Skip to comments.David Frumís Wrong Direction (Great Synopsis of Obama's [Marxist] Career)
Posted on 12/09/2010 2:50:03 PM PST by mojito
....Obama was an orthodox Marxist-Leninist in his early college years; that he certainly attended two socialist conferences, which converted him to community organizing; that these conferences sketched a vision of socialist-friendly political coalitions led by African-Americans who would emerge from the ranks of community organizers; that the groups, strategies, and theologies Obama spent a lifetime cultivating were presented at these conferences as the program of a modernized socialism; that Obama worked for his entire career with the very stealth-socialist community organizers in Chicago who had authored the political strategy presented at those early socialist conferences; that these stealth-socialist community organizers sponsored Obamas political rise; that Obama supported these socialists by channeling foundation money their way for years; that Obama worked closely with this stealth-socialist community-organizing network throughout his time as an Illinois state senator; that Obama has hidden, and particularly in the case of ACORN, bluntly lied about these radical connections; that the tactics, policies, and strategies crafted by Obamas stealth-socialist organizing mentors have guided his entire political career, including his presidency; and that the same stealth-socialist community organizers who inspired and sponsored Obamas political career advised his 2008 presidential campaign and continue to work with him at shaping and marshaling support for his presidential agenda.
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Frum is Canadian.
Yes, I realize that. It explains a lot.
Frum is a statist and Romney supporter. Enough said.
When was the last time you read this rag?
In the 80s/90s, we lived to read the next copy.
Frank Marshall Davis, who was a card-carrying member of the Communist Party in the U.S., was Obama’s political mentor.
What is a ‘Frum’? Some sort of holiday season beverage made with wine or ale and spices?
You may be on to something. Definitely should be investigated.
Also, I wonder if maybe we can invent a new word - “Frummery.” I mean if Sarah Palin and George Bush can, why can’t we?
It would be sort of a transmogrification of “flummery.”
I remember back in the 70’s when Carter was president, his communications director was a guy named Gerald Rafshoon.
His media spin was called “Rafshoonery.”
Marxist, sure. But Leninist? Does Stanley even know what an "orthodox Marxist-Leninist" was?
And who's to say Obama needed the conferences to be converted to community organizing?
Speaking of John Frum, I was on a Cargo Cult tangent recently, and came across a group from the same island (Tanna) who sincerely believe that Prince Philip is the Lord Incarnate. They sent him a war club as a gift, he sent back a portrait of himself holding it. To them, well, that's the Shroud of Turin.
Eventually- the Beeb or somebody got the idea to fly a delegation from this normally-loincloth-clad tribe to England. They did a really fun reverse-cultural-anthropolgy piece called Meet the Natives. Little bit lefty-preachy in parts, but overall good fun.
The root of the problem (Frum's confusion and resulting poorly argued articles and positions -JB), I think, is that Frums analysis of conservatisms dilemma in 2008 has served him poorly. Frums ostensible purpose is to build a conservatism that can win again. But we already won, and did so by taking a very different route than that recommended by Frum.
A look at Frums 2008 book Comeback helps to measure the distance weve traveled in two years. In Comeback, Frum warns against reviving a more principled Reagan-style conservatism as the Tea Party has just done, with great success. Most Americans [want] the federal government to spend more rather than tax less, said Frum in 2008. On issues like health care and the environment, Frum declared, conservatives find themselves on the less popular side of the great issues of the day. I rule the article a TKO in the second round to the victor, Kurtz!
>> Frum is Canadian <<
Yep, just like Mark Steyn and Shania Twain!
That will last until the natives weary of excuses why David can't produce flocks of C-47s that dispense crates of Hershey bars and sunglasses and Coca-Cola and all manner of the kind of conveniences that we take to war in huge amounts.
Surely he could baffle the natives with a blizzard of *Frummery* and make them forget all about the goodies from the sky?
>> When was the last time you read this rag? <<
Just a few minutes ago. I actually read Stanley Kurtz’s excellent critique of David Frum that’s the subject of this thread.
