Skip to comments.Illegal Immigrants Without Driverís Licenses Risk More Than a Ticket
Posted on 12/09/2010 7:28:50 PM PST by moonshinner_09
LAWRENCEVILLE, Ga. It was just another suburban fender-bender. A car zoomed into an intersection and braked too late to stop at a red light. The Georgia woman driving it, an American citizen, left with a wrecked auto, a sore neck and a traffic fine. But for Felipa Leonor Valencia, the Mexican woman who was driving the Jeep that was hit that day in March, the damage went far beyond a battered bumper. The crash led Ms. Valencia, an illegal immigrant who did not have a valid drivers license, to 12 days in detention and the start of deportation proceedings after 17 years of living in Georgia.
Like Ms. Valencia, an estimated 4.5 million illegal immigrants nationwide are driving regularly, most without licenses, according to an analysis by The New York Times. Only three states New Mexico, Utah and Washington currently issue licenses without proof of legal residence in the United States.
Many states have adopted tough new laws to prevent illegal immigrants from driving, while expanding immigration enforcement by the state and local police. As a result, at least 30,000 illegal immigrants who were stopped for common traffic violations in the last three years have ended up in deportation, Department of Homeland Security figures show. The numbers are rapidly increasing, aggravating tensions in the national debate over immigration.
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Driving without a license, no insurance, very common for illegals to drink and drive & flee.Any time someone with no legal right to drive does put us all in danger.Otherwise we would not need licenses.Just you be hit by an illegal and see how much help you get.
I think illegals should use only public transportation, something the NY Times love to push.
I see nothing wrong with deporting people who are found to be here illegally.
Stop kissing up to ILLEGALS!!!
>> RE:These are not horrific drivers, Ms. Kosky said. These are not D.U.I.s. These are not people who are putting people in danger.
They are CRIMINALS, Ms. Kosky, you dumb beyotch.
They should be fingerprinted, DNA sampled, microchipped in a dozen places, and then deported. Preferably that very same hour.
If they are ever found in the US again, ten years at hard labor building border walls.
Third time, executed.
Illegals in LA risk losing free taxi rides to the hospital.
Illegals in LA risk losing free taxi rides to the hospital.
5 posted on Thursday, December 09, 2010 9:34:31 PM by dragnet2 (Diversion and evasion are tools of deceit.)
What are you serious ?
I must say, seeing The Times use the term “illegal alien” represents a sea change, in sentiment. Can there be hope & change ? Not holding my breath, here, but sometimes, progress is measured in inches.....
Way back in 1985, when I worked all year at a fast food restaurant to buy my first car, it was totaled less than 2 months later. An illegal alien ran a stop light at a major intersection, swerved to miss on coming traffic, jumped a curb, across the sidewalk, went through the del taco sign, and some bushes until he finally plowed into the car I worked long and hard for.
He had no license, nor insurance, the police did nothing, just let him go. Oh, he did say “Really sorry ‘bout ‘jo car mang”.
I think illegals should use only public transportation, and only southbound...
boo phucking hoo!
I’ve heard too many similar stories. The illegal is usually drunk as well and still gets off scot-free. They don’t want to have to deport them.
At least, he apologized.
Illegal ran a red light, T-boned me. No English, no DL, only a state-issued ID card, no insurance. Total loss. Police shrugged.
Week later, got a call from her lawyer. She was threatening to sue me!
Wow! Where'd you see that?
I love these lines : Hispanic leaders said immigrants are learning to avoid the police.Attendance at Catholic churches dropped when police set up traffic checkpoints nearby..
Who cares how long she has lived in the US? If she is illegal; she is illegal. Send her home.
OOPS ! I meant “illegal immigrant” - my slip sure showed. Thanks for the astute observation!
I advise you to be careful..Your post could be considered or defined as a hate crime, and you could be ruined and jailed regardless of color of the alleged victim.
Some whites hate other whites because of their noses, ugly features, bulbous eyes etc....
Ignore the surprised little man
Awwww poor Ms. Valencia....
Ok. Since she can’t drive out of the country, I’ll help pay for the bus ticket.
The dream act is the reason for all these sob stories. I for one am out of tears.
Oh. :-( I was hoping they’d dropped that “immigrant” garbage.
“Invader” would be good.
The driver produced what (later) turned out to be a fraudulent DL, fake insurance card, stolen plates, plus phony vehicle registration. My vehicle's bodywork was going to be about $1000 and I had a $500 deductible. It wasn't worth it to make the accident claim. When I appealed to the State Police for help, they simply advised they had been hoodwinked at the accident site and there was nothing they could do about it.
