have been a fair number of NR staffers who have gone off the rails, including members of the Buckley family. The magazine has never enforced a party line, so long as someone is still in the conservative movement. They have never hinted that they regret publishing anything these folks wrote for them. These folks include Brent Bozell, Jr., Christopher Buckley, Garry Wills, Joan Didion, Jeffrey Hart, David Frum, and numerous lesser lights.

It is much the same here at FR, with rather more restrictions, as is the owner’s right. When you have done 1% as much as NR for the conservative movement, I will be interested in whom you want to write off.


28 posted on 12/09/2010 5:13:03 PM PST by Lucius Cornelius Sulla ('¬ďOur own government has become our enemy' - Sheriff Paul Babeu)
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To: mojito

29 posted on 12/09/2010 5:38:08 PM PST by 2ndDivisionVet ("You don't have a soul. You are a Soul. You have a body." CS Lewis)
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To: mojito
Frum has delusions of grandeur. Unfortunately (for Frum), he has no leadership skills, no charisma and he totally misread the direction the public would take following the election.

Besides, no one has followed a man as short as Frum since Napoleon.

30 posted on 12/09/2010 5:54:31 PM PST by bwc2221
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To: y6162

That explains the speech policing disease he has taken up. Gay issues are what threw him into this insanity.


31 posted on 12/09/2010 6:22:27 PM PST by SaraJohnson
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To: abb

“Frum” is what orthodox Jews call their way of life.


32 posted on 12/09/2010 6:24:04 PM PST by kabumpo (Kabumpo)
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To: Forgotten Amendments

I call it National Romney magazine


33 posted on 12/09/2010 8:04:55 PM PST by GeronL (#7 top poster at CC, friend to all, nicest guy ever, +96/-14, ignored by 1 sockpuppet.. oh & BANNED)
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To: Lucius Cornelius Sulla

I don’t think anyone considers Frum or Chrissy Buckley to be a part of the conservative movement. I find it hard to consider someone a part of the conservative movement who is continually attacking that movement.


34 posted on 12/09/2010 8:11:13 PM PST by GeronL (#7 top poster at CC, friend to all, nicest guy ever, +96/-14, ignored by 1 sockpuppet.. oh & BANNED)
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To: mojito

Wow .... Obama *is* the Manchurian Candidate.


35 posted on 12/09/2010 9:14:14 PM PST by WOSG (Carpe Diem)
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To: GeronL

Frum used to do good work, until he apparently became unhinged over Obama’s election (he had been getting weaker for some time before that). Chris Buckley had been tolerated for his dad’s sake, and his abilities as a writer. His support for Obama ended that.


36 posted on 12/09/2010 9:26:54 PM PST by Lucius Cornelius Sulla ('¬ďOur own government has become our enemy' - Sheriff Paul Babeu)
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To: abb
OMG....Prince Charle is wearing a TYRE PRESSURE GAUGE tucked into hois sock....?

...Prince..."Just a momemt my man...looks like that left rear tyre on your Morris Minor is in need of some inflation.

WHY DOES HE FLAUNT THE GAUGE AT US....?

37 posted on 12/10/2010 4:26:23 AM PST by spokeshave (Islamics and Democrats unite to cut off Adam Smith's invisible hand)
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To: mojito

Frum almost got it right. He should have stuck with Reagan's better sense of direction:

"You and I are told we must choose between a left or right, but I suggest there is no such thing as a left or right. There is only an up or down."
--Ronald Reagan

38 posted on 12/10/2010 7:22:45 AM PST by Liberty Valance (Keep a simple manner for a happy life :o)
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To: Liberty Valance

If “Left” and “Right” are labels, then “Forward” is a label too.

How stupid is this?


39 posted on 12/10/2010 7:27:10 AM PST by paulycy (Demand Constitutionality. Save America From Bankruptcy.)
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To: mojito

I remember before the elections in 2008 that it was found that the cellphones Michelle and Obama used were registered under the Communist Party of America (CPA) out in San Fransisco.

And when it became apparent that Obama was going to become POTUS they were discarded and was shushed up.

Another FReeper didn’t believe what I was talking about, but since recently that Obama seems to be falling faster than a terminal ballistic object I just thought I should bring this back to light.


40 posted on 12/10/2010 7:30:20 AM PST by Eye of Unk (If your enemy is quick to anger, seek to irritate him. Sun Tzu, The Art of War.)
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To: All
Last year's DNC "holiday" card.

This year's DNC "holiday" card.


41 posted on 12/10/2010 8:28:55 AM PST by Liz
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To: mojito

The more one has paid for a forgery, the more one defends it in the face of all the evidence to the contrary.

This is where Frum is stuck. He can’t admit that he was wrong.


42 posted on 12/10/2010 10:07:32 AM PST by Ouderkirk (Democrats...the party of Slavery, Segregation, Sodomy, and Sedition)
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To: mojito

What happened to Frum? He wasn’t always a jerk such as this?


43 posted on 12/10/2010 11:10:40 AM PST by Stepan12 (Palin & Bolton in 2012)
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To: Stepan12
Frum caught a bad case of Palin Derangement Syndrome in 2008 and he's been off the reservation ever since.
44 posted on 12/10/2010 1:14:05 PM PST by mojito
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To: Lucius Cornelius Sulla
What are you talking about? NR spent years purging and smearing anyone who didn't toe the party line. What's left? A bunch of lightweight neocon weenies who are unreadable, even if you do agree with everything they spew.

NR was a dynamic intellectual publication and the soul of conservatism for two generations. Now, it's like the print version of Sean Hannity’s show.

First, they came for the paleocons ....

45 posted on 12/10/2010 2:31:57 PM PST by Forgotten Amendments (I'd rather be Plaxico Burress than Sean Taylor)
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To: Stepan12
What happened to Frum? He wasn’t always a jerk such as this?

You be the judge:

http://old.nationalreview.com/frum/frum031903.asp

46 posted on 12/10/2010 2:59:37 PM PST by Forgotten Amendments (I'd rather be Plaxico Burress than Sean Taylor)
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To: spokeshave
Ayyye man...You're daft!
Its a Sgian Dubh

Kilt Knife (The Sgian Dubh)
47 posted on 12/10/2010 4:37:26 PM PST by Tainan (Cogito, ergo conservatus - Domari Nolo)
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To: mojito; Ernest_at_the_Beach

Ping to E.


48 posted on 12/10/2010 8:09:01 PM PST by Marine_Uncle (Honor must be earned....)
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To: Forgotten Amendments

‘What are you talking about? NR spent years purging and smearing anyone who didn’t toe the party line.’

If you are referring to Birchers and anti-Semites, yes NR has helped cleanse the conservative movement of such trash. A brilliant column by Frum, thanks for the reminder of what a mainstream, FR type conservative he used to be. A true loss to the conservative movement. Also a useful reminder of why paleocons no longer are part of conservatism.


49 posted on 12/11/2010 12:11:09 AM PST by Lucius Cornelius Sulla ('¬ďOur own government has become our enemy' - Sheriff Paul Babeu)
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To: mojito

This is an excellent piece, nicely written. My only reservation is that Kurtz fails to note that “socialism” is little more than a politician’s weasel word for “communism”, or at the very least for “communism-lite”.

By the way, isn’t Medved a fan of that “No Labels” nonsense?


50 posted on 12/11/2010 12:31:11 AM PST by Lancey Howard
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