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Breaking On Fox: VA Judge Declares Individual Mandate In ObamaCare UNCONSTITUTIONAL
Fox News | 12/13/10 | Fox News

Posted on 12/13/2010 9:21:01 AM PST by careyb

Just in... will keep you posted...


TOPICS: Breaking News; News/Current Events; US: Virginia
KEYWORDS: 10thamendment; bhohealthcare; commiecomeuppence; cuccinelli; healthcare; individualmandate; obamacare; ruling; scotus; statesrights; virginia
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To: DarthVader

I will certainly grant that if the 4th circuit and the SC let stand the strike of Section 1501 it sure makes the issue of “de-funding” by the House a simple solution — they simply refuse to grant other funding and then deal with cutting funding to alternate enforcement and execution methods.


281 posted on 12/13/2010 12:03:15 PM PST by KC Burke
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To: careyb
Huge victory for freedom. So... riddle me this, Obama... how can you now FORCE us to invest in your bankrupt Ponzi scheme known as Social Security?
282 posted on 12/13/2010 12:07:02 PM PST by April Lexington (Study the Constitution so you know what they are taking away!)
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To: Cheerio

Yes, that’s the same article to which I linked in 141. It goes on to say that not having a severability clause doesn’t mean the whole bill gets thrown out. The SCOTUS left parts of Sarbanes-Oxley in place even though it didn’t have a severability clause either. The court has the option to presume severability. This is isn’t clear cut.


283 posted on 12/13/2010 12:08:08 PM PST by BuckeyeTexan (There are those that break and bend. I'm the other kind.)
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To: Cheerio

Yes, that’s the same article to which I linked in 141. It goes on to say that not having a severability clause doesn’t mean the whole bill gets thrown out. The SCOTUS left parts of Sarbanes-Oxley in place even though it didn’t have a severability clause either. The court has the option to presume severability. This is isn’t clear cut.


284 posted on 12/13/2010 12:08:18 PM PST by BuckeyeTexan (There are those that break and bend. I'm the other kind.)
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To: KC Burke

Great one more flawed court.


285 posted on 12/13/2010 12:09:43 PM PST by stockpirate (Sen. Mitch McConnel (R) has betrayed the Nove. 2, 201 voters w/his tax bill!)
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To: KC Burke

Great one more flawed court.


286 posted on 12/13/2010 12:09:52 PM PST by stockpirate (Sen. Mitch McConnel (R) has betrayed the Nov. 2, 201 voters w/his tax bill!)
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To: KC Burke

Great one more flawed court.


287 posted on 12/13/2010 12:10:00 PM PST by stockpirate (Sen. Mitch McConnel (R) has betrayed the Nov. 2, 2010 voters w/his tax bill!)
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To: KC Burke
SCOTUS ruling or not, it is a simple matter to not appropriate funds for that piece of legislation. Congress doesn’t need a Court ruling on that.

Congress can easily not appropriate funds for the legislation. . .if they had the political will to do so.

288 posted on 12/13/2010 12:14:15 PM PST by Hulka
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To: careyb

REPEAL THE ENTIRE THING!!!!!!!!!!!!


289 posted on 12/13/2010 12:14:59 PM PST by mojitojoe (In itÂ’s 1600 years of existence, Islam has 2 main accomplishments, psychotic violence and goat curr)
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To: careyb

Watch, Stephen Breyer will find a way to argue that James Madison wanted National ObamaCare.

And he’ll do it with a smile, while sounding so very grandpa-sh and downright nice.


290 posted on 12/13/2010 12:15:20 PM PST by cookcounty (December 31st is coming.....STOP the Democrats' Midnight Tax Jack-Up!!)
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To: pgkdan

I’m sorry, but my explanation is absolutely true.

The judge is only allowed to answer the question that was asked. If he extends his ruling beyond that, it is grounds for the ruling to be struck down based on procedural and jurisdictional grounds. To stay within the confines of the law, the judge has to rule within the limited scope of the case before him.

The principle, though, applies throughout the land. On that we absolutely agree. But, the ruling in this specific case is rightfully limited to the confines of this specific case - until it is expanded by other rulings, or until it is contradicted by other (unconnected) rulings.

Once again: I agree that the principle of the ruling should be applied throughout the land. BUT, the scope of the ruling necessarily limits its direct application to only the specific jurisdiction involved. In this case, the state of Virginia.


291 posted on 12/13/2010 12:15:20 PM PST by MortMan (To Obama "Kill them all and let [God] sort them out" is an abortion slogan.)
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To: careyb

Obama is as successful on the healthcare bill as he was on the Chicago Olympics and the World Cup in the U.S. Bozo the Clown and he have a lot in common.


292 posted on 12/13/2010 12:27:48 PM PST by safetysign
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To: anglian
Re: The Significant Error in Judge Hudson's Opinion

There's no "significant error", except in Orin Kerr's logic. If you read that post's comments, reader "GMUSL '07 Alum" provides an excellent response to Orin's silly statement.

293 posted on 12/13/2010 12:28:55 PM PST by vrwc1
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To: animal172
I think they will find another way to fund it.

Yeah, the white-male tax.
294 posted on 12/13/2010 12:33:23 PM PST by Red in Blue PA (Planning on using 911? Google "Brittany Zimmerman")
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To: anglian

There is no significant error in the logic Hudson applied to the “necessary and proper” clause. The author at volokh misses the boat. Chief Justice Marshall didn’t say that Congress could use unconstitutional means to achieve an end. In fact, he said that the means must themselves be according to the letter and spirit of the Constitution.

But to the author’s point ... that the individual mandate is a means to a Constitutional end. What end? Requiring the purchase of insurance seems like an end rather than a means.


295 posted on 12/13/2010 12:34:28 PM PST by BuckeyeTexan (There are those that break and bend. I'm the other kind.)
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To: struggle; careyb

He is just “sitting” in for “Washington-Bob” Gibbs, LOL!!!


296 posted on 12/13/2010 12:41:36 PM PST by danamco (")
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To: FourPeas

Because contrary to their pontifications to the contrary THEY DID READ THE BILL!


297 posted on 12/13/2010 12:48:20 PM PST by SandRat (Duty, Honor, Country! What else needs said?)
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To: PA-RIVER

>Why should Virginia be exempt, and the rest of not?<

Ahem. Are you forgetting about Nebraska?

“Nebraska’s sweet deal on healthcare reform could lead to lawsuit”

http://www.csmonitor.com/USA/Politics/2010/0113/Nebraska-s-sweet-deal-on-healthcare-reform-could-lead-to-lawsuit

And the Cornhuskers got their exemption because of a deal cut by their Rat politician. Virgina’s exemption would be from a constitutional standpoint, not backscratching.


298 posted on 12/13/2010 12:51:12 PM PST by Darnright (There can never be a complete confidence in a power which is excessive. - Tacitus)
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To: AdamBomb

299 posted on 12/13/2010 12:57:19 PM PST by SandRat (Duty, Honor, Country! What else needs said?)
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To: apastron

WOLVERINES!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


300 posted on 12/13/2010 12:59:43 PM PST by GlockThe Vote (Who needs Al Queda to worry about when we have Obama?)
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