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Breaking On Fox: VA Judge Declares Individual Mandate In ObamaCare UNCONSTITUTIONAL
Fox News | 12/13/10 | Fox News

Posted on 12/13/2010 9:21:01 AM PST by careyb

Just in... will keep you posted...


TOPICS: Breaking News; News/Current Events; US: Virginia
KEYWORDS: 10thamendment; bhohealthcare; commiecomeuppence; cuccinelli; healthcare; individualmandate; obamacare; ruling; scotus; statesrights; virginia
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To: careyb
In researching the potential effects of the lack of a severability clause in ObamaCare, it seems that it doesn't necessarily mean the whole bill gets thrown out.

Severability and ObamaCare

But the lack of a severability clause wouldn’t necessarily result in the overrule the rest of the legislation, which mostly have to do with spending and rationing — the expansion of Medicaid, Medicare cuts, and sweeping regulatory authority — and isn’t wrapped up in the mandate. This has been the Court’s approach to other issues, such as the recent Sarbanes-Oxley ruling, another law which lacked a severability clause, where they invalidated a portion of the law and allowed the rest to stand.

141 posted on 12/13/2010 9:53:28 AM PST by BuckeyeTexan (There are those that break and bend. I'm the other kind.)
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To: careyb

Thank You, Lord.

The angel still rides in this whirlwind, and for that we are grateful.


142 posted on 12/13/2010 9:53:44 AM PST by exit82 (Democrats are the enemy of freedom. Sarah Palin is our Esther.)
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To: Cobra64
I think I will temper my enthusiasm until the bill is totally repealed, shredded, burned, and the ashes shot into space towards the sun.

Or the same is done to Obozo

143 posted on 12/13/2010 9:53:46 AM PST by verga (I am not an apologist, I just play one on Television)
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To: Cobra64

***I think I will temper my enthusiasm until the bill is totally repealed, shredded, burned, and the ashes shot into space towards the sun.***

I will settle for the SCOTUS shoving this travesty up Obama’s U NO WHERE.


144 posted on 12/13/2010 9:54:26 AM PST by Ruy Dias de Bivar (I visited GEN TOMMY FRANKS Military Museum in HOBART, OKLAHOMA! Well worth it!)
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To: TomGuy; narses; neverdem; xsmommy; hobbes1
Question about whether it is a tax or not.

Legislators would not call it a tax. Now, it can be argued as a tax.

But the version passed and signed came from the Senate. So, if it is a tax, then the law must start in the House - so it is unconstitutional that way also.

145 posted on 12/13/2010 9:56:00 AM PST by Robert A Cook PE (I can only donate monthly, but socialists' ABBCNNBCBS continue to lie every day!)
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To: matt1234

It probably doesn’t even have to be written. If there was an exception, it would have to be in writing.


146 posted on 12/13/2010 9:56:44 AM PST by Sacajaweau
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To: careyb

Striking this horrible bill down will provide a major economic stimulus!!!!

They must get rid of all of the mandates (especially the till age 26 and the manditory coverage of pre-existing).


147 posted on 12/13/2010 9:56:54 AM PST by ak267
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To: careyb

Cuccinelli for president!!!
He’s young, good looking, dynamic, conservative, intelligent and a winner!!!


148 posted on 12/13/2010 9:57:05 AM PST by tirednvirginia
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To: GonzoGOP
Well now they run into the problem that all tax bills must start in the House. It wasn't a problem if it wasn't a tax. But if it is a tax, then the method of passage was unconstitutional.

Actually, the bill was House Resolution 3590, sponsored by the Honorable Charles Rangel. The House bill was originally called "Service Members Home Ownership Tax Act of 2009," but was amended in the Senate to strip out the original resolution and replace it with what became "Patient Protection and Affordable Care Act."

See Bill Text Versions 111th Congress (2009-2010) H.R.3590

-PJ

149 posted on 12/13/2010 9:57:22 AM PST by Political Junkie Too ("Comprehensive" reform bills only end up as incomprehensible messes.)
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To: Yo-Yo
Step one. Next comes an appelate panel.

From THE WASHINGTON COMPOST:

The Virginia suit would ordinarily next be heard by the Fourth Circuit Court of Appeals. Cuccinelli has indicated, however, that he would like to bypass the appeals court and move directly to the Supreme Court, an extraordinary legal maneuver that would require the high court to decide that the case held extreme public importance and intervene immediately.