Illegal immigrants are totally harmless and just here to work. Yeah, right.
I believe that there needs to be a federal law that makes any felony committed by an illegal a federal crime with stringent punishment and no parole. States would be free to enact similar statutes with even more stringent punishments. If illegals knew that if they so much as spit on the sidewalk thy would be severely punished and then deported, they might think twice about coming here.
Now we're talkin'!
Notice how the NYTimes cherry picks an accident where an American driver collided with an illegal. More often than not, it is the illegal who is causing the accident, very often a tragic accident involving death of others . By their very nature, the illegal is a law breaker and law breaking does not stop with not having a driver's license, it often includes driving while drunk, speeding, etc. Why would they obey any law, after all.
I miss Georgia.
Absolutely not. Illegals arrested for some other, any other, crime should be forced to work much like the old chain gangs. They should be forced to work public projects like highways, etc. We'll give them room and board (a jail cell and two squares a day) and they'll give us labor.
to discover the truth about the illegal drivers, the nyts
should look at car insurance actuarial numbers.
the costs to american drivers is in the billions and the illegals
bear no responsibility. most flee the scene and are never
caught. that is what happened to me, and although insurance
covered most damage i was out several hundred dollars through
no fault of my own. police were totally disinterested.
the illegals are horrible drivers and have wreaked death
and destruction on thousands of american families. the
nyts simply pretends this isn’t true.
Illegal immigrants are totally harmless and just here to work. Yeah, right.
23 posted on Thursday, December 09, 2010 10:14:52 PM by Blue Jays (Rock Hard, Ride Free)
He was just here to work.LA JOYA - A tip led La Joya police on a 30 mile chase that ended with the seizure of more than 400 pounds of pot and the arrest of one man, said Police Chief Jose Del Angel.
The chase began when officers were given the heads-up about a truck that was reported stolen out of San Juan, Del Angel said. When police tried to pull the driver of the truck over, he began heading north and didnt stop for about 30 miles, he said.
The chase ended when the driver finally pulled over and began running, the police chief said. A U.S. Border Patrol helicopter, which was called in to assist, was able to track and apprehend the suspect before he was able to get away. Police later identified him as 24-year-old Arturo Alaniz from Michoacán, Mexico. He was carrying more than 400 pounds of marijuana in the truck, police said.
Alaniz, a Mexican national who has been deported several times, was charged with possession of marijuana and evading arrest, Del Angel said. The bond for evading arrest was set at $50,000, while the bond for procession was set at $1 million.http://www.themonitor.com/news/police-45264-joya-chase.html
Here is another harmless driver.December 08, 2010 9:37 PM
Police arrested the driver of a truck involved in a fatal motorcycle accident Tuesday after he failed to properly identify himself.
Omar Ulices Hernandez Rivera, 34, was involved in an accident near 17th Street and Hackberry Avenue shortly after noon Tuesday that resulted in the death of 16-year-old Carlos Ramon of Mission. Police believe Ramon may have run a stop sign, but are still investigating the accident, they said.
Rivera, who has been previously deported, is wanted by immigration officials, police said. He was charged with failure to identify, a class B misdemeanor, and bond was set at $2,000, police said.
it’s just another article by the NYT in pimping the DREAM ACT
I can't see any problem with that since the libtards tell us they came here to work. Hey, if they do a good job, they can even earn the going jailbird rate of 75 cents an hour or whatever it is and wire it home to Mexico.
Last I checked, legal status isn't needed for making license plates or whatever.
I was thinkin’...
Since illegal aliens living here are breaking the law...committing a crime, would any death caused by them (ie, drunk driving, etc.) be considered a death in the commission of a crime?
I agree 100 % Thanks !
“Here in Australia we are no longer allowed to refer to them as “Illegal Aliens”.Because our idiot government is so politically correct that we now have to call them “Irregular Arrivals”
If we take a DHS “man caused disaster” resulting in an “Irregular Arrival” somebody’s going to be paying child support.
The illegal immigrant accused of killing a Benedictine nun in a drunken driving crash in Prince William County has been indicted for murder.
Carlos A. Martinelly Montano, 23, now faces a charge of felony murder, court records show, for the Aug. 1 crash that killed Sister Denise Mosier, 66.
Authorities allege that Montano was drunk when a Subaru Outback he was driving struck a guardrail then collided head-on with a car carrying Mosier and two other nuns on Bristow Road near Wright Lane.
Montano was initially charged with involuntary manslaughter, drunken driving, and driving on a revoked license.
Sisters Charlotte Lange, 75, and Connie Ruth Lupton, 70, were seriously injured in the crash.