I also read Mark Steyn’s column every time it appears. Anything objection?
I just choked on my drink- thanks. :-)
You read the dead tree version?
Frum hasn’t been in NR for two years. You are out of date.
>> You read the dead tree version? <<
Sure. I guess I’m not “environmentally sensitive” enough to realize how much that kind of reading increases my carbon footprint.
That was the point.
They ran his crap, he hurt them, now they regret it.
Frum means devout or observant, in Yiddish...
A last name is really not to a person’s fault or credit; in most circumstances one is born to (or marries into) a surname. Lots of fun in researching people’s last names, and when they received them, but that is another topic, for another day.
David Frum is not a bad fellow. I have met him and he is quite nice, and very smart. As to his political leanings, or his conclusions, they differ a bit from a conservative stance.
‘They ran his crap, he hurt them, now they regret it.’
Over the years there have been a fair number of NR staffers who have gone off the rails, including members of the Buckley family. The magazine has never enforced a party line, so long as someone is still in the conservative movement. They have never hinted that they regret publishing anything these folks wrote for them. These folks include Brent Bozell, Jr., Christopher Buckley, Garry Wills, Joan Didion, Jeffrey Hart, David Frum, and numerous lesser lights.
It is much the same here at FR, with rather more restrictions, as is the owner’s right. When you have done 1% as much as NR for the conservative movement, I will be interested in whom you want to write off.
Besides, no one has followed a man as short as Frum since Napoleon.
That explains the speech policing disease he has taken up. Gay issues are what threw him into this insanity.
“Frum” is what orthodox Jews call their way of life.
I call it National Romney magazine
I don’t think anyone considers Frum or Chrissy Buckley to be a part of the conservative movement. I find it hard to consider someone a part of the conservative movement who is continually attacking that movement.
Wow .... Obama *is* the Manchurian Candidate.
Frum used to do good work, until he apparently became unhinged over Obama’s election (he had been getting weaker for some time before that). Chris Buckley had been tolerated for his dad’s sake, and his abilities as a writer. His support for Obama ended that.
...Prince..."Just a momemt my man...looks like that left rear tyre on your Morris Minor is in need of some inflation.
WHY DOES HE FLAUNT THE GAUGE AT US....?
Frum almost got it right. He should have stuck with Reagan's better sense of direction:
"You and I are told we must choose between a left or right, but I suggest there is no such thing as a left or right. There is only an up or down."
If “Left” and “Right” are labels, then “Forward” is a label too.
How stupid is this?
I remember before the elections in 2008 that it was found that the cellphones Michelle and Obama used were registered under the Communist Party of America (CPA) out in San Fransisco.
And when it became apparent that Obama was going to become POTUS they were discarded and was shushed up.
Another FReeper didn’t believe what I was talking about, but since recently that Obama seems to be falling faster than a terminal ballistic object I just thought I should bring this back to light.
This year's DNC "holiday" card.
The more one has paid for a forgery, the more one defends it in the face of all the evidence to the contrary.
This is where Frum is stuck. He can’t admit that he was wrong.
What happened to Frum? He wasn’t always a jerk such as this?
NR was a dynamic intellectual publication and the soul of conservatism for two generations. Now, it's like the print version of Sean Hannity’s show.
First, they came for the paleocons ....
You be the judge:
Ping to E.
‘What are you talking about? NR spent years purging and smearing anyone who didn’t toe the party line.’
If you are referring to Birchers and anti-Semites, yes NR has helped cleanse the conservative movement of such trash. A brilliant column by Frum, thanks for the reminder of what a mainstream, FR type conservative he used to be. A true loss to the conservative movement. Also a useful reminder of why paleocons no longer are part of conservatism.
This is an excellent piece, nicely written. My only reservation is that Kurtz fails to note that “socialism” is little more than a politician’s weasel word for “communism”, or at the very least for “communism-lite”.
By the way, isn’t Medved a fan of that “No Labels” nonsense?