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Judge in Va. strikes down federal health care law
Ap/YahooNews ^ | 12/13/10 | Larry O'Dell

Posted on 12/13/2010 9:51:11 AM PST by Kartographer

A federal judge declared the Obama administration's health care law unconstitutional Monday, siding with Virginia's attorney general in a dispute that both sides agree will ultimately be decided by the U.S. Supreme Court.

U.S. District Judge Henry E. Hudson is the first federal judge to strike down the law, which has been upheld by two others in Virginia and Michigan. Several other lawsuits have been dismissed and others are pending, including one filed by 20 other states in Florida.

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TOPICS: Breaking News; Government; Politics/Elections; US: Virginia
KEYWORDS: bhohealthcare; bushappointee; bushjudge; cuccinelli; federalism; gwb; healthcare; lawsuit; obamacare; presidentgeorgewbush; spartansixdelta; va
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To: Bruce Campbells Chin
If the individual mandate is the problem, wouldn't that argument also ban any plan to privatize Social Security to the extent such a plan required people to make retirement contribution into certain classes of privately-owned investments?

No. Because none of the laws considered in privitizing Social Security REQUIRED anything. They simply ALLOWED those wanting to privately invest to be able to do so.

81 posted on 12/13/2010 11:37:49 AM PST by johniegrad
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To: goldi

So, are you going to give in because 5 people told you to do so? I’ll never submit to control. Put me in prison. We’ll overwhelm the system. They can not control us. They can try. We will resist.


82 posted on 12/13/2010 11:40:15 AM PST by Indy Pendance
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To: pghoilman

I’m scratching my head over that one. WTF? were they thinking?


83 posted on 12/13/2010 11:41:50 AM PST by Indy Pendance
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To: Steve0113

That particular part of the Act, Sec 1501 is rules unconstitutional. As such, it is unenforceable.

Now the US has two options: To appeal the decision (which is likely) and/or to try to get Congress to re-draft it.

The second option is the cats meow because if it goes back to Congress, Congress will probably repeal the whole damn mess!


84 posted on 12/13/2010 11:41:50 AM PST by djf (Touch my junk and I'll break yur mug!!!)
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To: Trajan88

I can hardly wait! I usually podcast him, today, I’ll plug into the internet for his live show.


85 posted on 12/13/2010 11:43:37 AM PST by Indy Pendance
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To: Kartographer

Score for the good guys....vs. everything else Nation D.C. is trying to create satellite States with.


86 posted on 12/13/2010 11:44:14 AM PST by Varsity Flight
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To: johniegrad
My understanding of some of the privatization proposals is that you would have the option of keeping your money with the feds, or investing it in private securities. In general, I don't think most such proposals contain an "opt-out" provision where you can just keep all the money that would have gone to SS and not invest any of it. If I'm wrong, fine. Then my question would only pertain to plans that fit those criteria.
87 posted on 12/13/2010 11:45:10 AM PST by Bruce Campbells Chin
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To: del4hope

Hey, I agree with you. I don’t think SS is constitutional, and the same applies to Medicare, etc. Unfortunately, we lost that argument, so the Constitutional slate on which the Court will be writing includes those two programs.


88 posted on 12/13/2010 11:47:10 AM PST by Bruce Campbells Chin
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To: jessduntno

Kagen wiil have to recuse herself. EGO 4,4.


89 posted on 12/13/2010 11:47:18 AM PST by golfisnr1
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To: Bruce Campbells Chin

That’s why it is not the same scenario. You have to have SS payroll deductions by law and that is not the question. The Obamacare individual mandate requires that you purchase something from a particular vendor. The SS analogy does not work because you have an option of how those taxes are invested. You are not forced to purchase anything from a specific vendor even though you are required to pay the tax.


90 posted on 12/13/2010 11:57:50 AM PST by johniegrad
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To: expatpat

Many conspiracy theories on why severability clause was omitted. Below is a good summary:

http://spectator.org/archives/2010/12/07/of-severability-and-sins-of-om


91 posted on 12/13/2010 12:05:12 PM PST by pghoilman (Earth First. We'll drill the rest of the galaxy later.)
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To: cycle of discernment

Yes. I believe this will be the outcome.


92 posted on 12/13/2010 12:05:17 PM PST by Dubya-M-DeesWent2SyriaStupid!
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To: Kartographer

Does anyone know this judge’s record with the Supreme Court or the other 2 judges?


93 posted on 12/13/2010 12:06:18 PM PST by republicangel
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To: golfisnr1

Scalia
Roberts
Alito
Thomas

Kennedy

Breyer
Ginsberg
Sotomayor
Kagan


Kennedy will likely go our way :)


94 posted on 12/13/2010 12:06:27 PM PST by Principled (Get the capital back! NRST!)
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To: johniegrad
The SS analogy does not work because you have an option of how those taxes are invested.

Huh?????

95 posted on 12/13/2010 12:06:45 PM PST by Red_Devil 232 (VietVet - USMC All Ready On The Right? All Ready On The Left? All Ready On The Firing Line!)
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To: Principled

5-4 It is the most egregious act ever by a dictating socialist. If someone lives in their house and never comes out, how the hell do you justify taxing them.


96 posted on 12/13/2010 12:10:13 PM PST by eyedigress ((Old storm chaser from the west)?)
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To: Kartographer

FINALLY!

Unbelievable. A federal judge FINALLY strikes down something that SHOULD be struck down.

Wow.


97 posted on 12/13/2010 12:14:51 PM PST by Jeff Winston
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To: johniegrad
After this ruling, I don't see why I have to be forced to invest in the Federal government's giant Ponzi scheme called Social Security.... I should have the choice of finding a PRIVATE SECTOR alternative to the government scam...
98 posted on 12/13/2010 12:15:22 PM PST by April Lexington (Study the Constitution so you know what they are taking away!)
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To: katieanna

ok, excuse my ignorance. The other judges were they state judges, is this an appeal? What is the flow chart? if anyone can make this clearer for me I would appreciate it and I hate to reveal my stupidity


99 posted on 12/13/2010 12:45:24 PM PST by mel (since progressive is code word for anti- i am a progressive progressive)
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To: Kartographer

The federal government can’t require you to buy a product (health insurance) from a private corporation (HMO)


100 posted on 12/13/2010 1:16:13 PM PST by jd777
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