The grand jury also indicted Montano with driving with a revoked license and maiming resulting from drunken driving.
He could receive up to 40 years in prison.
“These are very serious charges,” said Prince William County Commonwealth’s Attorney Paul Ebert.
Ebert said the “nexus between felonious acts and the death” of Mosier supported the murder charge against Montano.
Ebert said the original charges would likely be dropped in favor of prosecuting the more serious allegations.
“The Benedictine Sisters acknowledge that Carlos Martinelly Montano must be served due justice for his actions,” Sister Cecilia Dwyer said. “We trust that the courts will be moderate and just in the handling of his case.”
The accusations against Montano, who was smuggled into the United States from Bolivia as a child, have sparked outcry over illegal immigration.
When he was charged in the Aug. 1 crash, Montano had two previous DUI convictions. He had been detained by U.S. Immigration and Customs Enforcement, but was released pending a deportation hearing.
This week, Virginia Gov. Bob McDonnell told the state Department of Motor Vehicles to stop accepting a federally issued work authorization card as proof of legal status.
Montano had received the employment authorization card in January 2009, months after deportation proceedings had begun for his second DUI offense. Authorities say he used the card to show his legal status when applying for a Virginia ID.
Corey Stewart, chairman of the county board of supervisors, has asked Congress to subpoena federal immigration records to find out how many illegal immigrants were released after arrest.
Read more at the Washington Examiner: http://washingtonexaminer.com/local/illegal-immigrant-indicted-murder-nun039s-death#ixzz17gVQonTS
Being here illegally should be made a FELONY subject to prosecution.
She's been here 17 years and hasn't bothered to learn English yet?
After coming to Georgia from an ox-and-plow farming village in Mexico, Ms. Valencia had a 12-year career at a fast-food restaurant in a suburban mall, rising from hamburger flipper to cashier to assistant manager. Among her most carefully preserved possessions are two diplomas for the companys management training courses.
How could someone be here seventeen years, go through a management training course, and still need an interpreter? Also, as someone who once worked in fast food, there's no way I believe she was not taking at least one of those jobs from an American. This is another example of "They're just taking jobs Americans won't do." is a lie.
I'm sure she has family in Mexico or wherever she came from.
I've lost count of how many articles I've read over the past 10 years where an illegal is involved in a traffic accident and then jumps our and runs away.
The NY Times once again whining about other states.
“She’s been here 17 years and hasn’t bothered to learn English yet?”
She’s a lazy criminal invader.
Ms. Valencia is a LOSER on many levels.
Eff her, the illegal scum like her, and the NYT. Deport them all.
Just killing US citizens. How dare anyone accuse her!
Nobody wants to address who actually gets the bill for these accidents: the (legal) auto insurance consumers. Here in NJ they had for a short time a program where you received stickers for your license plate corners when you registered your car (I don’t know why they discontinued it). If your plate simply had a registration sticker on the lower left corner and an insurance sticker on your lower right, these accidents would dry up very quickly: you’d be giving a cop probable cause to stop any vehicle without them, and even if they won’t deport someone they could at least impound the vehicle. Living in NJ, there is no doubt in my mind that while the average American wants these illegals deported the government (both parties) want them to stay.
Here in northern NJ this is very common; they can go all the way to high school graduation in Spanish. All of our crosswalk signals have been changed from “Walk/Don’t Walk” to the international red hand and white figure walking. I guess it should, as there are fewer Americans here every year anyway.
“The driver produced what (later) turned out to be a fraudulent DL, fake insurance card, stolen plates, plus phony vehicle registration.”
Look at the accident a few years ago in California (major pile-up, with fire/fatalities, I believe in a tunnel). When the police responded there was more vehicles than drivers; multiple drivers had fled the scene...
In the NYC area it is getting increasingly difficult to get any job in retail without Spanish, due in large part to the government’s selling out our American dream. There is no doubt they are outrught stealing jobs from legal Americans. Thankfully as the economy sputtered I come home less and less to a neighborhood filled with illegal aliens doing yardwork for cash; when the illegals start leaving your area you know you have a full-blown Depression...
Actually, they are. Every day in my town/county an illegal Mexican hurts or kills a person. They have an astronomical rate of hit and runs. In my experience they are a bigger risk than drunks. With their ignorant, 3rd world mentality, they oftentimes have no concept of the rules of the road or the desire to learn. That, coupled with their aggression and arrogance, is not a winning combo.
If their only vehicular crime was tossing dirty diapers out their window (which they do with regularity here) I could tolerate them. As it stands now, I will not ever tolerate them. They are a menace and a threat to public safety.