He has asked the White House to sign on to the request, arguing they, too, would benefit from a quick resolution to legal questions surrounding the law. However, it is not clear whether the White House will agree.

Gotta wonder if the second paragraph is a bit of theater. Odinga and fellow Dhimmitards would like nothing better than for confusion to reign.
150 posted on 12/13/2010 9:57:38 AM PST by ForGod'sSake (You have just two choices: SUBMIT or RESIST with everything you've got!)
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To: Lonesome in Massachussets

>>What would Biden say?<<

He woudl say Lincoln fought bravely in WWI.

Not that that is relevant. ;)


151 posted on 12/13/2010 9:57:42 AM PST by RobRoy (The US Today: Revelation 18:4)
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To: P-Marlowe; Cheerio; MrB; FourPeas; Michael Barnes

Ping to info about severability clause.


152 posted on 12/13/2010 9:58:31 AM PST by BuckeyeTexan (There are those that break and bend. I'm the other kind.)
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To: Cobra64
In the last analysis the severability issue doesn't matter much. The individual mandate is the keystone of the whole Obamacare arch. Knock that out and the whole thing comes crashing down. If this ruling stands the test of appeal repeal of Obamacare will be inevitable. They'll do it on a voice vote without significant opposition. Better yet, for the first time since Wickard v. Filburn there will be genuine, judicially enforced limits on the scope of federal power. That has profound implications for the shape of our government going forward. It is a mortal blow to the whole progressive idea. Obamacare may turn out to be the progressive Picket's charge — the catastrophic “advance” from which progressives never fully recover.

As we celebrate, however, bear in mind that there is danger in beating back Obamacare through the courts. If Obama had an IQ anywhere in the normal range he would be able to seize on this ruling as an opportunity to retreat gracefully from his health care debacle. He could work with the new Congress to replace Obamacare with something the public might like and pave the way for a successful reelection campaign. I'm betting he's too inflexible and too stupid for that, but still, the danger is there.

153 posted on 12/13/2010 9:58:50 AM PST by fluffdaddy (Is anyone else missing Fred Thompson about now?)
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To: Robert A. Cook, PE
But the version passed and signed came from the Senate.

See my post 149.

-PJ

154 posted on 12/13/2010 9:59:18 AM PST by Political Junkie Too ("Comprehensive" reform bills only end up as incomprehensible messes.)
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To: Cobra64

I’m with you. The biggest thing is getting rid of Obama and all his Dem puppeteers and regain the Senate, the House and the Whitehouse.


155 posted on 12/13/2010 9:59:22 AM PST by Sacajaweau
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To: careyb
Fox reporting that White House is “not too concerned about this ruling...”

In Mr. Skittle's world it's all unicorns, rainbows and sunshine.


156 posted on 12/13/2010 10:00:03 AM PST by COBOL2Java (Obama is the least qualified guy in whatever room he walks into.)
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To: hondact200

Unfortunately, there are hundreds of other provisions that give the bill has that give the federal government far too much power over our lives. Provisions that give the feds the power to decide what type of insurance must be offered by your employer.


157 posted on 12/13/2010 10:00:16 AM PST by Blood of Tyrants (Islam is the religion of Satan and Mohammed was his minion.)
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To: P-Marlowe

That is correct.

This is wonderful.


158 posted on 12/13/2010 10:01:28 AM PST by HonestConservative (http://www.freedomradiorocks.com)
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To: FourPeas
From the same article linked to at 141.

Some people have claimed the severability clause is absent from Obamacare because the writing process of the bill was such a cluster, the clause was just forgotten. But the reality, I’m told, is that a severability clause would’ve been added in conference between the House and Senate. Except that as you know, no such conference happened — everything had to be done via reconciliation after the House passed the Senate bill. Hence, no severability clause.

159 posted on 12/13/2010 10:02:36 AM PST by BuckeyeTexan (There are those that break and bend. I'm the other kind.)
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To: fluffdaddy

Obamacare may turn out to be the progressive Picket’s charge
++++++++++++++++++++++++

I like that sentence...can I borrow it??? :)


160 posted on 12/13/2010 10:03:21 AM PST by ak267
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